Because it's less complicated than arch, seems to have a lot of support, has been around forever and seems like a good allround platform to learn more on.
I was also looking at Manjaro, Mint and I was playing with Tails just for fun.
No.
Stop pushing newbies toward Ubuntu you're just gonna make them miserable
at least say Mint, it's the Ubuntu experience without the bloat and the bullshit
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am not a noob I've been online since 1999. I'm just intellectually lazy and never converted to Linux despite knowing it's the golden path. Winblows is ezmode. Keep in mind I've also slowly watched from the sidelines while linux went form user-hostile garbage to something an average end-user might consider as an actually workable alternative to windows. The WM and DE's have come a long way.
So, whatever, Debian is 'boomer max'. Sounds great! But Ubuntu? Frick off.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I've been online since 1999
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
close enough. This is IQfy, I'm in good company, right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
wow you've been on the internet THAT long? i'm so fricking impressed anon
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I am not a noob I've been online since 1999
people born in 1999 graduated highschool 7 years ago.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Stop pushing newbies toward Ubuntu
no 🙂 >at least say Mint
no 🙂
the intent is to encourage others that a linux-curious to follow suit. It's never too late.
Ever since I was a kid I knew I didn't fit in with the other wintards. I wouldn't even know it was possible to transition to Linux if not for posts like this. And eventually these kind of posts helped give me the courage to come out as a Linux user. So thank you OP.
So do I but I think it's worth creating a small partition for a very simple win10LTSC install just for that. (it's Dark Reign). It's heavily dependent on .Net framworks..
Partitions are known to be notorious for dual boot afaik so I'm thinking of going the double drive route rather than a partition. I'll be doing that soon
I have dual booted linux and windows for the last 10 years, it's incredibly easy and i can only assume the people that frick it up are absolutely moronic.
Install windows on the drive, then install linux with manual partitions. It just works, no problems. Only issue ive ever had was a grub update fricking up it's boot entries and i had to run grub repair.
Windows has never touched any of my linux partitions or caused any other boot problems.
there are none. Debian is basically boomer maxx and has some of the worst maintainers and policies possible.
At least Suse and RH shit works, even their unstable releases at least function unlike Sid.
Ubuntu basically just repackages it and then forces you onto a "Pro" license (it's "free" for the first 5 machines for non-commercial use) to get actual security updates for added kek.
I'd personally just serve every debian like at this point. most zoom zooms don't remember the various Debian packaging dramas to crop up. A friend of mine use to actually be a package maintainer for Debian too.
Don't listen to the moron pushing for Ubuntu, there's no reason to go for a fork with worse policies and more bloat instead of getting the OG deal. There is literally no reason to use Ubuntu. Go for Debian. Or I guess, Mint is OK too, the most noob-friendly and works out of the box experience, they are doing their own thing separate from Ubuntu these days.
Manjaro is a trap, it's a newbie friendly distro, but located on the bleeding edge Arch ecosystem. So you'll be happy with it, until one day you decide to type Pacman -Syu and update your whole system, and your install will break. And then you will quit Linux in frustration. So no, don't go for a bleeding edge distro.
Fedora has questionable practices, you will be a hamster in the Red Hat/IBM ecosystem, but the distro itself is solid.
I personally recommend newbies to go for Debian or Mint, I don't see why you would want to try anything else when starting out.
Maybe Lubuntu if you have a potato computer?
>you will be a hamster in the Red Hat/IBM ecosystem
It's not even a bad thing given most wages will be built on ancient versions of Fedora anyhow (Enterprise Linux).
honestly greenfield computer science enjoyers should just eat the bullet and go on NixOS. It's not that hard. My work Windows WSL2 environment is NixOS now, most of my VPNs are running NixOS as well.
Ubuntu is just as good (or just as bad, if you prefer) as any other distro. The only difference with Ubuntu is that when (not if) you run into a problem and you have to look up the solution, the most immediate answers will be for Ubuntu. This is the reality of it.
I don't use/recommend Ubuntu because it's the best most perfect most special snowflake distro in all the land, I use it because it's practical and standard. >Don't listen to the moron pushing for Ubuntu, there's no reason to go for a fork with worse policies and more bloat instead of getting the OG deal. >Or I guess, Mint is OK too
L M A O
>Ubuntu is just as good (or just as bad, if you prefer) as any other distro.
No it's not. Other distributions are not shoving snaps down my throat.
>The only difference with Ubuntu is that when (not if) you run into a problem and you have to look up the solution, the most immediate answers will be for Ubuntu. This is the reality of it.
Finding solutions for Debian and Mint problems is just as easy.
>I don't use/recommend Ubuntu because it's the best most perfect most special snowflake distro in all the land, I use it because it's practical and standard. >>Don't listen to the moron pushing for Ubuntu, there's no reason to go for a fork with worse policies and more bloat instead of getting the OG deal. >>Or I guess, Mint is OK too >L M A O
I said there is no reason to use a worse fork. What's so funny?
Ubuntu is a worse version of Debian.
Mint is an improved version of Ubuntu.
>le heckin snaperinos
Complete non-issue. Why would I care about this if I've never even used Linux before? And if for some reason I did, why wouldn't I just sudo apt purge --autoremove snapd? That's what I do on all my machines anyway. Never had a single problem with it. Never had snapd silently reinstall itself as some people claim has happened to them. >Mint is an improved version of Ubuntu.
Only if your definition of "improved" involves replacing the default gnome with a shitty laggy fork from 2012.
oh, shut up, OP needs to weigh what we're screeching within his own mind and come to his own conclusion. We all just want our favorite distro to get another user. It's not profound.
I got what I wanted from the thread, a good laugh and vindication that Debian isn't a bad idea. I like the idea of finding solutions to problems just as readily as if I was on Ubuntu.
Debian is awesome but it requires some tinkering after installation. If you have some old laptop to test distros and DEs, you can learn a lot that way very fast.
Any distros that properly support my ThinkPad's fingerprint sensor? I've grown to love it and from what I've read online it seems hit or miss as to whether it works with Linux.
You'll be back. Just remember Tiny11 Builder exists. You can look at all the scripts and make your own iso and be happy. Linux is just terrible. Anyone who says otherwise is on ancient hardware or doesn't do anything productive with their computers and uses them as a status symbol. Lintroons and iToddlers are exactly the same. Same energy. Same idiotic arguments.
Go Debian, Fedora or Arch. Don't fall for the meme forks, all they do is complicate and break things. Use flatpaks and/or appimages for everything that you want to install outside of your repository, don't add third party repos.
Why Debian?
Because it's less complicated than arch, seems to have a lot of support, has been around forever and seems like a good allround platform to learn more on.
I was also looking at Manjaro, Mint and I was playing with Tails just for fun.
Literally just just Ubuntu.
I mean Debian is fine but the QOL experience is just overall worse.
Stay as far away from Manjaro as possible.
No.
Stop pushing newbies toward Ubuntu you're just gonna make them miserable
at least say Mint, it's the Ubuntu experience without the bloat and the bullshit
I am not a noob I've been online since 1999. I'm just intellectually lazy and never converted to Linux despite knowing it's the golden path. Winblows is ezmode. Keep in mind I've also slowly watched from the sidelines while linux went form user-hostile garbage to something an average end-user might consider as an actually workable alternative to windows. The WM and DE's have come a long way.
So, whatever, Debian is 'boomer max'. Sounds great! But Ubuntu? Frick off.
>I've been online since 1999
close enough. This is IQfy, I'm in good company, right?
wow you've been on the internet THAT long? i'm so fricking impressed anon
>I am not a noob I've been online since 1999
people born in 1999 graduated highschool 7 years ago.
>Stop pushing newbies toward Ubuntu
no 🙂
>at least say Mint
no 🙂
/unsubscribe
Congratulations on your transition anon! We're all so so proud of you for coming out.
>I'm doing it, real soon
Making threads about how you are "going to" do something is real attention whoring. Nobody is impressed, please frick off.
the intent is to encourage others that a linux-curious to follow suit. It's never too late.
if you need encouragement to do something its probably because you dont want to do it in the first place
Ever since I was a kid I knew I didn't fit in with the other wintards. I wouldn't even know it was possible to transition to Linux if not for posts like this. And eventually these kind of posts helped give me the courage to come out as a Linux user. So thank you OP.
I have a dependency on a windows application that I cannot address with wine else I'd have switched long ago
So do I but I think it's worth creating a small partition for a very simple win10LTSC install just for that. (it's Dark Reign). It's heavily dependent on .Net framworks..
Partitions are known to be notorious for dual boot afaik so I'm thinking of going the double drive route rather than a partition. I'll be doing that soon
I have dual booted linux and windows for the last 10 years, it's incredibly easy and i can only assume the people that frick it up are absolutely moronic.
Install windows on the drive, then install linux with manual partitions. It just works, no problems. Only issue ive ever had was a grub update fricking up it's boot entries and i had to run grub repair.
Windows has never touched any of my linux partitions or caused any other boot problems.
Do it anon. I switched from windows 10 to debian in 2016 and I've never distrohopped.
I’m thinking of trying Fedora some time before Windows 10 loses support, what are the pros of using Debian instead?
there are none. Debian is basically boomer maxx and has some of the worst maintainers and policies possible.
At least Suse and RH shit works, even their unstable releases at least function unlike Sid.
Ubuntu basically just repackages it and then forces you onto a "Pro" license (it's "free" for the first 5 machines for non-commercial use) to get actual security updates for added kek.
I'd personally just serve every debian like at this point. most zoom zooms don't remember the various Debian packaging dramas to crop up. A friend of mine use to actually be a package maintainer for Debian too.
Sounds good, Fedora it is, then.
Don't listen to the moron pushing for Ubuntu, there's no reason to go for a fork with worse policies and more bloat instead of getting the OG deal. There is literally no reason to use Ubuntu. Go for Debian. Or I guess, Mint is OK too, the most noob-friendly and works out of the box experience, they are doing their own thing separate from Ubuntu these days.
Manjaro is a trap, it's a newbie friendly distro, but located on the bleeding edge Arch ecosystem. So you'll be happy with it, until one day you decide to type Pacman -Syu and update your whole system, and your install will break. And then you will quit Linux in frustration. So no, don't go for a bleeding edge distro.
Fedora has questionable practices, you will be a hamster in the Red Hat/IBM ecosystem, but the distro itself is solid.
I personally recommend newbies to go for Debian or Mint, I don't see why you would want to try anything else when starting out.
Maybe Lubuntu if you have a potato computer?
>you will be a hamster in the Red Hat/IBM ecosystem
It's not even a bad thing given most wages will be built on ancient versions of Fedora anyhow (Enterprise Linux).
honestly greenfield computer science enjoyers should just eat the bullet and go on NixOS. It's not that hard. My work Windows WSL2 environment is NixOS now, most of my VPNs are running NixOS as well.
>VPNs
VPSs I mean.
Ubuntu is just as good (or just as bad, if you prefer) as any other distro. The only difference with Ubuntu is that when (not if) you run into a problem and you have to look up the solution, the most immediate answers will be for Ubuntu. This is the reality of it.
I don't use/recommend Ubuntu because it's the best most perfect most special snowflake distro in all the land, I use it because it's practical and standard.
>Don't listen to the moron pushing for Ubuntu, there's no reason to go for a fork with worse policies and more bloat instead of getting the OG deal.
>Or I guess, Mint is OK too
L M A O
>Ubuntu is just as good (or just as bad, if you prefer) as any other distro.
No it's not. Other distributions are not shoving snaps down my throat.
>The only difference with Ubuntu is that when (not if) you run into a problem and you have to look up the solution, the most immediate answers will be for Ubuntu. This is the reality of it.
Finding solutions for Debian and Mint problems is just as easy.
>I don't use/recommend Ubuntu because it's the best most perfect most special snowflake distro in all the land, I use it because it's practical and standard.
>>Don't listen to the moron pushing for Ubuntu, there's no reason to go for a fork with worse policies and more bloat instead of getting the OG deal.
>>Or I guess, Mint is OK too
>L M A O
I said there is no reason to use a worse fork. What's so funny?
Ubuntu is a worse version of Debian.
Mint is an improved version of Ubuntu.
>le heckin snaperinos
Complete non-issue. Why would I care about this if I've never even used Linux before? And if for some reason I did, why wouldn't I just sudo apt purge --autoremove snapd? That's what I do on all my machines anyway. Never had a single problem with it. Never had snapd silently reinstall itself as some people claim has happened to them.
>Mint is an improved version of Ubuntu.
Only if your definition of "improved" involves replacing the default gnome with a shitty laggy fork from 2012.
why would you, if you have activated windows that does the thing
is no one going to mention LMDE 6?the Debian Mint distro? the debian, but with user-friendly features immediately installed distro?
This seems cool but I think I will learn more with stock Debian.
>switch to Linux!
>what Linux?
>[2 hours of autistic screeching ensues]
2024: YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP
oh, shut up, OP needs to weigh what we're screeching within his own mind and come to his own conclusion. We all just want our favorite distro to get another user. It's not profound.
there's only one linux, anon
>switch to GNU/Linux!
>what GNU/Linux?
>[2 hours of autistic screeching ensues]
2024: YEAR OF THE GNU/LINUX DESKTOP
gnu is an optional set of applications for linux
You're an optional set of applications for Linux
neat
>actually using kernel.org kernels unironically
lol. ballsy.
newbie moron, that's just the source
I got what I wanted from the thread, a good laugh and vindication that Debian isn't a bad idea. I like the idea of finding solutions to problems just as readily as if I was on Ubuntu.
Debian is awesome but it requires some tinkering after installation. If you have some old laptop to test distros and DEs, you can learn a lot that way very fast.
I'm waiting for that Nvidia explicit sync to drop
Any distros that properly support my ThinkPad's fingerprint sensor? I've grown to love it and from what I've read online it seems hit or miss as to whether it works with Linux.
You will realize Arch desktop and Debian server is correct eventually.
You'll be back. Just remember Tiny11 Builder exists. You can look at all the scripts and make your own iso and be happy. Linux is just terrible. Anyone who says otherwise is on ancient hardware or doesn't do anything productive with their computers and uses them as a status symbol. Lintroons and iToddlers are exactly the same. Same energy. Same idiotic arguments.
>Just remember Tiny11 Builder exists
wtf is that? you wintoddlers are fricking neurotic, delusional and insane, all at once.
just enable wsl2 bro
Go Debian, Fedora or Arch. Don't fall for the meme forks, all they do is complicate and break things. Use flatpaks and/or appimages for everything that you want to install outside of your repository, don't add third party repos.