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Is spyware really built into hardware now? Is there really no escape anymore?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There never was escape since computers are just another cell in the prison.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy Chinese hardware if you want to be free from western spyware.

    Buy American hardware if you want to be free from Chinese spyware.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically. You cant escape Anon. Welcome to hell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is my Beelink taking photos of my meat and sending them to the CCP?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Intel shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AMD actually, the only Intel ones Amazon was selling at the time were shitty little N100's

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what about intel BLACK editions?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now

    lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >now
      Anon, I...

      Do you have proof of any of that?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Linus Torvalds was approached by the NSA to add a backdoor to Linux, obviously he refused. Now, given that we know that, do you honestly think companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple would also refuse to do it? Bearing in mind that the Pentagon's cloud service contracts alone are worth about $9 billion, and if you refuse to play ball, you ain't getting in on that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only source for this was a comment made by Linus that as obviously a joke and he later said it was a joke.

          Of course some have taken it to mean that the joke was his way to tell.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would they bother asking him to do it when they could just submit a pull request with a cleverly hidden backdoor themselves?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Linux employees are smarter than you think.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Backdoor have been discovered in linux before

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf so even linux is compromised? This is fricked up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lurk moar

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now
    Anon, I...

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    few years ago some Chinese spies tried to implant hardware backdoors on GPUs going into Amazon and Apple facilities.
    Everything went under the radar because nobody wanted international war and sanctions, but yea most likely high profiled people are targeted while it's quite cheap to do it mass scale

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-one-tiny-chinese-chip-was-used-to-infiltrate-apple-amazon-us-contractors-report/

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On top of the Windows backdoors and zero day exploits they leave unpatched for the government, you have the hardware backdoors like IME and AMD Secure Technology (formally called Platform Security Processor). On top of that the UEFI bioses can easily contain backdoors and exploits, and then you have all the other chips in your PC that could potentially have a backdoor.

    There's backdoors on backdoors on backdoors on backdoors.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's further backdoors beneath IME and shit too. If you live in a western country and use hardware made by western companies it's backdoors and the NSA/FBI/CIA has all your shit

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just unplug the Ethernet cable

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also all NIST crypto is backdoored

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Might anyone happen to know which board the screencap is from?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /v/

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Microsoft operates the same way as Adobe/Autodesk, they create proprietary shitware with a brief shelflife meant to instill the need for subscription software. AI is gonna be shat up by Microsoft/NAI and Fortune 500 competitors all trying to become the Adobe/Autodesk of AI services. Corporations high on the layoff-automate pipeline are going to pay more in the future for their shortsightedness.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a super tech bro, but I recall somebody doing experiments on chips and discovering that secret undocumented instructions existed.

    Also on /misc/ there was a leaker years ago who claimed to work for Intel and said that Intel had been building backdoors physically into their CPU's for the NSA for many years.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >secret undocumented instructions
      https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/6yk10g/hundreds_of_undocumented_32bit_cpu_instructions/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is this not just the same as illegal opcodes?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          probably.
          intel x86 instruction encoding is fricking insane so you're bound to find some combo of invalid shit that will do "something."

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, that's just a misunderstanding of hidden management layers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's only true if you're targeted by TAO or another state actor. Everything else is schizo speculation

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just setup a strong firewall.
    You want your computer hardware to be sourced from one provider. And your firewall hardware to be sourced from a direct concurrent.
    They will cancel one another's effort at spying on you.
    That's how small armies do it.

    They don't bother disabling telemetry on Windows anymore, for example. They just block it at the firewall level.
    They have one antivirus/antimalware from editor A on their workstation, and another anitmalware from editor B on their server.
    If one editor fail, the other won't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Source?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processor
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

    >"They (the NSA) can use the system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer."
    —Edward Snowden

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have they ever done it publicly?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If they truly do have that capability, they've probably used it against high profile targets and at least blackmailed a few lower profile ones. They probably feel that presently the outrage would be inconvenient if they started blatantly attacking everyone over their private communications, but over time the culture of desiring privacy has been eroded and with the age of AI nearly upon us, we could see this system being sold as a "private" way to monitor everyone because no human looks at the contents, it's all a machine watching you and flagging "criminals and undesirables."

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean they don't even hide it anymore, it's "for security" sweetie.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ms is evil
    >water is wet

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AIr GAP your computer. After you install your softawre, ripo out the wifi and ethernet

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now
    sup, slowpoke?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is spyware really built into hardware now?
    No. there are neither verifiable proofs for that nor any evidence that something like this was ever used to target some individuals. Pic related is blackpilled, tech-illiterate /misc/ manlet who simply forgot to take his meds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair, it's theoretical and we should be demanding FOSS firmware.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Facts. There's also no proof that Windows telemetry sends any sensitive data and that you can always trust the megacorps and governments to have your best interests at heart. Besides, it would be illegal for them to do anything with your data except maybe send targeted ads which you consented to so if you really think about it, everyone complaining about this is moronic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Facts. There's also no proof that Windows telemetry sends any sensitive data and that you can always trust the megacorps and governments to have your best interests at heart. Besides, it would be illegal for them to do anything with your data except maybe send targeted ads which you consented to so if you really think about it, everyone complaining about this is moronic.

      What the frick.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it is.
    But that doesn't mean you should make their job easier by using proprietary shit/pozzed OS/etc.
    They don't collect massive amounts of data (or commercial firewalls will notice/I'll notice on my router/etc) and that's great. Even better than israelitegle/Apple/Shitcrosoft. They will collect all the data, sell it and leak it to the glowies.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is so fricking awful. It is possible IME etc is backdoored or just so shitty that it is easy to hack, but this means literally fricking nothing if the machine is off and you aren't using shitty ass fricking bitlocker or other TPM dependent stuff.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is spyware really built into hardware now? Is there really no escape anymore?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everyone's been saying this since forever
    pic rel
    is this you op?

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