As far as sci-fi femoids go I only frick with Kavan and James Triptree Jr. The rest of the holes can eat shit and die especially that spook Octavia Butler.
Yes. It's up there with the work of Tolkien and Howard as a classic of the fantasy genre. Zoomers and manchildren on this board will talk about Eragon and the Name of the Wind and Harry Potter and yet they have never read Earthsea.
LeGuin was writing for elementary school aged children. The novel has its flaws, and I'll grant you that the structure and pace of the novel feels odd, but I don't agree it's too fast... the novel just goes off the rails and doesn't know what the frick it's doing in the second half.
it's too fast paced. It was even faster paced than Roger Zelazny's "Amber Chronicles". And that was super fast paced too. >but don't you the reader feel sad now that this love interest that you've gotten to know for the last 20 pages is now dead? You knew her for all of 20 pages but it feels like a lifetime, doesn't it?
that sorta thing. Call me old fashioned, but it takes more than 20 pages to get me to connect with a character.
Again, it's written for children. You're supposed to be about 11 or 12 years old when you read it. A child would be able to read a chapter or three in a sitting and feel challenged. Of course it's going to feel like "anime or cartoon" if you come to it from adult reading expectations or maximalist Tolkienesque fantasy books. But you might also be moronic, because most opinions I hear about Earthsea is that it's a meandering slog that doesn't fit their modern expectations of fantasy, not a fast paced page turner that is over too quick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i was reading Silmarillion at 11 or 12, so i guess i was just "ruined" in that way and expect better from other authors too. If i had read Le Guin at those ages maybe i'd have a better opinion of her works.
But, I dunno, because as i said, Harry Potter i like a lot, and that was written for kids, is a page turner, and yet is still better written than Earthsea.
I've also read (as an adult) other youth fantasy books, like Darkangel Trilogy, Greensky Trilogy, and those i liked and even though they were fast paced i still cared about the characters and events.
But not so with Earthsea. So you might be moronic for thinking what you think. Or maybe you just have horrible taste, and that happens, nothing you can do about that.
well hmmm... i dunno then. I guess it's just personal taste and there's no real argument against that which would work. Some people like a certain style of music, and others don't. Some people find a certain type of woman very attractive, others don't. Just personal taste. And the same with books i guess.
the first person i ever heard singing her praises was a right-wing type who didn't seem to notice any politics in her stuff, so i guess you haven't actually read her at all and just wanted to get in a owning the leftists post which makes sense for this board
I'm vaguely right-leaning myself and I've still loved everything I've read of hers so far. I'd be really surprised if someone read The Word for World is Forest, or The Dispossessed, and missed the obviously left leaning sentiments. It's not like she's putting her message across in an overy subtle fashion.
i got tricked into buying it, tried reading the first book and made it about half way through.
Sure, it had magic and mystery in it, but the writing style itself was so fast paced and just reminded me of something like an anime or cartoon.
Which some people like, apparently. Though I don't. >okay now i'm over here and, there's a girl. Am i in love with her on the first page already? Oh shit wait, i'm almost halfway through the page now, i've mastered magic and my love interest is out of the picture now. >here comes the end of the page, i wonder what exciting new thing will happen next, oh shit i can't wait, Le Guin really knows how to keep people's attention!
But it had the opposite effect with me, i couldn't maintain interest in the characters at all because of how fast paced it was. Something sad would happen to the main character (the main wizard kid, whatever his name was now i don't even remember) and it didn't rock my world or anything. I didn't care one bit about anything that happened to him, good or bad. And that's very abnormal for me, because when i read other books i always start to care about the characters and their travails and triumphs.
I guess I'm on my own here. Read it recently and really enjoyed it. Prose reminded me of reading an ancient myth rather than a magic-filled YA adventure. Setting gave me comfy Wind Waker vibes. I enjoyed book 2 as well and plan to finish the series eventually.
which ancient myths are you talking about? Because i've read ancient myths too and Earthsea doesn't remind me of them in terms of style.
and are you a kid? (asking only because i feel like only kids enjoy this Earthsea, just as kids typically can enjoy video games better than adults)
I'm in my 30s with zero formal education. Been reading literature as a way to self educate while I work a trade. Mix in a genre fiction novel every so often to cleanse the palette. I will be honest with you, I haven't read many myths, but it just gave me that feeling. Also, with the video game thing, that's more from nostalgia when it came out. Stopped finding games fun a long time ago and got into reading. Sorry for the blog post but you asked.
so what other stuff have you read then, trying to gauge if you just have bad taste or you just haven't read anything better yet.
2 years ago
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Mainly working through Russians right now. Reading Anna Karenina. Finished War & Peace last year. I've read most of Dostoyevsky's major works. Read Wuthering Heights earlier this year too and was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Moby Dick, Blood Meridian. Most of the shit that gets memed to death here.
This book? It's fine. The whole series? Spectacular. Angry incels on this board will not like it because it's "feminist" (meaning it has strong female lead characters, not even really that feminist). I think the later books in the series are super unique, especially for fantasy, in terms of the themes, perspectives, slower pace, introspective style.
Yes. It's up there with the work of Tolkien and Howard as a classic of the fantasy genre. Zoomers and manchildren on this board will talk about Eragon and the Name of the Wind and Harry Potter and yet they have never read Earthsea.
The Earthsea books are great, top-comfy and full of soulful passages.
The amount of seething they trigger whenever they are mentioned on this board makes sense when you understand most posters here can't focus on anything other than chink cartoons or YA garbage whith swords and superpowers they consider ''''based'''''
>the only [anecdote] so I guess [non sequitur]
nobody cares, but you must be in super denial if you think her works aren't super political and that isn't the chief cause of her critical success like every other gilded age of sci-fi mediocrity
if you don't like that a book has progressive politics, maybe stop reading books in general and stick with fox news and /misc/. might be more within your lane
It's mediocre and so are all of her other works
people only praised her because they liked her politics
As far as sci-fi femoids go I only frick with Kavan and James Triptree Jr. The rest of the holes can eat shit and die especially that spook Octavia Butler.
Yes. It's up there with the work of Tolkien and Howard as a classic of the fantasy genre. Zoomers and manchildren on this board will talk about Eragon and the Name of the Wind and Harry Potter and yet they have never read Earthsea.
LeGuin was writing for elementary school aged children. The novel has its flaws, and I'll grant you that the structure and pace of the novel feels odd, but I don't agree it's too fast... the novel just goes off the rails and doesn't know what the frick it's doing in the second half.
>Tehanu is the real gem in the series.
kek
it's too fast paced. It was even faster paced than Roger Zelazny's "Amber Chronicles". And that was super fast paced too.
>but don't you the reader feel sad now that this love interest that you've gotten to know for the last 20 pages is now dead? You knew her for all of 20 pages but it feels like a lifetime, doesn't it?
that sorta thing. Call me old fashioned, but it takes more than 20 pages to get me to connect with a character.
Again, it's written for children. You're supposed to be about 11 or 12 years old when you read it. A child would be able to read a chapter or three in a sitting and feel challenged. Of course it's going to feel like "anime or cartoon" if you come to it from adult reading expectations or maximalist Tolkienesque fantasy books. But you might also be moronic, because most opinions I hear about Earthsea is that it's a meandering slog that doesn't fit their modern expectations of fantasy, not a fast paced page turner that is over too quick.
i was reading Silmarillion at 11 or 12, so i guess i was just "ruined" in that way and expect better from other authors too. If i had read Le Guin at those ages maybe i'd have a better opinion of her works.
But, I dunno, because as i said, Harry Potter i like a lot, and that was written for kids, is a page turner, and yet is still better written than Earthsea.
I've also read (as an adult) other youth fantasy books, like Darkangel Trilogy, Greensky Trilogy, and those i liked and even though they were fast paced i still cared about the characters and events.
But not so with Earthsea. So you might be moronic for thinking what you think. Or maybe you just have horrible taste, and that happens, nothing you can do about that.
well hmmm... i dunno then. I guess it's just personal taste and there's no real argument against that which would work. Some people like a certain style of music, and others don't. Some people find a certain type of woman very attractive, others don't. Just personal taste. And the same with books i guess.
the first person i ever heard singing her praises was a right-wing type who didn't seem to notice any politics in her stuff, so i guess you haven't actually read her at all and just wanted to get in a owning the leftists post which makes sense for this board
I'm vaguely right-leaning myself and I've still loved everything I've read of hers so far. I'd be really surprised if someone read The Word for World is Forest, or The Dispossessed, and missed the obviously left leaning sentiments. It's not like she's putting her message across in an overy subtle fashion.
i got tricked into buying it, tried reading the first book and made it about half way through.
Sure, it had magic and mystery in it, but the writing style itself was so fast paced and just reminded me of something like an anime or cartoon.
Which some people like, apparently. Though I don't.
>okay now i'm over here and, there's a girl. Am i in love with her on the first page already? Oh shit wait, i'm almost halfway through the page now, i've mastered magic and my love interest is out of the picture now.
>here comes the end of the page, i wonder what exciting new thing will happen next, oh shit i can't wait, Le Guin really knows how to keep people's attention!
But it had the opposite effect with me, i couldn't maintain interest in the characters at all because of how fast paced it was. Something sad would happen to the main character (the main wizard kid, whatever his name was now i don't even remember) and it didn't rock my world or anything. I didn't care one bit about anything that happened to him, good or bad. And that's very abnormal for me, because when i read other books i always start to care about the characters and their travails and triumphs.
I read it and remember literally nothing about it except that it was about a boy who's a wizard. Probably a wizard of Earthsea, if I had to guess.
I liked it mainly because it's a fantasy that uses it to tell a story of personal growth but
- it's aimed at younger people
- Le Guin herself is kind of cringe
Tehanu is the real gem in the series. So you can see this book as a stepping stone
I guess I'm on my own here. Read it recently and really enjoyed it. Prose reminded me of reading an ancient myth rather than a magic-filled YA adventure. Setting gave me comfy Wind Waker vibes. I enjoyed book 2 as well and plan to finish the series eventually.
which ancient myths are you talking about? Because i've read ancient myths too and Earthsea doesn't remind me of them in terms of style.
and are you a kid? (asking only because i feel like only kids enjoy this Earthsea, just as kids typically can enjoy video games better than adults)
I'm in my 30s with zero formal education. Been reading literature as a way to self educate while I work a trade. Mix in a genre fiction novel every so often to cleanse the palette. I will be honest with you, I haven't read many myths, but it just gave me that feeling. Also, with the video game thing, that's more from nostalgia when it came out. Stopped finding games fun a long time ago and got into reading. Sorry for the blog post but you asked.
no worries on the blogging.
so what other stuff have you read then, trying to gauge if you just have bad taste or you just haven't read anything better yet.
Mainly working through Russians right now. Reading Anna Karenina. Finished War & Peace last year. I've read most of Dostoyevsky's major works. Read Wuthering Heights earlier this year too and was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Moby Dick, Blood Meridian. Most of the shit that gets memed to death here.
Yeah it's pretty good. She wrote it before she had her religious 'awakening' and became a feminist.
No, but it's okay
This is wrong. It’s wonderful.
This book? It's fine. The whole series? Spectacular. Angry incels on this board will not like it because it's "feminist" (meaning it has strong female lead characters, not even really that feminist). I think the later books in the series are super unique, especially for fantasy, in terms of the themes, perspectives, slower pace, introspective style.
I don't read any books where people preemptively need to insult anyone who doesn't like them with the political smear du jour.
so you follow political memes to determine what you can and cannot read?
No, I'm evaluating the book based on the low character of those who like it.
>No
oh sorry I must've completely misread your post
see, the driving element behind the praise Le Guin recieves is her politics
that's the opposite of what that anon said
Yes. It's up there with the work of Tolkien and Howard as a classic of the fantasy genre. Zoomers and manchildren on this board will talk about Eragon and the Name of the Wind and Harry Potter and yet they have never read Earthsea.
I hated this book, literally reads like an Elder Scrolls walkthrough
lol, good analogy
Yes
It's not gonna reupholster your butthole but it's an enjoyable fantasy book
The Earthsea books are great, top-comfy and full of soulful passages.
The amount of seething they trigger whenever they are mentioned on this board makes sense when you understand most posters here can't focus on anything other than chink cartoons or YA garbage whith swords and superpowers they consider ''''based'''''
>YA garbage whith superpowers
so earthsea
>the only [anecdote] so I guess [non sequitur]
nobody cares, but you must be in super denial if you think her works aren't super political and that isn't the chief cause of her critical success like every other gilded age of sci-fi mediocrity
if you don't like that a book has progressive politics, maybe stop reading books in general and stick with fox news and /misc/. might be more within your lane
There's no lie in those words
the humanity......
Thanks for posting with a tripcode so you can be easily filtered. Bye.
Watch the kino, kawaii, cinematic masterpiece by the progeny of Hayao-sama, Goro-kun. Tales of Earthsea greatest anime ever!
this
they even fixed the biggest flaw from the book and made everyone white
I don't know, I only just started it. I thoroughly enjoyed Lathe of Heaven, so I'll withhold judgment until I've finished it.
Finished Lathe of Heaven a couple weeks ago. Great book. Hope to get to The Dispossessed soon. Read that before?