so do we definitively know how the frick they built this chonk? my liberal theatre major friend insists it's common knowledge how its built and is nothing more than western (read:white) supremecism which makes us disbelieve a colored race could have built such a marvel.
20 years (generally excepted figure) = 10 512 000 minutes
20 years / 3 (8 hour work day) = 3 504 000 (minutes)
3 504 000 / 590,712 = 5.9318 minutes per block
Also your ancient aliens didn't build so good. Why?
Because with all their advanced tech they still messed up their first pyramid.
See the second most ancient: The Bent Pyramid of Sneferu
It collapsed in on itself and the architect had to lower the angle.
The angle is 54 then 43 degrees.
Everything you think you know is WRONG.
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>8 hour workday
Try from sun up to sun down
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So therefore it takes longer per block.
It strengthens the argument.
3 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not argueing ancient aliens, I'm arguing geo-polymer concrete.
White Tura-limestone, of the best quality, was then used to cover the pyramid core made of less valued Giza-limestone. This external layer was later stolen to use in other buildings. The granite used in the great pyramid was transported over 500 miles to the construction site
Reminder you can transport both ways using the Nile:
Inland using the wind.
To the coast using the flow of the Nile.
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The quarry's for the construction projects of the Egyptians throughout history are well known.
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Yeah they used them for the foundation, but not the higher up blocks. That's completely implausible and we know they wrote the recipe for the cement down.
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The geopolymer needed compound as well.
One could barely transport a 3 tonne block down the nile when they tried, for a 22 tonne block, no way
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Lets just put this into perspective.
Khufu ship size: 43.4 meters (142 ft) long and 5.9 metres (19 ft) wide.
Where was it found? The foot of the Great Pyramid of pharaoh Khufu
Age: 4500 years
3 years ago
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As the documentary states, even if they could do a 60 tonnes block in that. There are other 'rocks' that dwarf these as well
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But ok man, you know what, my interest is peaked.
I'll check out the concrete theory.
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The smoking gun is the paleomagnetic investigation of Khufu and Kafre. If the blocks were chiselled, they would maintain their magnetic alignment from the quarry, and one would find blocks polarization in many different directions.
If they were set as concrete, however, they would take the magnetic alignment from the earths magnetosphere, facing all the same direction
As the documentary states, even if they could do a 60 tonnes block in that. There are other 'rocks' that dwarf these as well
Sold. I'll check it out.
How about this?
What if they used both methods?
Transportation and conventional construction and then also pouring of concrete.
Depending on the requirement and level of pristine-ness, symbolic significance and so on.
Also depending on the Dynasty.
As you are probably aware, Pyramid construction is one thing, but the temple complexes surrounding it were done at different times in history, rebuilt and so on.
3 years ago
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yes this makes sense.
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Concrete and machining to solar lenses?
You lost me.
No, but this is the best hypothesis that doesn't involve multidimensional atlantean ayy lmaos
This pic related for chemistry and utilization
If you think that's schizo, we've only just touched the suface of this rabbit hole
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>What if they used both methods?
Evidence is overwhelming that they did. Certain legacy egyptologists stick to the quarry only theory and block progress.
Back in the 80s there was a theory that they were made that way. There was even "evidence" of air bubbles in the stones. I don't know if that theory was ever disproven or maybe was never serious outside of popsci circles. I was also taught back then that the Pyramids were build by israeli slaves, which we now know is complete nonsense.
Needs more cranes. I don't know why archeologists deny the Egyptians such simple technology. Making wheelbarrows and such is something most agricultural societies figure out how to do so just to make agriculture more efficient. They probably had copper ball bearings too to assist with moving heavy blocks. Also IRL, the real limestone casing stones are several times larger than people.
>maybe because we have never discovered that shit smart guy >we
You've probably discovered nothing and I certainly have uncovered nothing. Maybe only a few people have actually discovered or uncovered anything.
Maybe no one discovered it because the Egyptians melt down their metal tools when the become old to reduce the need to buy more raw minerals and simple burn old organic tools when it becomes to old and loses its integrity because a rotting piece of wood or rope is still useful for heating an oven. What you see in the remains of old civilizations is usually a fraction of what once remained as good materials where always looted and reformed or used by their successors. That happened universally. What remains is either things that were deemed useless or unable to be retrieved and that didn't rot away.
Whether or not something exists does not require discovering something. Rather something like the pyramids, all the ornate statues, finely constructed pillars, etc. are evidence of a sophisticate technological culture that had things would have been considered essential for similar projects by future generations (i.e. cranes, pulleys, ball bearings, etc.) and the existence of such completed projects serves as evidence for those technologies.
If you don't pour concrete in one piece, you will inevitably have the cracks between the casts, and then add few thousand years and you have that mess from your picture.
That's' what's been sitting beneath the pyramids until something like the 18th or 19th century when a large earthquake loosened the casing stones enough that they could be quarried. What you're seeing there is what was never supposed to be seen. Just sandstone. Those blocks were quarried.
3 years ago
Anonymous
>Those blocks were quarried.
Is it somehow following from what you said before that? Because I'm not getting it.
no
why
so do we definitively know how the frick they built this chonk? my liberal theatre major friend insists it's common knowledge how its built and is nothing more than western (read:white) supremecism which makes us disbelieve a colored race could have built such a marvel.
No, but this is the best hypothesis that doesn't involve multidimensional atlantean ayy lmaos
>this is the best hypothesis that doesn't involve multidimensional atlantean ayy lmaos
Literally just a homie with some levers and wheels.
cool, so they could lift a block with some levers and wheels
Now, show me that at 3 blocks per minute
https://www.quora.com/How-many-blocks-make-up-the-Pyramid-of-Giza
590,712 blocks
20 years (generally excepted figure) = 10 512 000 minutes
20 years / 3 (8 hour work day) = 3 504 000 (minutes)
3 504 000 / 590,712 = 5.9318 minutes per block
Also your ancient aliens didn't build so good. Why?
Because with all their advanced tech they still messed up their first pyramid.
See the second most ancient: The Bent Pyramid of Sneferu
It collapsed in on itself and the architect had to lower the angle.
The angle is 54 then 43 degrees.
Everything you think you know is WRONG.
>8 hour workday
Try from sun up to sun down
So therefore it takes longer per block.
It strengthens the argument.
I'm not argueing ancient aliens, I'm arguing geo-polymer concrete.
This pic related
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2017/09/28/papyrus-reveals-from-where-the-rocks-used-to-build-the-great-pyramid-came-from/
White Tura-limestone, of the best quality, was then used to cover the pyramid core made of less valued Giza-limestone. This external layer was later stolen to use in other buildings. The granite used in the great pyramid was transported over 500 miles to the construction site
Reminder you can transport both ways using the Nile:
Inland using the wind.
To the coast using the flow of the Nile.
The quarry's for the construction projects of the Egyptians throughout history are well known.
Yeah they used them for the foundation, but not the higher up blocks. That's completely implausible and we know they wrote the recipe for the cement down.
The geopolymer needed compound as well.
One could barely transport a 3 tonne block down the nile when they tried, for a 22 tonne block, no way
Lets just put this into perspective.
Khufu ship size: 43.4 meters (142 ft) long and 5.9 metres (19 ft) wide.
Where was it found? The foot of the Great Pyramid of pharaoh Khufu
Age: 4500 years
As the documentary states, even if they could do a 60 tonnes block in that. There are other 'rocks' that dwarf these as well
But ok man, you know what, my interest is peaked.
I'll check out the concrete theory.
The smoking gun is the paleomagnetic investigation of Khufu and Kafre. If the blocks were chiselled, they would maintain their magnetic alignment from the quarry, and one would find blocks polarization in many different directions.
If they were set as concrete, however, they would take the magnetic alignment from the earths magnetosphere, facing all the same direction
The found the latter
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ibrahim-El-Hemaly-2/publication/258626055_Paleomagnetic_investigation_of_the_great_egyptian_pyramids/links/56bc3d7708ae47fa3956cd5e/Paleomagnetic-investigation-of-the-great-egyptian-pyramids.pdf
Sold. I'll check it out.
How about this?
What if they used both methods?
Transportation and conventional construction and then also pouring of concrete.
Depending on the requirement and level of pristine-ness, symbolic significance and so on.
Also depending on the Dynasty.
As you are probably aware, Pyramid construction is one thing, but the temple complexes surrounding it were done at different times in history, rebuilt and so on.
yes this makes sense.
Concrete and machining to solar lenses?
You lost me.
This pic related for chemistry and utilization
If you think that's schizo, we've only just touched the suface of this rabbit hole
>What if they used both methods?
Evidence is overwhelming that they did. Certain legacy egyptologists stick to the quarry only theory and block progress.
It's pretty sickening how come the superficial anti-Western education has become.
With ropes and pulleys.
And what? Cranes? Ramps? Each of those would have been more difficult to design and construct than the pyramids themselves.
Counterweight system proposed by Pierre Houdin.
they had massive, massive whips
Yes, very strong evidence for this. They even wrote a recipe for cement down. Look up Marc Davidowitz
This
Idiot
yes
I thought they were made of a geopolymer? Didn't some french guy build a test structure?
Yes
Back in the 80s there was a theory that they were made that way. There was even "evidence" of air bubbles in the stones. I don't know if that theory was ever disproven or maybe was never serious outside of popsci circles. I was also taught back then that the Pyramids were build by israeli slaves, which we now know is complete nonsense.
Just want to slide this thread in something called aegyptian faience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_faience
A sintered-quartz ceramic material from ancient egypt. Which was built from crusshed quartz or sand.
Crushing quartz, gentlement
There is no way they didn't know of piezoelectricity
Floated into place?
https://engineeringfeed.com/chris-masseys-theory-on-how-the-great-pyramid-of-khufu-was-built
Needs more cranes. I don't know why archeologists deny the Egyptians such simple technology. Making wheelbarrows and such is something most agricultural societies figure out how to do so just to make agriculture more efficient. They probably had copper ball bearings too to assist with moving heavy blocks. Also IRL, the real limestone casing stones are several times larger than people.
A video on the linked page shows them use what appear to be essentially hydraulics to lift the stones up into place.
maybe because we have never discovered that shit smart guy
>maybe because we have never discovered that shit smart guy
>we
You've probably discovered nothing and I certainly have uncovered nothing. Maybe only a few people have actually discovered or uncovered anything.
Maybe no one discovered it because the Egyptians melt down their metal tools when the become old to reduce the need to buy more raw minerals and simple burn old organic tools when it becomes to old and loses its integrity because a rotting piece of wood or rope is still useful for heating an oven. What you see in the remains of old civilizations is usually a fraction of what once remained as good materials where always looted and reformed or used by their successors. That happened universally. What remains is either things that were deemed useless or unable to be retrieved and that didn't rot away.
Whether or not something exists does not require discovering something. Rather something like the pyramids, all the ornate statues, finely constructed pillars, etc. are evidence of a sophisticate technological culture that had things would have been considered essential for similar projects by future generations (i.e. cranes, pulleys, ball bearings, etc.) and the existence of such completed projects serves as evidence for those technologies.
Reminder that the ScanPyramids Big Void exists.
I wonder if it's Khufu's true resting place, with the King's Chamber acting as a diversion?
Or maybe it's not a tomb and intended for some other religious purpose.
Tell me about coral castle, how didone guy alone build it?
Is the water pump theorist around or do I have to go to LULZ for an intelligent take?
Not only it is possible, it's definitely much more likely.
You can compare this to how well defined the joints in the pyramid stones are against how poorly defined the joints of the blocks in this experiment.
If you don't pour concrete in one piece, you will inevitably have the cracks between the casts, and then add few thousand years and you have that mess from your picture.
That's' what's been sitting beneath the pyramids until something like the 18th or 19th century when a large earthquake loosened the casing stones enough that they could be quarried. What you're seeing there is what was never supposed to be seen. Just sandstone. Those blocks were quarried.
>Those blocks were quarried.
Is it somehow following from what you said before that? Because I'm not getting it.
Watch the videos
Did they have machining?
I concede they very well could have.
Why?
Mankind has never totally stupid.
Concrete.
No.
The quarry's are known.
The Romans are the masters of concrete.