Is it just me or can almost every platonic dialogue be summarized in a single sentence?

Is it just me or can almost every platonic dialogue be summarized in a single sentence?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every book every story... Actually anything can be summed up in one sentence if you want to reduce it to such. banal question OP.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No they can't, for example, the iliad has various topics serving different points, but platonic dialogue service the continual reinforcement of a single point repeatedly

      What was the point anon?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >various topics serving different points
        Can be said about the dialogues too, obviously. It all depends how far you want to categorise and generalize.

        Iliad: a story about the wrath of Achillies in avenging his best friend.

        Plato's Phaedo: the story of Socrates's execution.

        Then you can go on to further categorisations. Does the soul live on after death? How can one prepare one's self for death in this life? Etc. Just like for the Illiad.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Iliad: a story about the wrath of Achillies in avenging his best friend.

          >Plato's Phaedo: the story of Socrates's execution

          Both vague and non descriptive, the actual content of these stories could not be replaced with these summaries, meanwhile I could summarize First alcibiades in one sentence and nothing would get lost

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Iliad: a story about the wrath of Achillies in avenging his best friend.

          >Plato's Phaedo: the story of Socrates's execution

          Both vague and non descriptive, the actual content of these stories could not be replaced with these summaries, meanwhile I could summarize First alcibiades in one sentence and nothing would get lost

          Oh and before you waste time asking, here it is:
          >All knowledge is withheld in ones own intuition except the knowledge of intuition

    • 11 months ago
      Sage

      Yes, like this anon says .

      However you need to remember that those dialogues serve the purpose of boiling the idea down to that sentence.

      Also a thread died for this.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your banal one-liners fail to say anything original, I've addressed that anon already

        No they can't, for example, the iliad has various topics serving different points, but platonic dialogue service the continual reinforcement of a single point repeatedly
        [...]

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What was the point anon?

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    something a lot of people don't know is that Plato largely despised the written word and believed it would lead to the dumbing down of people, as opposed to dialogues which would require reason and understanding, this is also part of the reason why his works are dialogues and not essays

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah OP, how about you try out Republic or Parmenides you moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You get defensive and insult me because you know I'm right.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't answer question
        >"you're being defensive"
        Looks like someone hasn't read enough Plato

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you want to suck my wiener? Answer this question or youre dodging

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >OP once again thinking about sucking wiener
            Just according to keikaku

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't answer question

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            No u homosexual, you didn't answer first

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            For 50 bucks

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Oh and before you waste time asking, here it is:
        >All knowledge is withheld in ones own intuition except the knowledge of intuition

        No they can't, for example, the iliad has various topics serving different points, but platonic dialogue service the continual reinforcement of a single point repeatedly
        [...]

        Your comments reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of the platonic philosophical project. The very purpose of the dialogue format runs counter to what you are saying. Yes, perhaps in certain cases the end position of what a platonic dialogue arrives at can be summarized, but clearly there is value in seeing how common sense ideas are shot down/made invalid by investigation. All philosophical systems can be reduced to one or two general propositions which determine or delimit the rest, but Plato frequently has Socrates et al. look first at particular examples and abstract from them, forming clusters and crossing out cases that don’t fit. If you don’t see the point of any of this I’m not sure what to say.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >clearly there is value in seeing how common sense ideas are shot down/made invalid by investigation
          That's like having your mom reading gay fables to you to stop you from sniffing glue, like i get it, i have better shit to do, like sniffing more glue

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the ancient titles do that already.
    Symposium or on love
    Lysis or on friendship etc

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bro you can oversimplify anything into a sentence bro woaaaaa

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do it then: Plato and even Aristotle; if you can.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP's sexual orientation can be summarized in a single word.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny you say that considering you expect me to read this gay shit

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sssh anon I’m just giving you a hernia test by fondling your penis and pressing my hand to your lips. Relax.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    To some extent yes.
    But only because Platonic ideas have been so ingrained in our minds for the last 2300 years that we understand them almost instantly, not like the contemporaries of Plato.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you post a couple of these sentences?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here

      [...]
      Oh and before you waste time asking, here it is:
      >All knowledge is withheld in ones own intuition except the knowledge of intuition

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can summarize any book in a single character

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fellow librarian of babel

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