Is the science being screwed by big meat?

We hear for absolute decades that meat is bad for you and it causes cancer. Suddenly there's some mega studies (I believe in Europe specifically) now no one is sure whether meat is actually bad for you. Could it be that big meat (key players in the meat industry in some sort of financial alliance) is bribing scientists to cherry pick data?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Science? Look at the health of people who ate x and Y and Z and a and b and c amount of meat over the past 100, 200, 50 years, factoring in genetics and environment and lifestyle and activity levels

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why would meat be bad for us?

    How moronic can you be?

    Why do you think you have a gall bladder you moron

    meat is the most easily digested, nutrient dense food there is.. I wont get in to the science, because it should be common sense

    >the only food that could feed the human population for thousands of years
    >year round availability
    >bad for us

    the issue isnt meat, its the way the meat is made through atrocious farming practices, and the same goes for vegetables/fruit btw.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >meat is the most easily digested, nutrient dense food there is..
      You don't need to be a scientist or began to know this is bullshit. There's almost nothing as heavy on the stomach as a meal consisting mainly of meat.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's true, cooked meat mogs all other foods in terms of nutrient and easily accessible enrgy. Hell the plant nutrients you need are concentrated in the herbivores that eat them, the only downside is people stopped eating organ meats and basically just eat muscle now which doesn't grant you all the benefits.
        Grains and vegetables are literally all toxic at low levels to discourage consumption. Most animals like cooked meat better than raw and even some herbivores will go for it because it's so damn easy to process.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cooked meat is surely easier to process than raw meat. But after eating a Haxn for dinner I have a much harder time sleeping than after eating stir-fried vegetables.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          in actuality almost all herbivores will happily add meat to their diet, if it's convenient

          there are a few exceptions to this, but obligate herbivores are very rare

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Factory farms produce subpar meat; you can only trust the meat if you kill it yourself

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      even then, most game animals are hunted near agricultural land, meaning they're loaded with monsanto poison. Farmers get way more cancer than city people.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When you consider the fact that fish is the only meat that we can eat raw, it looks to me that aquatic ape theory is correct and we're supposed to live off of fish/fruit/nuts.

    I'm not gonna stop eating other meat, but it seems logical to me that meat which we can't eat raw probably isn't great for us even when cooked.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, beef and pork are also mostly fine eating raw

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the natives ate bison raw
      then turned the rest into pemmican and pansawan

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      we eat beef raw too

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hmmm... Could it actually be that the stuff humanity has been living off of for the entirety of its existence is actually fine? Could it be that nutrition "science" is a Dunning-Kruger field?Could it be that your GMO veggies and heavily processed grain-based, sugar-laden corporate slop is giving you cancer?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >potato brains arguing that just because it doesn't kill you before you reproduce that must mean it isn't harmful for you whatsoever

    No humans are evolved to eat meat in the quantities western societies do

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Take your medications please.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >No humans evolved.
      FTFY

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There are decades of research on this and we understand the causal mechanism by which meat causes cardiovascular disease and cancer. The scales are not gonna tip in the other direction that easily.

    I believe this has a lot to do with all the modern dietary trends such as keto, low-carb, paleo, etc. and it feels more like a knee-jerk reaction to the overall overconsumption of processed foods, sneed oils, sugar etc.

    Nothing is good in excess, obviously.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The science is settled, they have now found the healthiest food.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/jWfpU_h-gvg?feature=share

    So no more meat conspiracie theories, just trust the science.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      didn't they confirm that bugs and chicken are environmentally identical

      why are bugs still being talked about

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Animal cruelty.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        anybody can grow chickens, but insect paste will be bought from some multinational owned by Bill Gates

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >bugs and chicken are environmentally identical
        Maybe at a resource consumption level. However you will never stop hearing about insects specifically because they can be fed waste food, leftovers and stuff. Once you factor that in the environmental impact is positive because itll save resources necessary to farm more food.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          still don't see the difference to a chicken

          have you ever seen the shit farm animals are fed?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Ever heard of bird flu? The more different two species are, the less like is the spread of diseases between them. Ideally we wouldn't eat any mammals, look what eating mammals has brought us, foot-and-mouth disease, bse, swine flu, sars, mers, covid, ebola, aids, ...
            Birds are better than mammals, but if you don't want to switch to plants, invertebrates are the best to prevent further zoonoses.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sure, but i don't think it alone would make it worth it next to the damage trying to completely upend human culinary culture would cause, especially when just limiting ourselves to less impactful forms of meat would have the same environmental impact and a much smaller social detriment

            face it, the bug eating thing is a meme

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I think consumption of any cellular matter is an atrocity and that not consuming any cellular matter is an insult to lord satan because not doing so makes you fail your requirement, to him, to commit as many atrocities as you can. It is sacrilege to not consume a live calf and baby before 6pm every night.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Live! Die! Suffer! It is your birthright.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't mean that we have to stop farming the last chicken. But arguably, most of American food has little to do with meat anyway. Who cares if chicken nuggets are made of chicken, plant-based protein, bugs or sawdust (which I wouldn't be surprised if it's already in there). It's always about reduction, never about abolishment.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >america
            actually you're right, you guys should just eat bugs, they're good for you

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Is the science being screwed by big meat?
    You bet it's being screwed by big juicy meat.
    Yeah boy.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no
    https://www.carnivoreisvegan.com/hong-kong-long-life-eat-meat/

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