Is the 'Harkness test' a sound philosophical position to take? Why or why not?
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Is the 'Harkness test' a sound philosophical position to take? Why or why not?
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> want to frick a fictional creature
> complain about bestiality
Choose one.
There are creatures IRL that pass the harkness test like dolpohins and killer whales because they're able to communicate in their own languages and have an intelligence that's basically comparable to humans but its still beastility.
Are dolphins really of comparable intelligence to humans? Then why are we the ones who've built a civilization and not them? Is it just for lack of opposable thumbs on their part?
Their intelligence is comparable to some humans we consider capable of consenting, not necessarily whites.
Elephants probably greater, but I wouldn’t recommend fricking one
>Then why are we the ones who've built a civilization and not them?
>Is it just for lack of opposable thumbs on their part?
Obviously moron
"onviously" lmao this dude never seen a chimp or a racoon
They have a nomadic lifestyle and a culture based on song and poem and oral history.
How sure are we that what dolphins have is actually language? And how?
A big problem with captive orcas is, surprisingly, Orca whales from different parts of the world have different dialects. They cannot talk to each other in the tanks, just as I'm guessing you couldn't speak coherently with a random plucked out of Korea and Swaziland. I suppose until and if we were ever able to coherently translate dolphin sounds into human meaning, that would be the barrier for language. I would guess we call it "language" because they all talk and make noises often, directly to one another or the group, and their sounds can be coherently understood by their group.
Wikipedia says that one of Swaziland's official languages is English, so if they're educated I probably could talk to them, but I get your point.
My dumbass thought it was one of those places either deep in the jungle or on the savannah where nomadic hunters are, I'm genuinely surprised English is an official language.
Like most countries in Africa have French or English as one of their official languages, because most of Africa was colonized by France or England.
They can't make fire underwater.
in the OP, at least, this is not a test for real animals but for ideas expressed in hentai.
notice that if the animals are drawn with human eyes he doesnt call it beastiality.
i think the artist would eventually be compelled to admit his "furry" pornography is morally reprehensible - just not as beastiality.
If it's not real it seems pretty morally neutral.
obviously its not the animals that are in danger
What do you mean?
What part of "fictional creature" isn't bold enough? Do we need to add it to the checklist?
Is fricking an elf, avatar, or orc bestiality?
No. Does anyone think that?
Idk, i'm on the fence.
Sounds degenerate
Seems legit.
no because jerking off to anything that isn't a human but with diferent colors is a way of hiding bestiality
a young teen meets those conditions and yet it is illegal to frick one
explain.
What are you implying?
Many states have 'Romeo and Juliet' laws where the age of consent is, say, 16 but 13 if within 3 years of age.
14 is youngest, within 2 years. Alabama. It is from 16 up to 24 most places.
Where is it 24?
A 16 y/o can date up to 24.
a young teen is not "of sexual maturity for its species"
By definition if they can reproduce they are.
Just because you can in principle get pregnant doesn't mean you're at an age where it's safe for you to.
How often is this relevant and why is it not applied to animals?
im going to respond to this post as if it were written by a sincere person who wants to be reconciled with the person he's questioning.
its relevant when a kid or her baby would die if she were to git pregnart.
its not applied to animals because morality is for people.
its also not applied to animals because theyre better fit to give birth at young ages.
pregnancy for humans is particularly threatening. walking upright has made it a problem, as have our big brains which require extensive development time, and our complex societies which take time to understand.
we build our environments on a scale that animals cant fathom and im not just talking about cities, but completely virtual ecosystems with virtual threats and pleasures. and im not talking about the internet. im talking about the scope and relevance of ideas themselves, which to us act like biological appendages.
if you tell me to take meds im going to assume you're just dumb.
None of this is relevant to how sexual maturity is defined, you simply went on an autistic tangent about ethics that doesn't matter.
its relevant to the last two posts in the chain which are all i read.
it is, basically any reputable dog breeder won't breed a b***h in her first heat
Shouldn't matter for interspecies romance anyway (unless hybrids might be born) and doesn't seem to matter for boys
What do you mean, doesn't seem to matter for boys?
Boys don't get pregnant you troon. There's no physical problem with them fricking early.
What about the question of, you know, mental maturity?
Why would that matter?
Why would mental maturity matter for who it's acceptable to have sex with and who would be traumatized? Gee, I wonder.
If it can bleed it technically CAN breed. Not right morally, but valid biologically.
most places outside the US the legal age is 16, and some go as young as 14
In Ohio it's 16 as well. Not a non-US thing exclusively. Not by a longshot.
Its technically 16 but if you're over 18 it's still statutory rape
Not that it matters for an incel pedo like you though
But seriously, what's wrong with burgers?
Most US states have close-in-age exemptions.
Virginia is for virgins.
>another quality thread IQfy
better than the same bait threads again and again
Yes. Most of the time people say bestiality is wrong because the animal isn't intelligent enough to properly consent to sexual activity.
For example fricking a dragon that is equally as intelligent or smarter than you and can communicate to you in your own language would be morally fine. I mean no one is getting hurt or forced in this situation.
Give me one good reason I shouldn't stick my dick in a giant sea anemone hungry for nutrients (and no I don't care what happens to me)
The fact that someone took the time to make this, let alone got themself into such a situation that they believed there was a need to create this, is deeply troubling.
Love from Kazakhstan.
my thoughts exactly
>"greater"
Wait a second, if a human has sex with a sexbot that had a recursive AI in it with an intellegence gap like pic related why is it okay for them to frick? Isn't there some sort of power dynamic going on here?
wouldn’t this apply to a child? It seems suspect.
>of sexual maturity for its species
Sexual maturity is like puberty anon.
Those aren't necessarily exactly the same thing.
In the context of the image sexual maturity is used in the biological sense. A sexual mature animal is not necessarily older or experienced or even fully mentally developed.