Atheism isn't a religion and it doesn't worship anything, although I suppose some atheists could worship things. But atheism itself just means you don't believe in God. No worship necessary.
Is Western atheism a religion that worships materialism?
It's amazing how Christians will argue all day amongst themselves about the definitions of the words "worship" and "venerate." For example do Catholics worship Mary? Or venerate her? But when talking about literally anything else besides Christianity you guys just use the word "worship" as liberally as possible.
Indeed it is. Western atheism has no fundamental difference with any other religion, as it simply exalts another god and offers them sacrifices.
Nope.
The core difference is that testing properties of nature and just believing things without testing the properties are not the same thing.
No matter how many times you morons say this, constructing models of reality based on tests is not the same thing as just believing in unproven religious mythologies.
No. Atheism and materialism aren't the same thing.
Also, atheism isn't a religion, and atheists don't "worship" materialism. Modern science has shown that Naturalism is the correct ontology of the universe, so a form of physical Naturalism is the most common belief system among atheists. Although there is a growing trend of weird panpsychism stuff too, that is also a naturalist position; it just attributes qualitative experiences to matter directly as opposed to considering them part of certain functions of information processing.
Atheism isn't a religion anymore than panentheism or henotheism is, it's a position. Atheists can be religious however - see, for instance, the Cult of Reason.
>atheism is just pure chaos with no order, you're like a wave being tossed about by the ocean
also >atheism is le religion that worships materialism!!
Pick one
Strictly speaking the philosophical belief of atheism isn't a religion, yet colloquially "atheism" as the naturalistic groups define themselves as is a religion that has a fair bit of variation like Hinduism so it's hard to pin down. It's more broadly autolatrous with material worship being a common but not necessary part of it, though it's certainly more prevalent in America. Look towards their most devout members, such as the LGBTQ, to have their beliefs most clearly communicated. Picrel is a good example of their incorporation of Phallicism into their practices.
Many of them identify as "secular humanists" and there are officially secular humanist organizations. This term seems to capture both materialism and autolatry (if by humanist one means concerned with oneself as a human being).
Yes humanism is currently one of the most formalized sects of this "colloquial atheism," however it was initially conceived as a nature cult, with focus being placed on exalting the individual's beliefs only in its modern form.
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/manifesto1/ >this age does owe a vast debt to the traditional religions, it is none the less obvious that any religion that can hope to be a synthesizing and dynamic force for today must be shaped for the needs of this age. To establish such a religion is a major necessity of the present. It is a responsibility which rests upon this generation. We therefore affirm the following: >FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created. >SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process. >THIRD: Holding an organic view of life, humanists find that the traditional dualism of mind and body must be rejected.
Now as a result of the group's growth, the emphasis of the modern humanist has changed from dogmas regarding nature to instead focus on subjectivism in accordance with colloquial atheism, wherein the group's principals are said to correspond to their collective beliefs:
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/manifesto3/ >This document is part of an ongoing effort to manifest in clear and positive terms the conceptual boundaries of Humanism, not what we must believe but a consensus of what we do believe
>materialism
This depends entirely on the Atheist in question. Everyone has a value structure that orients them in this life. When you remove God from the top of your value structure, some other thing will necessarily take it's place. This is almost always money, pride, honor, or power. Almost inevitably so, but there are notable exceptions.
The main issue is that it leaves them adrift, ready to be moved by whatever current takes them. Nothing to tie to besides random happenstance and arbitrary whims.
Atheism simply means you don't believe in a God or Gods. The label itself has no implicit statement about any other belief system, for example you could be an atheist and believe in ghosts or magic crystals or whatever. But just atheists in the West tend to be rationalists, empiricists, positivists, whatever you want to label it as.
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It's amazing how Christians will argue all day amongst themselves about the definitions of the words "worship" and "venerate." For example do Catholics worship Mary? Or venerate her? But when talking about literally anything else besides Christianity you guys just use the word "worship" as liberally as possible.
No
Everything in the West is a religion that worships materialism.
They worship science
Atheism isn't a religion and it doesn't worship anything, although I suppose some atheists could worship things. But atheism itself just means you don't believe in God. No worship necessary.
It's amazing how Christians will argue all day amongst themselves about the definitions of the words "worship" and "venerate." For example do Catholics worship Mary? Or venerate her? But when talking about literally anything else besides Christianity you guys just use the word "worship" as liberally as possible.
Ideology isn't religion. Belief isn't religion. Even faith isn't religion.
Nope.
The core difference is that testing properties of nature and just believing things without testing the properties are not the same thing.
No matter how many times you morons say this, constructing models of reality based on tests is not the same thing as just believing in unproven religious mythologies.
>constructing models of reality
So atheists are placing their faith that probablistic conclusions drawn from Inductive reasoning will always be true
Big difference between psychology and biology, chemistry, etc
No. Atheism and materialism aren't the same thing.
Also, atheism isn't a religion, and atheists don't "worship" materialism. Modern science has shown that Naturalism is the correct ontology of the universe, so a form of physical Naturalism is the most common belief system among atheists. Although there is a growing trend of weird panpsychism stuff too, that is also a naturalist position; it just attributes qualitative experiences to matter directly as opposed to considering them part of certain functions of information processing.
Atheism isn't a religion anymore than panentheism or henotheism is, it's a position. Atheists can be religious however - see, for instance, the Cult of Reason.
Indeed it is. Western atheism has no fundamental difference with any other religion, as it simply exalts another god and offers them sacrifices.
>atheism is just pure chaos with no order, you're like a wave being tossed about by the ocean
also
>atheism is le religion that worships materialism!!
Pick one
>Is Western atheism a religion
No.
Strictly speaking the philosophical belief of atheism isn't a religion, yet colloquially "atheism" as the naturalistic groups define themselves as is a religion that has a fair bit of variation like Hinduism so it's hard to pin down. It's more broadly autolatrous with material worship being a common but not necessary part of it, though it's certainly more prevalent in America. Look towards their most devout members, such as the LGBTQ, to have their beliefs most clearly communicated. Picrel is a good example of their incorporation of Phallicism into their practices.
Many of them identify as "secular humanists" and there are officially secular humanist organizations. This term seems to capture both materialism and autolatry (if by humanist one means concerned with oneself as a human being).
Yes humanism is currently one of the most formalized sects of this "colloquial atheism," however it was initially conceived as a nature cult, with focus being placed on exalting the individual's beliefs only in its modern form.
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/manifesto1/
>this age does owe a vast debt to the traditional religions, it is none the less obvious that any religion that can hope to be a synthesizing and dynamic force for today must be shaped for the needs of this age. To establish such a religion is a major necessity of the present. It is a responsibility which rests upon this generation. We therefore affirm the following:
>FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.
>SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process.
>THIRD: Holding an organic view of life, humanists find that the traditional dualism of mind and body must be rejected.
Now as a result of the group's growth, the emphasis of the modern humanist has changed from dogmas regarding nature to instead focus on subjectivism in accordance with colloquial atheism, wherein the group's principals are said to correspond to their collective beliefs:
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/manifesto3/
>This document is part of an ongoing effort to manifest in clear and positive terms the conceptual boundaries of Humanism, not what we must believe but a consensus of what we do believe
Atheist here, I wouldn't call myself a humanist really, I don't much about humanism
I just don't believe in god, simple as that
>materialism
This depends entirely on the Atheist in question. Everyone has a value structure that orients them in this life. When you remove God from the top of your value structure, some other thing will necessarily take it's place. This is almost always money, pride, honor, or power. Almost inevitably so, but there are notable exceptions.
The main issue is that it leaves them adrift, ready to be moved by whatever current takes them. Nothing to tie to besides random happenstance and arbitrary whims.
Atheism simply means you don't believe in a God or Gods. The label itself has no implicit statement about any other belief system, for example you could be an atheist and believe in ghosts or magic crystals or whatever. But just atheists in the West tend to be rationalists, empiricists, positivists, whatever you want to label it as.
Correct
Because they're idiots