is it worth running a technology forum in 2024?
would you sanction all off-topic discussion?
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is it worth running a technology forum in 2024? would you sanction all off-topic discussion?
Technology sucks, you suck.
>reddit Black folk competing to be funny
>none of them are
nothing new here
I dunno, I thought it was kinda funny.
Moderator approved thread creation.
could AI run that?
what can't a subreddit offer?
I was just browsing an occult subreddit and the mod closed an interesting thread and deleted half the comments because "it triggered her (his) sexual trauma"
tbf this also happened in old style forums but something that guarantees free speech like 4chinz but with reddit / forum structure is just needed at this point
8ch tried a Reddit-style "federated" (aka fake federation) model. It was a disaster, so you're just wrong.
Reddit in general is a pretty terribly designed site. Upvotes are shit. No image reactions.
That's why Discord (even though its also shit for separate reasons) has taken off as a forum/wiki replacement.
discord is not a forum, it's a whatsapp group
the problem with 8ch was not the format, it was the userbase
Perhaps your problem with Reddit is also not the format, but the userbase?
possibly, although arguably it was an inevitable development of the need to keep the site safe for advertisers
arguably what makes IQfy great is that none of its owners ever tried to monetize it
same reason why interpals is the only good place to meet people, it's stuck in 2010
The former inevitably results in the latter
>is it worth running a technology forum in 2024?
I believe it's not worth it to run a forum about technology in the broader sense, because the discussion will always deteriorate into consumerism, economy, companies and flame wars. (exactly what happened on this board)
The only sane and constructive way to discuss technology is when it's related to a specific project or subculture and even then it's a fragile being that needs constant nurturing.
Build something.
/tech/ was actually not bad, better than IQfy for sure.
You can keep those topics separate and have sections for the other more valuable tech topics.
If you're the forum admin, I don't see why you wouldn't do that and just let your site deteriorate without doing anything.
i want to be able to say Black person
i've had this exact conversation with a CS friend irl
it is funny when you do it on the spot and are not expecting strangers giving you the thumbs up
No. You'd get Stack Overflow.
Try instead embracing silliness, memes, annoyeurs and provocateurs without losing too much focus or you'll end up with IQfy2
how can you as a site admin maintain focus? Isnt that the job of the community?
it's a devils bargain: allowing people to say the hecking n word gets rid of 90% of insufferable people
it also gets rid of any chance of ever turning a profit
i think it just replaces them with a new class of insufferable people
Not a tech forum thing per se, but to solve the off-topic problem, a possible solution could be to avoid dividing the site in isolated sections (like on imageboards, reddit, bbs style forums, etc) and use tags instead.
Imagine it like a big catalog where anything goes, and you have a UI element to filter which tags you want to see and which you want to avoid.
Admins can offer a wide selection of tags just like they offer boards here, and when you make a thread you pick which ones you want, almost as if you were posting the thread to multiple boards at the same time.
Some tags can be topics (like technology, cars, music, etc) and some can be attributes (like "political", "celebrities", "news", "humour", "serious", etc) you can really dial in the exact experience you want on the catalog.
Most threads, even on IQfy, could fit in more than one board, but the current segregation ensures that only one aspect of the topic gets discussed. For example an ereader thread is both IQfy and IQfy, so exposing the thread to both of those demographics ensures that both aspects of ereaders are discussed for maximum cross-pollination of knowledge (particularly useful for more ideologically driven ideas, which segregated bubbles tend to amplify because they don't get challenged by people not in the same echo chamber).
As long as there's a good selection of tags, nothing can ever be off-topic. Only mis-tagged, in which case an admin can fix the tags without the thread getting removed.
I could go on for days about the specifics of this idea and how I think it should be moderated (key part of its success).
The biggest issue would be to make it gain enough traction to make it useful. Much like the tag-based chans that have been tried, if there are only 10 people on the site at any given time, it becomes pretty much useless.
the reason this won't work for IQfy is because by merging boards you also merge users. And the average IQfyner (judging by posts/min) is a braindead gamer and poltard. Thus any boards that maintain their quality by having nothing to do with these 2 subjects will be ruined when these kinds of users decide to drag them in using tags.
IQfy's userbase is obviously beyond saving. I'm talking about a new website whose culture is shaped from the start by moderation banning shithead users who can't behave in a manner that's conducive to productive conversations.
Users should be allowed to say anything they want, with no opinion being "wrong", but they have to say it like a normal person, and not with a buzzword like cope and seethe.
If you're trolling or engaging in thread-ruining behaviors (like an inflammatory or unrelated picture), you get banned.
Really just the basics that we can all agree contribute to the site being unusable.
People on IQfy can just reset their ip and get immediately back to shitposting, which is why I think that user accounts are necessary for any moderation to have its intended effect.
The posts will all be anonymous unless you put something in the name field, like here, but in order to post you need to log in, and your posting privileges depend on your activity.
For example a new account can only post text, and after some time/activity they can post images, and after a while they can make threads, etc.
There can be other incentives like a lower cooldown, access to certain sections, etc.
Basically make it so people don't want to lose their progress and behave productively.
Maybe even make it invite-only, with invites being an unlockable privilege, so that once the account is lost it's harder to immediately get back to shitposting.
The website will actively remove from any board/tag (even the inherently juvenile ones like gaming and music) anyone whose presence is detrimental to the quality of the site, so the problem of undesirables getting in a "safe" thread won't be a problem.
>will be ruined when these kinds of users decide to drag them in using tags.
Mods can obviously remove inflammatory threads, and if a thread is worth keeping but it's tagged in a way that's clearly a troll attempt, mods can fix the tags.
>I'm talking about a new website whose culture is shaped from the start by moderation
Just go to reddit.
I obviously didn't say that I want any website that has any culture-shaping moderation, forcing any culture at all, with any set of other features.
I'm talking about this specific tag-based imageboard model, with much different moderation practices than Reddit, and most importantly a much different target culture.
This kind of post where you can't exactly tell if it's bait, a joke, or actual stupidity, is part of what I was talking about.
Why spend the time contributing actual thoughts to a discussion when over 90% of the time the only replies you're going to get are these demented one-liners?
my gripe with creating new sites is who would even join? people are overwhelmed with the bazillion xitter alternatives and discord servers. what can i offer them that they won't get elsewhere?
No but it's worth adding thread IDs on IQfy.
Sitewide IDs would be nice.
It's reasonable and too nice so we cannot have it.
>mfw hiro bought and operates this website at a substantial loss purely to frick with us for his sadistic enjoyment