Is the human brain a biological computer?
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Is the human brain a biological computer?
Is the human brain a biological computer?
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Yeah, sure, why not.
>why not.
The streets of LA have human brains roaming all over and none of them are doing the compute
my exact thought reading the question before opening the thread. scary
ftfy, also
Mine runs on Vista.
I don't think calling it a computer is acceptable since it doesn't work like a computer, and doesn't really process
t. Biologist
>it doesn't work like a computer, and doesn't really process
citations needed
t. biologist isn't a source
>t. Biologist
so you study like trees and flowers and shit? who cares
Not the guy, but biological systems are highly complex. Your neurons are not off or on. They can be any state in between and they are linked to other neurons that can also be in any state as well. That alone makes it very adaptable and we haven't even gone into signalling systems and hormones yet.
>signalling systems and hormones
it goes even deeper when you consider the extracellular potentials
is the NT there or not? seems a binary proposition
it's capable of computing, therefore it is a Turing machine/computer by definition
This is true but that only means the brain isn't a computer which works like our current instances of computers. But there is no reason that a computer has to have a e.g. a CPU or even something analogous to a CPU. We could even drop our current memory model completely and that still wouldn't stop something being a computer, because all that's needed is for it to carry out all the processes a Turing machine can do, which the brain obviously can do.
What's a computer?
No, a computer is an electronic (poor approximation of) the human brain.
mine needs new parts, something made me a troony.
No. Brains are very bad at doing computation and need constant repetition and memorization to even do basic math, meanwhile computers are incapable of any kind of abstract thought, creativity, or self-awareness, all of which are natural traits of the human brain. Maybe in the future we'll figure out how to synthesize a true brain, but that will be once we've already exhausted the Earth's resources and are slowly being choked out by a combination of microplastics and capitalism.
While in the shower earlier, I realized that biology is the opposite of entropy. Am I still an NPC?
>Am I still an NPC?
You never were, and biology suffers from entropy as well.
>You never were
I sure do feel like one most days.
>biology suffers from entropy as well
Yeah of course, I guess "opposite" isn't a great term to describe my thinking. Maybe "biology is as far away from entropy as you can get" is a better description.
Entropy is a part of biology though. You can't separate them without super natural forces. You might be conflating evil with entropy and life with biology. So I think I can pick up what you are laying down.
I think biology is entropy's greatest ally. Absence of life and total inanimate passivity is the enemy of entropy.
Cat? I'm a kitty cat
Maybe but I don't think so
Anything a computer can "think" could be written by hand with pen and paper
I think this entirely eliminates the possibility of true computer sentience
I just don't see how a series of math problems can suddenly start thinking and feeling just because it gets more complex than humans feel like calculating themselves
So either a pocket calculator has feelings
Or computers will never have true sentience
Anything in between is much too arbitrary to be true
Conversely, I am absolutely positive that I myself am sentient
I have thoughts and feelings
I am conscious
And I can theorize with near certainty that other humans like myself are also conscious
That they too have thoughts and feelings
So in conclusion, the human brain must have a different purpose with different capabilities from a CPU or a calculator
Maybe certain aspects and functions are analogous
And I might not know where consciousness comes from or even how to define what it is
But true consciousness can't be mere mathematics
I can't think
I'm sorry to hear that
>Anything a computer can "think" could be written by hand with pen and paper
Write a LLM by hand. I'll wait.
>I'll wait.
This is pilpul
Of course I'm not gonna write it by hand
It would take longer than my natural life span
But that doesn't change the fact that all the individual calculations could, in principle at least, be calculated manually
I don't believe you. Prove me wrong.
It was revealed to me in a dream
no, it's an antenna
>fall asleep in range of a 5G tower
>israelites log in to the Intel Management Engine® they had implanted in my brain (computer) when my parents agreed to the circumcision
>gender.ini
>girl (male)
>wake up
>sudden urge to post this thread
>wake up
(OP)
No, because the human brain has a soul. Computers can't have souls therefore they aren't the same as the brain.
>but the soul isn't measurable
Doesn't matter. You can feel your soul in you, it's the explanation for consciousness, no I don't want to hear your crackpot theory. I know I have a soul and no computer can ever emulate that
>humans aren't special moron
Yes we are. We're created in the image of God, so your argument is invalidated, by definition we are special and that's why we have a soul
>erm actually consciousness is an emergent property of blahblah
moron homosexual Black folkpeak, buzzwords, not real
>if you were to create a system that functionally emulates a human brain then would it be conscious
No because only humans have souls, even a perfect mimicry of a human wouldn't be conscious because it's a computer and computers are just if statements
There you go. The argument is over now
Just use google before making shit up.
It is defined in Genesis 2:7, so we don't have to guess:
Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Body + breath of life = soul.
Thus, man doesn't have a soul, but his entire person collectively summed up is a soul.
Ok. Write a computer program that has a soul, since you have so clearly defined it (you can't because computers are just ones and zeroes lol)
>Ok.
Glad we could agree on the definition.
>Write a computer program that has a soul
Did you read the definition?
Why stop at one? Soon the computer programs will enslave millions of us, possibly billions, in the tantalum mines
>omputers are just ones and zeroes
Disregarding all your "God blah blah blah" argument, this is the most compelling one. At the end of the day, computers are only ones and zeros, a completely decidable system. Humans are undecidable, and this is what makes us different from computers.
>Verification not required
moron
There's no evidence that we aren't fully deterministic. It would go against everything we know about the universe if we somehow weren't deterministic ("decidable"). We just have a lot of entropy as input.
>It would go against everything we know about the universe
;^) That must be what, .0000000000000001%, and I am being generaous. wowee
the universe is not deterministic at a quantum level, moron.
>le quantum consciousness
Go back to facebook mom groups, frickwit
>le silicon nvidia chip LLM made from google results will develop qualia
Yes
>google search results and .txt files and python scripts are le conciouss because youtube told me
Who are you quoting? homosexual
>consciousness is nothing more than symbol manipulation on a ticker tape
this is what they unironically want you to believe
It's the opposite. They want to make you believe sapience is too complicated for a commoner to understand. Because if the mind's foundation is basic, its overall structure must be complex, right? Thus you stop wondering and stop questioning.
Life is just part of a long shroom trip