Never said you were using the term incorrectly in that particular instance and I even included a "based" to avoid confusion. See
Criticism has mostly become students internalizing a rubric and painting by the numbers it dictates. The curtains are no longer blue; the curtains are used by patriarchal white males to blind women and oppress homosexuals.
. Literary Criticism is a bullshit discipline used to programme NPCs.
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What is Lukacs' criticism of socialist realism?
What humanities disciplines have credible social epistemologies?
Are STEM fields any better, do not rely on Lakatos.
writers subconsciously write their worldview into their stories yes.
hopefully teachers are more responsible than the example in the image though. I'd assume most of them are just following whatever the curriculum says
depends on context
see , the author felt like specifying that because they probably associate curtains of that colour to a certain feeling or mood due to their life experience
Criticism has mostly become students internalizing a rubric and painting by the numbers it dictates. The curtains are no longer blue; the curtains are used by patriarchal white males to blind women and oppress homosexuals.
Depends on the author, and depends on an author's view of writing and art. In modern writing, it's usually true that such a detail is ordinarily meaningless, and arbitrarily thrown in by some principle only that such details make the world of the story more relatable or concretely imaginable. Otoh, some modern writers will use details to either evoke some amount of atmosphere (such as when a narrator notices decor that makes them relaxed or uneasy), or to characterize someone (such that pointing out that so-and-so has an ottoman in their room might be a way of showing who they are or want to be seen as). With older and older authors, who tended to be writing when allegory and symbolism were expected of good writing, it's more likely to mean something, but whether it in fact does or what it might mean would require comparison with that author's writing generally.
Mileage will always vary. If you're reading Keats, it's just there to sensuously enjoy, if you're reading Hemmingway, he wants you to notice it.
Not relevant, all that's relevant is that it was a norm among writers through a lot of written history. If you asked them if it meant anything when they specified "the curtains were blue", their answer would in large part be "yes." It's predominantly modern writers who don't intend either anything or much with their details.
Given that the hypertext contains the phrase "English teacher" which discipline do you think is relevant to literary criticism? Could it be literary criticism?
I'd recommend starting with Lukacs, then Terry Eagleton.
The problem with the blue camp of people is they never stop to wonder why it even matters enough to mention that the curtains were blue. Surely, this detail is too insignificant to mention if all it means is that the curtains were fricking blue.
More like >the author had a reason to mention the curtains color, either for symbolism, showing the style choices of whoever lives there, show what a limited viewpoint character notices in the room
The reason might be small, but a good writer would certainly not give information like that aimlessly. People don't publish first, unedited drafts
Yes, I see this very often.
It was really bad in my high school English class. My teacher took it to a whole other level. Everything was by the authors design and years of planning must have gone into each word which we must decipher to truly understand the book. Anything less was failing to read and graded accordingly.
The worst example was when she went off about the font type that was used and we had to review and study fonts to try and figure out what emotion was intended to be raised by the selection used. While studying fonts history was interesting, forcing it to some deeper meaning that was all planned years ago by the author to subtly trick my brain into feeling an emotion was not fun at all.
I ended up with an F when I pointed out the cheap paper backs by this publisher used in class all had the same generic looking font across their product line and that the original hardback book had a different font when it was published years ago by a different publisher. I concluded that the font was whatever was cost effective for the publisher, which I even had a letter from the publisher stating as such as I wrote one asking them as part of my research. Even if the author was playing such 7th dimensional mind games it was lost as the reprinting didn't use the the same font and that given how many years had passed the font emotionally impacted had likely changed over time anyway with detailed citations and examples. The teacher seemed to take my paper as a person attack and went full crazy on me. I guess I should have used more Comic Sans to make her brain recall the joys of her childhood to make her happy.
High school sophomores think (competent) writers describe things for no reason
Hemingway, on the other hand, knew.
Why is it a venn diagram? What does the intersection of blue and green represent here?
It's just what happens when art gays try to do maths.
i think the intersection refers to "The curtains"
>intersection
Based. Literally one of the buzzwords that tips you off you're listening to an NPC.
is there a better term? overlap?
Never said you were using the term incorrectly in that particular instance and I even included a "based" to avoid confusion. See
. Literary Criticism is a bullshit discipline used to programme NPCs.
What is Lukacs' criticism of socialist realism?
What humanities disciplines have credible social epistemologies?
Are STEM fields any better, do not rely on Lakatos.
writers subconsciously write their worldview into their stories yes.
hopefully teachers are more responsible than the example in the image though. I'd assume most of them are just following whatever the curriculum says
depends on context
see , the author felt like specifying that because they probably associate curtains of that colour to a certain feeling or mood due to their life experience
That is why you have to take the minimalism pill, because suddenly everything has a meaning to be there.
Criticism has mostly become students internalizing a rubric and painting by the numbers it dictates. The curtains are no longer blue; the curtains are used by patriarchal white males to blind women and oppress homosexuals.
Projection is real.
See: absolutely all feminist critcism.
Depends on the author, and depends on an author's view of writing and art. In modern writing, it's usually true that such a detail is ordinarily meaningless, and arbitrarily thrown in by some principle only that such details make the world of the story more relatable or concretely imaginable. Otoh, some modern writers will use details to either evoke some amount of atmosphere (such as when a narrator notices decor that makes them relaxed or uneasy), or to characterize someone (such that pointing out that so-and-so has an ottoman in their room might be a way of showing who they are or want to be seen as). With older and older authors, who tended to be writing when allegory and symbolism were expected of good writing, it's more likely to mean something, but whether it in fact does or what it might mean would require comparison with that author's writing generally.
Mileage will always vary. If you're reading Keats, it's just there to sensuously enjoy, if you're reading Hemmingway, he wants you to notice it.
Too many words, pseud.
>allegory and symbolism were expected of good writing
Never has anyone worth respecting held this view.
Not relevant, all that's relevant is that it was a norm among writers through a lot of written history. If you asked them if it meant anything when they specified "the curtains were blue", their answer would in large part be "yes." It's predominantly modern writers who don't intend either anything or much with their details.
but what disciplinary practices to be precise? last time i checked there were at least half a dozen of them for analyzing political texts alone.
Given that the hypertext contains the phrase "English teacher" which discipline do you think is relevant to literary criticism? Could it be literary criticism?
I'd recommend starting with Lukacs, then Terry Eagleton.
>I have to justify all the time I have wasted
>wasted
Son, I have tenure. That's why I shit post on IQfy. You're currently part of a research project.
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The closer you move the circles together, the fatter the c**t gets.
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The problem with the blue camp of people is they never stop to wonder why it even matters enough to mention that the curtains were blue. Surely, this detail is too insignificant to mention if all it means is that the curtains were fricking blue.
>b-but why is the blanket red???
It's a good question, since everything else is blue in the room except wood. It's kind of like you guys have no intellectual curiosity.
Analogous to memoir more than a novel maybe
Ask chatgpt the meaning
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>the author had a reason to mention the curtains color, either for symbolism, showing the style choices of whoever lives there, show what a limited viewpoint character notices in the room
The reason might be small, but a good writer would certainly not give information like that aimlessly. People don't publish first, unedited drafts
Yes, I see this very often.
It was really bad in my high school English class. My teacher took it to a whole other level. Everything was by the authors design and years of planning must have gone into each word which we must decipher to truly understand the book. Anything less was failing to read and graded accordingly.
The worst example was when she went off about the font type that was used and we had to review and study fonts to try and figure out what emotion was intended to be raised by the selection used. While studying fonts history was interesting, forcing it to some deeper meaning that was all planned years ago by the author to subtly trick my brain into feeling an emotion was not fun at all.
I ended up with an F when I pointed out the cheap paper backs by this publisher used in class all had the same generic looking font across their product line and that the original hardback book had a different font when it was published years ago by a different publisher. I concluded that the font was whatever was cost effective for the publisher, which I even had a letter from the publisher stating as such as I wrote one asking them as part of my research. Even if the author was playing such 7th dimensional mind games it was lost as the reprinting didn't use the the same font and that given how many years had passed the font emotionally impacted had likely changed over time anyway with detailed citations and examples. The teacher seemed to take my paper as a person attack and went full crazy on me. I guess I should have used more Comic Sans to make her brain recall the joys of her childhood to make her happy.