Is Obsidian a fricking waste of time? I don't get why you need to make notes about everything when you could just make anki cards about what you need to learn and remember and review whenever the program tells you.
All these autists making enormous knowledge graphs they are not actually using seems like productivity porn to me.
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>obsidian
>anki decks
>org mode
Don't make me say it.
>Is Obsidian a fricking waste of time
Yeah it is a fricking waste of time. It is very good at making you feel productive though
no, it's just a regular waste of time
obsidian users don't do much fricking
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Download vim wiki instead
Obsidian is just a markdown editor with plugins, if you don't need graphs then just disable it.
pretty much this, I like to take notes in it, or to write my daily tasks in the morning with the calendar plugin
When you download obsidian you should disable all the plugins by default and then add the ones you need from there. It's a really nice markdown editor without all the frilly bullshit.
>not open source
dropped, nice larp with the official github org though
Computers just make it worse
>easily damaged and lost
>deteriorate over time
>hard to organize or make reminders
I just use it as an md editor with a nice image/video embed. No plugin or graph tism.
Helps do your job rather than be your job
> >easily damaged and lost
> >deteriorate over time
It's meant to be temporary, I start a new note with updates as I make progress.
> >hard to organize or make reminders
Not really I just leave important note next to my desk and look at it. Sometimes type it out and print that out so it's more organized.
I understand the appeal in this case and I also make small paper notes during work when it's a PITA to switch to my notes program.
Still, electronic notes are superior for long-term such as future ideas, learning, organizing and so on.
Oh for that I use a combination of emails to myself and bookmarks. No special software.
You sound like someone who would view pdf files in chrome.
Boomer Luke Smith alert.
this is unironically the best system in existence. it's powered productive and capable people since the dawn of writing, and will continue do so forever. there is some kind of hard to identify quality provided to writing a list and free-form drawing or annotating that typing up a list on a computer simply cannot replicate.
a temporary short list/scratchpad notebook and a longer-term long list notebook side by side will let you solve literally any challenge in life.
>pen
>paper
Do you really believe people use it for that?
Try to keep notes (documentation) on paper. It's stupid.
To take note for study or reminder, paper is valuable as any software. To create documentation for projects is better this kind of software than paper, NEET.
Hold on, let me copy this code and paste it into my paper notebook
Because Anki Cards don't do the same thing.
What I use it for.
> Pasting things so I don't have to google them again
> Making templates for shit
> Put questions, notes, things agreed for meetings
> Copying Jira tickets
> Make comparisons for products etc
> Explanations of concepts etc, either for me or to share
> General todos/notes/ideas
I type random words with vim into a file on my desktop and don't have those issues.
just use emacs + org-mode
org-mode would be fine if it didn't come with emacs
sync is pretty nice too
it's most likely a waste of time, not because there are no use cases for a more powerful "second brain" but because learning how to use it as intended requires hours and hours of tutorial videos
if you're just going to use it as a notes application then you might as well use any of the other dozen applications that are far simpler
but there are some interesting plug-ins, such as the one that makes flashcards inside Obsidian and sync's them to Anki.
but this also requires learning new syntax for making the cards, at which point you might as well just load up Anki and make them there
>requires hours and hours of tutorial videos
all you need is to know that [[name]] links to another file and you can copy paste images, then use the command bar or right click for anything else
Yeah I don't get these "second brain" methods at all. It's only worth if you don't have reference materials and you need to create your own (docs for your team or notes for your uni classes). Outside of that, I don't find a purpose for hoarding and curating infinite information just for the sake of it.
It puts all your materials in one place and lets you curate the stuff you actually need.
>Bookmarks
>Anki cards
>Reminders
>Any note app for quick notes
I don't see the need to create a hyper autistic vault of knowledge when you are not really going to use more than 5% of what you write there, that's all.
All of these things are worse than just saving it in obsidian.
Literally how? Bookmarks are more interactive than obsidian, anki cards serve a structured review purpose, reminders actively remind you of critical information and then, if you actually need to take descriptive notes, you can use whatever app, even obsidian if you like it. But using it as a second brain and bloating it with information you will never check again doesn't make sense. It only serves a purpose if other people are actively going to use and enrich it, like a wiki
>Bookmarks are more interactive than obsidian
I don't get it. Do you even know what obsidian is?
>anki cards serve a structured review purpose
Completely outside of the note taking / writing realm
>Reminders
This is just calendar apps. Obsidian has calendar stuff too. I personally just use israelitegle calendars.
>It only serves a purpose if other people are actively going to use and enrich it
I don't get it. Why would this be the case?
>Second brain
Why get caught up on buzzwords? My only gripe with obsidian is it's an electron app. It's still really comfy to write documentation for personal projects, diary entries / journaling, Todo lists / planing, information on whatever you're learning, bookmark directories, and so on. Markdown is just mega comfy, it is what it is.
What are you complaining about exactly?
It's easier to just put everything in obsidian, then when I want something I can just search the vault and backup one thing.
>hours and hours
Christ, you dont know how to use markdown? And it takes you /hours/ to learn? With guided tutorials???
Just use TiddlyWiki or Logseq
If you set it up properly to work for you its not much of a waste of time. It starts wasting time when you over do your notes and start tinkering with css and plugins, set up your vault to be like anki cards if you like them so much.
> I don't get why you need to make notes about everything
You dont, just do what you need and fill the blanks as you want as you would with anki cards
Also you can disable graph, it literally doesn't matter.
>the dimwit has nothing in his mind
>the topwit just uses his mind
It helps me recognize stuff for future revision without having to waste time searching and rereading the original source.
It's pretty good. I got all my stuff there and used Nextcloud to sync between PC, phone and tablet. The search function makes it so I find stuff really fast. Was pretty useful during my trip to Japan, where I input all info about hotels, events, prices, times, etc.
I tried all the FOSS alternatives but always had some problem, usually it's sync not working 2-way either with built in or Nextcloud.
Before I was using Markor on phone and tablet and just gedit on PC, but having the search function is pretty good.
I really don't get why people do this shit
If I wanted to play an autism simulator I would just play factorio or DF
The two people I know who do this are also the people who manage to talk the most and deliver the least. And break the most shit while they do it. Meanwhile there's a jr dev who knows barely anything and crushes tickets like a machine and a staff engineer with 3 kids who barely has time to do anything much less do obsidian autism but gets more done in 3 hours than the rest of them do in 3 days.
I don't *know* a thing about obsidian, but you're really better off:
>writing a list of all the garbage you install and all the trash settings you tinketroon on windows
>installing an rss reader (as a browser extension or an autostart program with notifications) to keep check of all updates for manually installed software
>keeping a roadmap as well as short overwiew of a structure for every single thing you write
>moving bookmarks and subscriptions offline with a parser script which'll send a link to the clupboard when you search for a pattern/regexp (you can give awful personal blog descriptions to each entry then, and it's fun)
>having a scheduled table or database to summarize the amount of space your installed bs takes on the disk
If Obsidian can do all of this, I may check it out.
There's no good offline bookmark manager solution in 2024 tho.
I use LogSeq for most of my college stuff and it's fairly useful, especially when it comes to writing a thesis
No more time intensive than just writing some basic notes
I understand its use for college, as many times I had to make my own notes from attending classes as the teacher notes were shit on purpose to make students attend classes. But apart from that, if you have good resources, there is no need to rewrite everything and create a bloated vault you will never actually use.
I tried and quit obsidian like 5 times before I started using it. It's like having a persona markdown wiki, it's really handy. I organize all my worklife with it. Used to use org-mode, but really missed proper image support and some other niceties that come with a full blown GUI.
>seems like productivity porn to me.
I use obsidian to save links of dicky artists so yeah is productivity porn in my case.
Write your notes directly into Anki cards. You can browse a deck of cards and use it as a reference or when you need to memorize things, you already have your cards prepared.
Tell me if there’s a better way.
linking notes to eachother is fricking archaic, the notes should be semantically clustered automatically. if I have a vault of 10,000 notes it is absurd to think that I should personally be remembering which of those 10,000 relate in anyway to what I am currently writing
and the zettelcasten cargo cult is absurd
>Motherfrickers on IQfy talking about obsidian
>Buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
>Motherfrickers on youtube talking about obsidian
>Buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
>Me using obsidian
>Lol, markdown is cool
Maybe the real pseuds were the friends we made along the way.
You have links, which you don't want to use, and then you have directory structure, and then you have a fuzzy find search. If that isn't enough for you, then the problem is you.
Obsidian has vim mode out of the box and defaults to a hybrid edit/view mode so you see how the markdown renders as you're editing the file.
I've never used any of the linking but I'm starting to get to the point where I'm not sure where to put stuff without repeating myself, so I may finally have to bite the bullet and learn that bullshit. It also might be time to learn tags.
>You have links, which you don't want to use, and then you have directory structure, and then you have a fuzzy find search. If that isn't enough for you, then the problem is you.
im discussing in my post what a truly next generation ideation platform would look like. im conceptualizing what a note taking software that actually lived up to the obsidian glazing would look like.
Just a reminder that IQfy is full of children that shouldn't be on this site and man children who have never had a "real job" in their life.
I don't use obsidian, I use telekasten.nvim but I used to even use One fricking Note in the past (or even before that write in engineering notebooks). It is important to take note sand listen - not like most people on IQfy would know as they've never had a professional career in their lives.
Agreed. I never took notes in uni but it's not possible to work without note taking. Especially when you don't have tickets and need to plan out all the work yourself.
Don't overcomplicate it though. I have a big note file as a stream of consciousness. Once a week I then put it into more formal notes. This way there's no friction to writing.
I guess it depends on how you use it. I use it to make study notes, seems to be a worthwhile app for that.
it's great for taking notes in markdown. It's also an all-in-one tool for todo lists, calendar, task board, etc. And some plugins can make it really useful for certain things like blogs.
All the mind map "second brain" graph shit is a waste of time unless you're writing a research paper or something like that, and even for that there are better tools
Every zettelkasten method I’ve ever used has made me stupider. The more connections I make, the more carelessly I put them down. It really is thrilling to gather knowledge like that—it’s pure dopamine—but then the sun goes down and I have fifty links to articles I promised myself I would write, and no more energy, no more thrill, only a hollow malaise and a low regret.
I kinda think the point of learning is NOT to hoard every piece of knowledge indiscriminately, but to synthesize, condense, and put things in order. Can’t you just write two pages explaining what you know?
Not to mention the original zettelkasten guy who inspired this shit just used index cards. A 3x5 piece of fricking paper clears all this tryhard midwit software.
>Can’t you just write two pages explaining what you know?
Yes, the creator of Zettelkasten do than in for 3x5 piece of paper and cardbox, Zettelkasten means cardbox in germany.
anything beyond a .txt file is massive overkill for note taking
basically true, but I also want a digital version of a huge pinboard with a bunch of schizo shit linked together with ropes and rubber bands. will the purple gem program do that?
Yes, Obsidian is a "fricking waste of time" if you are an idiot. All you need to do is write and use backlinks. I recommend Logseq instead of it if you're not doing long-form writing most of the time. It has more powerful queries and outlining is comfy.
>I recommend Logseq
Checked.
Is it not for me if it doesn't click instantly? It's starting to, when you create an actual page and you see all your journal links but man was it confusing to understand how to make it work when coming from Obsidian, for me at least, a brainlet.
only write down what you actually need to write down, then you will have your own minimalistic wiki with links. If you write down anything you can you are doing it wrong. An Obsidian vault with 20 notes is more than enough for most people. Only expand as needed. Just like code its still good to have it structured though.
Stupid homie, you just don't get it.
Remember when we used PEN and PAPERS to take NOTES and everything worked
Useless as frick to me. I started using when they released the canvas, but after some days I just went back using vscode on my computer and nano on my phone.
why the frick are there so many threads on IQfy about this random note taking program lately
what kind of psyop is this
i like obsidian
i take note in it
i use no linking or anything
the search works
Just use Anytype, it's FOSS and better in every way.
It's not FOSS, it has a proprietary license.
Knowledge graphs are a waste of time unless you're a researcher, or are writing a paper, or some shit like that.
I was gonna use this but instead ended up using Google Docs and really happy with it
I use GD for college, kitchen recipes, and may even use it for piano and other type of note taking
It's all I wanted really. I would have preferee something desktop I used to use Sublime or Notepad but they lacked all these "Document" features like text highlight titles etc.
I tried using OneNote but it's so so bloated and I hate the fact the sheet isn't fixed and you can zoom a lot or just move shit to the sides etc
I think I will use Obsidian for very personal note taking. Idk for now it's Google Docs
If anyone has any suggestions for a Desktop alternative that is equivalent to Google Docs I'm willing to listen
I was using Sublime but the lack of image support and no way to styling the text with pretty colors etc was a huge letdown for me. I would like something light like Sublime or Notepad but with those capabilities
onenote 2016 is superior to any other note taking system on the planet, to call it bloated is pure moronation.
it's however OLD, and unfortunately nothing better comes out, just one after another unusable trash
I hate the text box system and the fact you can zoom or there's like infinite scroll to the sides etc. it's not like a paper but a rather infinite canvas, I don't like it
obsidian's 'new' canvas is a pretty good replacement for onenote and now it's an open format as well
the worst thing about it is it moronic insistence of doing everything in the markup, so you have to store images separately, moronic as frick
I just use it as a normal notes program with my folder on dropbox, I don't know how to use the fancy features at all. but now I'm also full of junk notes on there that I never get rid of.
I like using vim with an .md viewer like okular
When i have it running, i cant use the windows key to open the start menu - it just doesnt respond.
For that reason, I'm out
Think of it like note taking with the power of copy/paste moron.
i use joplin with a folder marked 'inbox'. everything goes in there. then there's about 16 other folders that - at some point when they're fleshed out, complete, or whatever - i move things from 'inbox' into.
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selfhost a mediawiki instance theory
There are also personal wikis like Zim or Tiddlywiki
I tend to make "cookbook" style examples for things I learn, I don't write paragraphs unless it's necessary
You should try Logseq
i tried to use it to write my e-girl erotica novel
but found that markdown is shit and 99.5% of what i use it for i can do with word.
for everything else, there's notepad++
I did leetcode grinding with it. Great resource for that kind of stuff. Absolutely sucks for language learning though.
Why are people obsessed with jamming their brain full of useless trivia they don't need? And not only that but finding some metaprocess to optimize jamming their brain full of useless trivia and organizing this library of useless trivia. Do you imagine yourself trapped on some island and needing it to escape?
If something is relevant to what you do for a living then you should have absorbed the knowledge naturally through sheer exposure.
Trivia is fuel for smalltalk which is rather expected in polite society. Also, it is amazing what strange pieces of trivia that come in handy decades later.
your brain is jamming itself with information anyway, all you are doing is tailoring which information you're going to jam into there. because i'd rather act than get swept up in a current
I use it for university notes (computer science +geography) and honestly it's just a good file explorer with preview for markdown and pdf. linking notes/headers together I actually find useful occasionally, and codeblocks and latex built in helps.
for plugins, I use templater, editor syntax highlight, advance tables and omnisearch
I don't like the idea that obsidian needs to be an "everything app" with calendars, excalidraw, dataview etc.
try not to waste your time with anything other than the essentials.
Obsidian is extremely useful only if you use the dataview plugin. For studying philosophy for example, being able to search a list of files that include a specific term allows you to easily compare perspectives. You can further narrow your search by era or school if you have the yaml front matter.
>for school
Centralized place to put all notes and interconnect them for related classes and concepts. Connect them with whatever practice exams you’ve found for that professor. Great for classes that build on previous classes.
>for self growth
Write personal reviews and thoughts on books you’ve read, games you’ve played, thoughts you’ve had. Journaling can be fun.
>for work
Notes on current projects and processes. A centralized place to put information from the deluge of emails from internal or third parties.
>for publishing
The original use for zettle. Follow the trail of links and your thesis writes itself. Extremely useful for keeping track of case law threads and putting together appeals.
I have pocket notebooks that I eventually transfer captured notes from. I have some notebooks just for fun. I wish I had the time to deal with emacs. Obsidian is the closest thing we will get to something modern and not awful.
pen and paper Black person
i just use joplin for notes but i wish it had nested/tree style tags...
I'm gonna tell you a secret that you promise not to share. Get a fine point sharpie. Write on your hand. The control+s of hand-sharpie is spray rubbing alcohol on it then press into a piece of paper (you can also use your other arm as RAM)
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