>a risk that arises from the dissemination of (true) information that may cause harm or enable some agent to cause harm >believe
That's like every state secret ever. How would you even go about denying such a concept?
Like imagine a besieged castle having an unknown entrance. Finding it is an infohazard.
An infohazard is more like knowing about Roko’s basilisk rather than knowing a weakness in a government defense. It’s just the knowing by itself that’s a hazard and not being able to take some piece of information which you can use to your benefit.
I think its more accurate to say that large amounts of knowledge are hidden behind paywalls essentially, not forbidden just inaccessible for the majority of people. Universities are not created equal and the best ones are harder to get into/more expensive. You can read the same books as a college course but its a lot harder to know which texts to read, which are outdated, and which are not from people that have any business pretending to be experts.
If you're talking about nuclear bombs, information on how they work is actually fairly public knowledge. In fact I believe the DoE has published several articles on the subject if you care to look yourself. The issue in this case isn't knowledge, but rather sourcing nuclear material.
He doesn't need to be talking about it. High grade militay equipment fits nicely, you are not getting anywhere the tech behind any modern american jet used by the military.
No some of it is just forbidden knowledge tossed aside because its of no use to certain interests groups or the powers that be. Until another civilization picks it up and dissects it and uses it.
Yes. Dating statistics, racial crime statistics, intelligence test results, divorce rates, hypergamy, male virginity rates, discrimination against the autistic, genetic determinism, catfish experiments, atomic blackpill. This information while factual needs to be hidden because it can incite and radicalize people.
Knowledge that goes against the doctrines and ethos of the state/state religion are suppressed and persecuted
For example, in Islamic countries, facts that dismantle the foundations of Islam (particularly things that paint muhammad in an unflattering light) are forbidden and are considered blasphemy and anyone who teaches them are put to death
>“The fact is that the enormous majority of people do not want any knowledge whatever; they refuse their share of it and do not even take the ration allotted to them, in the general distribution, for the purposes of life. This is particularly evident in times of mass madness such as wars, revolutions, and so on, when men suddenly seem to lose even the small amount of common sense they had and turn into complete automatons, giving themselves over to wholesale destruction in vast numbers, in other words, even losing the instinct of self-preservation. Owing to this, enormous quantities of knowledge remain, so to speak, unclaimed and can be distributed among those who realize its value. “There is nothing unjust in this, because those who receive knowledge take nothing that belongs to others, deprive others of nothing; they take only what others have rejected as useless and what would in any case be lost if they did not take it. “The collecting of knowledge by some depends upon the rejection of knowledge by others.
>“There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn, necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.
>“There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn, necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.
>“There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn, necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.
Gurdjieff
Isn’t this the guy who was afraid of vacuum cleaners?
It's impressive how few people even know what knowledge is forbidden, rather than just difficult to find. There's not a single example of forbidden knowledge in this thread.
I've got a couple. Forbidden knowledge is by definition outside the overton window though, which means that normies struggle to even comprehend that it exists.
AND I’M SURE YOU HAVE AN ACUTAL EXAMPLE READY TO GO, RIGHT homosexual?
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Yeah, but I'll give you some time to try to think outside the box.
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JUST
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Here's a hint: forbidden knowledge won't just be gated behind a specific job or be public but obfuscated. It will be illegal or social suicide to gain the knowledge under all circumstances. For example, something like "what it feels like to kill a man" almost fits the bill, but there's situations like self-defense where its legal and even socially acceptable to kill someone.
So what you're looking for are laws or social proscriptions/taboos that are so powerful and obvious that you can't imagine anyone unironically arguing against them, and also apply categorically without any "loopholes" (like the aforementioned self-defense). So once you think of one of those, consider what knowledge one might gain from breaking the law or taboo.
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Summary: Charlatan
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Did you find a flaw in my logic or are you implying that forbidden knowledge doesn't exist?
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JUST
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THOUGHT
Summary: Charlatan
Here, I'll give you a relatively harmless example of forbidden knowledge: What does kitten meat taste like?
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You can google that. Does something so available strike you as forbidden?
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Anonymous
I would dispute that you can learn what a food tastes like from being told, but it doesn't really matter. Go ahead and come up with one of your own and I'll share some more of mine.
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Cat tastes like fish
https://www.vietnamcoracle.com/cat-meat/#
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The fish reference is in regards to the texture, not the taste. What he has to say about the taste is this: >The fat, however, was very peculiar and best avoided. It’s difficult to say why, but I suspect that the fat tastes strange because the flavour is so apparently unfamiliar that it’s disconcerting – although you know you’re eating something new and different, the moment you can’t link the taste with something more familiar, it scares your palate.
It comes across almost lovecraftian. Anyway, I think it's obvious that's forbidden in one culture isn't forbidden in another, and I can't imagine anything that's universally forbidden by all cultures in all eras (although that doesn't necessarily mean such a thing doesn't exist), so obviously it's possible to go someplace else to gain forbidden knowledge.
Depends on wwhether or not you believe in the concept of infohazards
>a risk that arises from the dissemination of (true) information that may cause harm or enable some agent to cause harm
>believe
That's like every state secret ever. How would you even go about denying such a concept?
Like imagine a besieged castle having an unknown entrance. Finding it is an infohazard.
An infohazard is more like knowing about Roko’s basilisk rather than knowing a weakness in a government defense. It’s just the knowing by itself that’s a hazard and not being able to take some piece of information which you can use to your benefit.
I think its more accurate to say that large amounts of knowledge are hidden behind paywalls essentially, not forbidden just inaccessible for the majority of people. Universities are not created equal and the best ones are harder to get into/more expensive. You can read the same books as a college course but its a lot harder to know which texts to read, which are outdated, and which are not from people that have any business pretending to be experts.
Yes. Theres a reason why redaction exists.
technically yes in that the knowledge of how to make certain weapons is heavily classified
If you're talking about nuclear bombs, information on how they work is actually fairly public knowledge. In fact I believe the DoE has published several articles on the subject if you care to look yourself. The issue in this case isn't knowledge, but rather sourcing nuclear material.
He doesn't need to be talking about it. High grade militay equipment fits nicely, you are not getting anywhere the tech behind any modern american jet used by the military.
Yes, esotericism, parapsychology, ufology.
None of that is forbidden, just false
No some of it is just forbidden knowledge tossed aside because its of no use to certain interests groups or the powers that be. Until another civilization picks it up and dissects it and uses it.
Yes. Dating statistics, racial crime statistics, intelligence test results, divorce rates, hypergamy, male virginity rates, discrimination against the autistic, genetic determinism, catfish experiments, atomic blackpill. This information while factual needs to be hidden because it can incite and radicalize people.
You can easily look those up right now if you wanted to, doesn’t seem very forbidden.
Knowledge that goes against the doctrines and ethos of the state/state religion are suppressed and persecuted
For example, in Islamic countries, facts that dismantle the foundations of Islam (particularly things that paint muhammad in an unflattering light) are forbidden and are considered blasphemy and anyone who teaches them are put to death
>“The fact is that the enormous majority of people do not want any knowledge whatever; they refuse their share of it and do not even take the ration allotted to them, in the general distribution, for the purposes of life. This is particularly evident in times of mass madness such as wars, revolutions, and so on, when men suddenly seem to lose even the small amount of common sense they had and turn into complete automatons, giving themselves over to wholesale destruction in vast numbers, in other words, even losing the instinct of self-preservation. Owing to this, enormous quantities of knowledge remain, so to speak, unclaimed and can be distributed among those who realize its value. “There is nothing unjust in this, because those who receive knowledge take nothing that belongs to others, deprive others of nothing; they take only what others have rejected as useless and what would in any case be lost if they did not take it. “The collecting of knowledge by some depends upon the rejection of knowledge by others.
>“There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn, necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.
Gurdjieff
Wrong pic
Madness seems quite fun
Isn’t this the guy who was afraid of vacuum cleaners?
No, he was afraid of Irish maids, which were the vacuum cleaners of his day.
Two words: Etymology.
The last place you’ll find that sort of stuff is on a public forum
Racial crime statistics
Racial IQ gap
Racial differences in brain mass
What is a woman
You can google all of those right now
It's impressive how few people even know what knowledge is forbidden, rather than just difficult to find. There's not a single example of forbidden knowledge in this thread.
And I’m sure you have an example of actual forbidden knowledge ready to go, right homosexual?
I've got a couple. Forbidden knowledge is by definition outside the overton window though, which means that normies struggle to even comprehend that it exists.
AND I’M SURE YOU HAVE AN ACUTAL EXAMPLE READY TO GO, RIGHT homosexual?
Yeah, but I'll give you some time to try to think outside the box.
JUST
AS
I
THOUGHT
Here's a hint: forbidden knowledge won't just be gated behind a specific job or be public but obfuscated. It will be illegal or social suicide to gain the knowledge under all circumstances. For example, something like "what it feels like to kill a man" almost fits the bill, but there's situations like self-defense where its legal and even socially acceptable to kill someone.
So what you're looking for are laws or social proscriptions/taboos that are so powerful and obvious that you can't imagine anyone unironically arguing against them, and also apply categorically without any "loopholes" (like the aforementioned self-defense). So once you think of one of those, consider what knowledge one might gain from breaking the law or taboo.
Summary: Charlatan
Did you find a flaw in my logic or are you implying that forbidden knowledge doesn't exist?
Here, I'll give you a relatively harmless example of forbidden knowledge: What does kitten meat taste like?
You can google that. Does something so available strike you as forbidden?
I would dispute that you can learn what a food tastes like from being told, but it doesn't really matter. Go ahead and come up with one of your own and I'll share some more of mine.
Cat tastes like fish
https://www.vietnamcoracle.com/cat-meat/#
The fish reference is in regards to the texture, not the taste. What he has to say about the taste is this:
>The fat, however, was very peculiar and best avoided. It’s difficult to say why, but I suspect that the fat tastes strange because the flavour is so apparently unfamiliar that it’s disconcerting – although you know you’re eating something new and different, the moment you can’t link the taste with something more familiar, it scares your palate.
It comes across almost lovecraftian. Anyway, I think it's obvious that's forbidden in one culture isn't forbidden in another, and I can't imagine anything that's universally forbidden by all cultures in all eras (although that doesn't necessarily mean such a thing doesn't exist), so obviously it's possible to go someplace else to gain forbidden knowledge.
Symbolism is a form of encryption
Encryption is just esoteric symbolism
>just esoteric symbolism
That's way more moronic than what I said
i could tell you but then i would have to kill you...
It’s called state secrets
Anything that can be construed as antisemitism
Jew