ITT: Actual good self help books
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the bible
the Quran unironically
>attract women through honesty
qrd?
>qrd?
You just tell them you're a heir, and you're actually a heir.
just bee urself
Success with women (and basically success at any kind of relationship) is about being true to yourself and being open with your flaws. You should eliminate all artificial behaviour from your life rather than layering more on top.
Basically just b urself. If you think a girl is cute, just go up to her and tell her you think she's cute. Don't stand there for 10 minutes trying to remember the 20 things you need to do to come across as a stone cold sigma male you saw in a youtube video and then work out which of the 50 pickup lines you spent 2 weeks remembering you're going to try and use while standing in a perfect posture power pose.
How's that working for you?
Worked for me.
It's not about it "working", but about seeing if the woman is interested while optimising your chances somewhat.
Don't think I need a book to tell me this, although it's probably insightful for all the internet autists who trawl through PUA videos and content online
>just go up to her and tell her you think she's cute.
and then go sit in the waiting room with all the 200 other chuds who told her that day that she's cute
People don't approach women anymore.
In a world full of incels and 'alpha male PUA Tate dudes', just being a regular guy will bring you far.
Women complain constantly about men bothering them everywhere they go.
Ah yes, reddit. The reliable source of the internet.
> waah my life must be dictated by women
if you wanna smash the c**t you must first talk to it.
>People don't approach women anymore.
so sad. the approach / asking on a date / getting her home are the best parts of meeting and seducing women. That's where the ego boost is, for me. Sex is secondary.
I'm an oldgay so I have old man game. And I do a *ton* of networking for business (great place to meet women btw). I can walk into a room of strangers and start talking with anyone. Be that guy. It takes practice - lots of practice.
>be me
>attended three networking events one day - two in the morning, one lunch
>go for beers with girlfriend at the local brewery
>see a group of people all wearing nametags
>girlfriend has never seen me in action
>tell her, "how is there a netowrking event I didn't know about?"
>bet her $5 that I could walk into the group and start chatting
>do it
>make three new contacts in the local tourism industry
the only way to learn how to do it is to do it
I was exposed to PUA shit like early Roosh and youtube channels like Aaron Clarey and Turd Flinging Monkey when I was a kid, around the age of 12-14. It fricked me up really bad.
The sad part is that PUA shit does work to get women interested in you, the problem is that it's exhausting and being fake can only get you so far. If you want to have sex with a girl then ghost her eventually the PUA gurus will tell you the right shit. If you want to have a healthy relationship then only follow snippets of their advice.
I had no father and an abusive mother so I felt like I needed PUA tactics to interact with women in any capacity. I used it on several women, it did work, but I got tired of them and would ghost them when the act started to wear me down. As a result I have never made any honest relationships. After doing acid, retrospection, and hitting a low point I'm trying to be more honest with people including women. I don't care enough about sex to fake being a different person anymore.
Models isn't really like most PUA books though, it also teaches you how to have long term relationships with women also.
I didn't mean to imply Models was like this, rather to expand upon the OP's statement "actually good self help books" and because I think my experience has relevance to the book. I'll probably check it out, happy to have gotten the recommendation.
It's trying to soften the blow of the blackpill, by insinuating that despite being genetic trash there might be a demographic of women interested in you, as long as you keep approaching them. It's basically trying to give you some hopium to prevent you from going ER, but he does admit that there are genetic flaws that you can't do anything about.
That's it. I've cringed to the max. I've cringed so hard that I can no longer uncringe. I'm permanently folded in half. The doctor says that if I cringe any further than this I may just snap my spine in half, wilting, writhing and wailing in excruciating agony at the mitre joint that I've become. My mind has been reduced to a mere liquefied mush at the prospect of comprehending how my life came to this. All I do now is lay painfully on my side, dribbling out of my permanently gaped mouth and staring dumbly into whatever static image of reality happens to be in front of me. "...How?", I think I hear myself murmur or mutter. My body and mind separate in complete antithesis, neither preferring to be in the same spacial-temporal locus as the other. I watch as I lay there. Lifeless. A husk of what once was a person. It sees me and I see it. And I rise and dissipate once more with the blow of a fresh spring breeze -- an ode to what was and what will be.
Lel.
Willpower - Roy Baumeister
Atomic Habits - James Clear
Anything by Cal Newport
Honestly self help is a perfectly good genre. gays just complain about it because they still have to do the work after reading the advice.
Are you the same anon who was shilling Deep Work a few months ago? If you are, thank you, I found his books very helpful.
I want to like Cal Newport stuff but the way he writes is incredibly boring and I feel like I get 90% of the value from watching a YT video that reads like the cliff notes of his books
Unironically helped me improve my productivity and increase my networth. I will donate my copy to a highschool kid when I make my first million.
is it a good intro to nietzche? just noticed i have a copy of this but i haven't read anything else from him.
No. Read twilight of the idols as an intro, then genealogy of morals
will do, thanks
then I can read Zarathustra?
Zarathustra is generally recommended to read last but it should be fine tbh
I’m a brainlet trying to brain up, I got completly filtered by Zarathustra and philosophy in general. How do I make brains gains, anons?
Leave it a while, read some other stuff. Come back to it after a few months. It'll bubble away in your subconscious without you even noticing and probably seem much easier the second time around.
Learn philosophy chronologically. Start with introductions and secondary literature for every major thinker, not their actual work.
how?i understood most of the twilight of the idols without starting from the greeks or nietzsche other works.only read kant's critique of pure reason but it seemed like a meme and dropped it
Well, the book sucks as much as the author and his "philosophy" that he didn't even practice. Instead of reading authors that are controversial or for more experienced readers, maybe try reading a book about how philosophy even works, pick up something about the methodology in modern philosophy, logical thinking, the history, etc.
Read books on philosophies and ideas that you genuinely find interesting or intriguing instead of starting with the greeks, le classics or some other shit that you might find really boring because some anons told you to.
Look for overviews on various philosophies and pick up the easier works from certain schools of thought.
Read the Apology of Socrates by Plato or Epistulae Morales by Seneca, avoid Nietzche until you know the Ancients or you'll become a pseud.
>anything by nietzche
>good introduction
lmao
The man writes very very heavy handed literature, and has to elegantly weave together words to try and get more subtle points across to the reader. The prose has to work against the fact the words are concrete, but the human condition is transient and will outlive his german dialect by millennia upon millennia.
Which means any of his works are a struggle to read when translated, and a bit better in the original language.
And people will read the works, because the points hits home, and you get to try an stare at human nature and the subtle ripples of your reflection.
AND as a bonus its still readable if you are not a part of the Protestant zeitgeist of the late 1800s, which some works fall to: Unreadable outside of the peer group, thereby irrelevant just a few decades later
I’m sure some kid in 2067 will be super fired up to get a book from a creepy old dude
They will if they have enough of an aristocratic spirit. You downplay that probably because you're of a lower breed, so you naturally despise fame and power.
I personally don’t know too many aristocrats who don’t know how to use a comma
There's nothing wrong with that sentence, midwit.
>I personally don’t know too many aristocrats who don’t know how to use a comma
ROMANSUSEDTONOTUSESPACESORLOWERCASELETTERSLETALONEPUNCTUATIONTRUEARISTOCRATSUNDERSTANDTHATYOUJUSTHAVETOPUTINSOMEEFFORTINTOUNDERSTANDINGWHATTHEAUTHORMEANTWITHOUTTHOSECONVIENIENCES
I will donate a copy to a highschool kid when I make my first ten thousand
A high school kid who is reading books but isn't just stealing them for free online was never gonna make it to begin with.
Unironically
i wish there were more black women in my country, i don’t care what gays say, bw are beautiful
imagine the smell
The only legitimate answer.
read this book a couple years ago, didn't get much from it
had a good kek at the fashion advice complete with black-and-white photos
also why does every self-help guy, particularly the sex & dating coach ones, always say the same shit about sex:
>I went around and had sex with a bunch of women all around the world and had threesomes and dated insanely beautiful women but YOU shouldn't, take it from me
>YOU should be super picky and filter hard and basically never have sex with a woman unless you're planning on marrying her
In my experience his "polarization theory" or whatever doesn't hold up. you can absolutely take a woman from hating you to wanting to frick you (homage patrice o'neal)
aside from that the only things I remember from this book which I ended up using were two semi-related points from different chapters of the book:
>if you have a choice between two actions/responses/etc, choose the bolder one
>not being afraid to touch women is the difference between a guy who can't get laid and one who can't stop his phone from blowing up
>guy tries something but it makes his life worse and he tells others not to do it
Perfectly straightforward. Why are you stubbornly clinging to the stupid idea that cheap sex is fulfilling?
>Why are you stubbornly clinging to the stupid idea that cheap sex is fulfilling?
For the same reason that "incel", "what 0 pussy does to an mf", "scaring the hos", etc are insults. Because cheap sex is high status behavior for men and is socially venerated. Because guys who don't get it are viewed as lower status. Because when you're not getting laid at all, it's hard to believe the guy who has a different girl every day of the week when he says "my life sucks, actually".
It's like wealth. It's easy for someone who's wealthy to say it doesn't make life better and isn't fulfilling (and there's a grain of truth to that), but you'll come across as an butthole to most poor people if you say making your first million made your life actively worse and they should avoid doing it.
Come on, anon. But what if cheap sex is actually unfulfilling? Should they lie and say it isn't, after getting it and realizing that it is not? Wouldn't it be better to tell the truth.
Also, it is not because something gives you status with ignorant people that it is fulfilling.
Obviously not, but there's a difference between "don't expect to be fulfilled by X, but it can still be worth doing" and "don't do X". Manson falls firmly into the later camp.
Anon, people have been impressed with guys who sleep around since long before Tate, long before Fleming published Casino Royale, and long before Giacomo Casanova published his memoirs. Insisting it's some new low status thing that "actual successful people" don't do is a colossal cope.
But what if it is not worth doing? Should they lie?
Would you believe a rich guy who claimed having wealth wasn't worth doing, but kept generating more wealth for years after saying that?
What does that have to do with anything?
>What does that have to do with anything?
everything
>Would you believe a rich guy who claimed having wealth wasn't worth doing, but kept generating more wealth for years after saying that?
they are not equivalent
do you really have "game" and is it really YOU that's pulling her if 99% of the battle is just "have a body that is an attractive blend of your attractive parents"? I'll never understand why normalgays act they bootstrapped themselves out of the ether
What is there to cope about?
Having sex is easy. And these days it is the Tate morons and the drunk roasties who value cheap, easy and plentiful sex.
And who is it that values a lot of cheap sex as something good?
Having a lot of sex with loose women is not a flex or something impressive to actual successful people. The people who adore Andrew Tate are 12-22 year olds who grew up without a father figure. Are you trying to impress them? Or the 16-27 year old roasties who think a good time is getting drunk at a bar dancing to generic music.
There are a lot of them and they will e impressed by you nailing an easy woman who doesn't mind being one of many. But to impress people who are actually worth impressing, landing a woman who impresses with her looks and personality is actually more impressive. It could be the only woman you've ever fricked in your life, that just makes it even more impressive.
>>not being afraid to touch women is the difference between a guy who can't get laid and one who can't stop his phone from blowing up
How old are you and what is an example situation in which you might (or might not) touch a woman?
manson makes a strong case for the importance of touch and notes that it's the most neglected of all techniques when it comes to getting women
he says you should basically be almost too touchy when talking to a woman.
>example
punctuate a good (shared) laugh with a hand on her shoulder
land a good joke and made her burst into laughter? put a hand on her shoulder for a couple seconds as you laugh.
I guess another good one is full-body contact, when in a loud bar or club you have to get close to talk to a woman, and eventually as she warms up to you, you can basically press your body against her to talk into her ear, put a hand on her hip, and then you're face-to-face and might as well start making out (she's almost guaranteed to glance at your lips then smile which is your green flag to go for a kiss). a less experienced guy might just lean in close to her ear periodically to say something rather than closing the distance (because he's afraid of making her uncomfortable).
Isn't being touchy one of the things women mention the most about creepy guys tho? I guess you really have to read the mood (I'm doomed).
Touching is just escalation. Escalation by someone attractive is good, otherwise it's bad. But you have to try at some point.
>Touching is just escalation. Escalation by someone attractive is good, otherwise it's bad. But you have to try at some point.
>isolate
>escalate
>calibrate
>repeat unti p is in the v
remember, men lead, women follow. Don't ever expect a woman to initiate anything, and be wary of those that do
>creepy
I don't like this word because creepiness is extremely misunderstood. 90% of being creepy is doing things without confidence
you can say and do pretty much anything as long as you do it confidently. the same exact words delivered without confidence vs with confidence will have wildly different results.
Something is creepy when it's done without being attractive, which might include confidence. Consider Indians, who are very confident to the point of abject delusion, but who women find disgusting.
If I could combine my European features and decorum with Indian confidence, I'd unironically be Casanova.
it's funny you bring up indians because they're basically the only group for which dating advice doesn't apply
if you're indian you're out, simple as. literally any other race has a chance and can gain something from books like Models.
Indians aren't out when in India, where they belong. It's only because they're out of their shithole that they're abhorrent in the dating game.
Not even true. Harder for them than any other group but I knew a 5ft8 Indian guy in college who was a top tier frickboy. Whitewashed persona, fashionable, frat boy, relatively handsome, and unreasonably confident. Got lots of play, but insufferable to be around due to the underlying insecurity. Running game with him was super fun though.
ah yes, the mythical jeet slayer
funny how the only place anyone ever mentions them is on anonymous imageboards
not him but he is right.
the thing that you need to consider when you read those posts is that those guys (indians who get game and b***hes) usually go with black or brown girls and are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants so they don't have the funny pajeet accent and mannerism
>t. ranjesh
Ok Rajeesh.
used to be friends with a bengladeshi kid who played guitar and cleaned up pretty white b***hes. I will never understand
go outside and read the mood yourself you tard.no books will help you if you are arguing about terms and what women think/attracted to in a mongolian fishing forum.women are just adult children they change their terms on a whim
NTA, but if you literally just met the person and it's not some highly physical environment like a club, you're better off not really touching her. But if she knows you and the two of you talk to each other from time to time, then yes, you want to get physical in order to create a closer bond.
Something is creepy when one of the following is true:
>it doesn't fit the occasion/situation
For example, you're sitting on a bench outside and are talking about work or school, and you decide, for some brainrot reason, that you want to put your hand on her thigh. Creepy because no social skills.
>you're acting without self-confidence
For example, you try to hug her when you meet, but you hesitate halfway through, and overall seem uncomfortable with physical contact. Creepy because no bonding skills.
>you're ugly (no sexual desireability)
Self-explanatory, really. Though, I would note that if you have good hygiene and dress reasonably, she SHOULD still be fine with having rudimentary physical contact with you.
>you are already in a friend zone
For example, you had 0 physical contact with her for weeks or months and then all of a sudden you start getting touchy with her. It causes emotional strain on her end since she has already categorized you. Creepy because no social AND bonding skills.
very good post
I've had two disaster dates because I touched too early
As in one of them, she just stood up and left. She was weird though.
This is putrid shit that justifies women acting like selfish entitled c**ts all the time. Written by a yid too.
Yeah I agree, the whole book is basically "women can do whatever irrational shit they want, and if you don't pass all of their insane shit tests you're a failure as a man".
But on the other hand I found this book really liberating because it made me stop trying to "figure out" women. It made me realize that there's no point trying to be logical when interacting with women because women don't think logically. And it also made me realize that maybe that's not such a bad thing. Women are emotionally driven, impulsive, and kind of wild, but that's okay. All my life I'd been wishing women were more logical, but I was basically just wishing that women were more like men. Maybe it's okay for women to just be women. Crazy, emotional, loving women.
unironically this
I read it every year
tldr:
>women are like the ocean
>placid one moment, a hurricane the next for no reason
>men must be like the rock of Gibralter
>Gibralter is a solid rock
>it doesn't care of the sea is placid, or a tempest
>it remains unchaning
also this
>don't change her mind, change her mood
another good point
>men lead, women follow
ever have this conversation with a woman
>m: what do you want to do for dinner
>f: I don't know, what do you want to do
>I don't care, you pick
>no you pick
try this instead:
>m: let's go get Mexican for dinner
>f: okay
I've had multiple women tell me that they like going out with me because they don't have to make decisions
>If you fail a woman's 20 shit tests, you failed as a man!
>>If you fail a woman's 20 shit tests, you failed as a man!
more like
>if you don't understand that women and men are different, and learn to love the true nature of women, you aren't a man
>the true nature of women
no such thing
He writes like shit, but the content is good. He has a good youtube channel too
>only aiming for top 3%
>just be a constant sex pest, but do it in a charming non-creepy way
wow thanks Mark, i could just have asked any italian
>they can't even try to understand other people's perspectives
The irony is lost on you, isn't it?
>pursuing what everyone pursues makes them small-minded
you're one dumb fricker. no one needs the "perspective" of some more accomplished guy telling them the grass is always greener.
Can someone tell me about 7 Habits of Highly Effective People?
It is being brought up at my job.
Its in a self help chart so its probably good
How to attract women:
1. Repeat to yourself 50x daily: "I think rather highly of myself.
2. Say hello.
>ITT: Actual good self help books
There's no such thing, unironically. You're just paying a poser to tell you things you can figure out yourself if you actually use your brain to think critically over the issues you're concerned with, or (if necessary) talk to someone trusted. It's ironic, because so many people like to stick up their noses and make posts like
>Imagine reading genre fiction
When in reality it's the exact opposite. There's no reason to read anything for reasons other than personal amusement or research. It's all just a bunch of pathetic cucks trying to make themselves look smarter by being insincere pricks who pretend not to enjoy things.
Imagine unironically reading non-fiction.
>t. Blue pilled guy who thinks he's red pilled.
>300 pages of "just be yourself bro"
This advice only works for normies, and they wouldn't need to read a book about getting girls in the first place.
>The Like Switch
This is like a more modern, updated version of How to Win Friends and Influence People that has plenty of specific and actionable advice. It covers a lot more ground too, including stuff like body language. Following the principles in this book, I was able to build a wide social circle from scratch in my late 20s as a total autist who had never had any friends since high school. It definitely beats out most similar books, being based in science and the experience of a professional, as opposed to a lot of "PUA/game" books I've read that are mostly just a bunch of bullshit they made up.
Shut up, Jack
>bla bla bla MUH FBI
yeah nah that book is gay
It's really weird there is an entire industry around peddling basic social skills. Truly we live in a society
I recommend his other book on boundaries/ assertiveness as well
(When I say no I feel guilty)
Why is everything mark manson writes so good?
It’s all meaningless drivel. If you get something out of it that’s fine, but it’s more because YOU were groping for some kind of answer at a low point in your life and took what you could get. Might as well try religion or philosophy or anything else, self help just preys on the desperate needs of insecure people.
>Actually helps you get laid instead of being "just b urself :p" book
Why do people meme on just book for encouraging you to be less insecure about yourself, and that women find honesty and confidence attractive? Why do you think every normalgay and people in happy relationships (you know, people who have sex and go on dates) tell betas to 'just be yourself', BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS.
Kek, Neil 'just bully her till she sleeps with you bro' Strauss left that community and wrote another book that he was wrong, called the Truth. Here's an article on it: https://slate.com/culture/2015/10/neil-strauss-the-truth-reviewed.html
It's an outdated meme book that only fools literal middle schoolers.
I've seen The Game in free book piles and at second hand stores, I always get it because I don't want that poison getting to young boys as a default.
Go Free by Jason Kohne.
If you are fed up with the antiwhiteism in society is is a must read.
The problem with PUA isn't that it's immoral, it just doesn't weirk. Ig it worked for you you were already atteactive. I was part of that community for a while and never saw an incel be succesful, it was always guys who already were good looking and just started approaching more.
>reading self-help
you got any tupperware or mangosteen juice you wanna sell me too?
it's the way you say it.
the problem I see with ESLtards(90% of this board) is that they might have substance, but they can't present it. as the eyes are a window to the soul, so too is the tongue the window to your brain. when I hear you fricks try to tell me something interesting face-to-face, it's always ruined by a monotone voice, no variety in pitch, radio-static voiceboxes, or, on the other end: crazy staccato, e.g. the thai girls who open their mouth and jabber on with their incoherent sentences, accompanied by that vocal fry. most of the time I can't even hear you bastards talk because you're so damn quiet.
I had the same problem too. people couldn't hear me. It was like I talked to myself, like I was afraid of my voice, what people might think, etc.
Americans don't have a problem with this, interestingly enough. if you compare foreigners to Americans, even in their native languages, the appalachian hick will have a lot more charisma than any chink or russian out there. though that might be because you "2nd world" morons think you're so special that you just bask in your misery and there is no space left for positivity. be more relaxed, being a poor doesn't mean you have to be miserable. look at Colombians, or any South American. they are dirt poor yet they are happy unlike you eastern european wienersuckers. this goes for any miserable sack of shit. I digress..
This book is an amazing introduction, and that's an understatement. if you want to win, you have to present to people. you are a human and that is your function, to talk to people and socialize. and so you can't run away from that.
also, mystery method by mystery(it's a book) to get pussy. he's the G O A T. good luck. don't overlook this. I'm not the type to give empty advice. if you've never held a woman's hand before or felt a girl's kiss, mystery method will save you. it's like 200 pages and the guy explains it so well that I got a girl in a week after reading it. then again, I was born handsome, but you don't have to be too pretty to get pussy. you just have to be SEEN as pretty. eye of the beholder
Looked at a few pages, reads like any other PUA nonsense. If you have to read a book about how to talk to women its already over for you
Lindyman is right about dating advice. It's literally all bullshit and all women are different. Really the only two things to keep in mind are (1) leave IQfy and (2) don't overthink.
its easy for him to say he's relentlessly handsome