ITT: Good tech that's also overrated

I will start with Obsidian.
It's a good WYSIWYG markdown note taking app that lets you embed and see images in the editor, but people sell it like it's a second brain and that it's revolutionized note taking somehow.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ability for hierarchical file organization and smart hyperlinking between documents are pretty nice.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >smart hyperlinking
      I haven't had the opportunity to use that feature but I can see it being pretty useful for building your own wiki.
      But except for that feature, embedding images and showing you formatted markdown, it's basically the same as using VSCode and creating the files yourself.
      Not to say it's not nice, but not the second coming of Christ.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It isn't, but when should one ever listen to "lifestyle" "productivity" "gurus" anyway? if it works for your use case, then great. otherwise, just look for something else.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are people here too stupid to use Org-Mode or something?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My hands couldn’t cope with emacs cramp

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did you rebind your capslock to CTRL? I'd kill myself otherwise

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Org-Mode
        I'm still not even quite sure what that is. I just know it's Linux Emacs homosexualry.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is it good for RTL?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Logseq does that for free(dom).

      It isn't, but when should one ever listen to "lifestyle" "productivity" "gurus" anyway? if it works for your use case, then great. otherwise, just look for something else.

      Logseq for notes
      Todo.txt for tasks
      CalDAV on NextCloud for calendar sync
      Thunderbird for calendar

      Very original reaction. You got me so good.

      I like small phones.

      Get a bigger hand

      TiddlyWiki, anon. Rivals and exceeds it.

      I went Evernote>Keep>Joplin>Obsidian>Logseq. Is there any reason you'd recommend switching to TiddlyWiki?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Logseq does that for free(dom).

        I don't recall Logseq being able to organize pages hierarchically into folders like Obsidian, everything was all in one single bucket.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Logseq allows you to break your notes into pages, and then there are bullets within each page, but there aren't any folders (although you can get somewhat close with namespaces). It's kind of halfway between Obisdian and something like Workflowy or Tana, where everything is stored in one giant document.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe in notetaking.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And it's a proprietary blob

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is this? I have installer in my Torrents folder for some reason but never bothered to install it

    Is it a meme-organizer made in Electron?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a note taking app made in Electron.

      It isn't, but when should one ever listen to "lifestyle" "productivity" "gurus" anyway? if it works for your use case, then great. otherwise, just look for something else.

      Based.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im looking for a scheduler/organizer app. I remember a year ago someone here recommended something god but I lost the name of it

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the only note taking app I've actually been able to stick with. Before I just made hundreds of text files.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I went from pile of text files > OneNote > Obsidian and now back to piles of text files and spreadsheets. I enjoyed OneNote but disliked the lack of plain text and the cloud-only environment. I found Obsidian too wanky, edgy and over-engineered for my needs. Also fugly dull webshit UI which none of the available themes improved at all

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Joplin is great, I dig the web clipping addon aswell.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obsidian is CIA spyware. John Hammond confirmed it like 2 months ago.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assumed if all the IQfyuys were using it they must have wiresharked it to make sure this wasn't a thing... I thought too highly of this basket weaving forum once again

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        homie barely half these gays know how to code, let alone validate their network connections

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    unzippr.com

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obsidian is pretty good have a few normie friends that use it for Uni. It can also embed LaTeX which is quite nice.

    I use org-mode and love it but also think it is a bit overrated. It is pretty much the same thing as with obsidian but instead of
    >muh entrepreneur/gigachad/life coach selling you obsidian as a second brain
    it is
    >muh techbro that definitely is not a normie in disguise selling you on org-mode

    Still it is very good especially all the integrations it has with emacs (you can find a package for everything) and I use it daily. + Org Agenda is better than any calendar change my mind

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anything rivaling it in the open source world? Apart from Logseq that I read it has weird local and sync issues that delete your stuff

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      TiddlyWiki, anon. Rivals and exceeds it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've tried using Joplin but the interface felt janky, the WYSIWYG mode wasn't as good and it didn't let me pick a custom directory to keep the data.
      Also (this is very nitpicky, but) it maps ctrl-s to opening the data sync screen to their paid service, and since I'm used to pressing ctrl-s while typing, I just kept opening it.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    transmission.
    it's fine, it works, not the end of the road for bittorrent clients, though. it's full of bugs including some that cause massive files to download twice, which sucks ass.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its like too much work to be honest.
    why would i organize my life and thoughts and shit when its 9 to 5 6 days a week and when i get home the only thing i want to do is to play games and compile shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >when i get home the only thing i want to do is to play games and compile shit
      Based Gentoo user

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we live in a world where for such basic cable task like notetaking they ship 500mb app which eats another 500mb of memory

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Luxurious times indeed. Put those transistors to work. We got billions of them.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people call everything 'technology'?
    How exactly is Obsidian *a* technology?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    when I wish to remember something, I simply use my memory instead of writing it in a note

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I checked all my stupid little rectangles, now I can get the green check and a sound effect.
      Indeed, most of these "productivity" apps are useless, they just make you feel productive, while you're still a loser.

      >I woke up, meditated for 10 minutes, then started my gratitude journaling...
      It's just mental masturbation, you don't improve, it's like running on a treadmill, you feel the heat and movement but you're still on your place.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're thinking about starting a personal knowledge base, try TiddlyWiki! It's FOSS, infinitely customizable, and the entire thing runs locally and offline (without needing hosting).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Found this one recently: https://vitepress.dev/
      This is based on it: https://wiki.nikiv.dev/free
      Kind of cool ngl

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do people really buy into this?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The free stuff has a bunch of good links, so I'd say yes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Found this one recently: https://vitepress.dev/
      This is based on it: https://wiki.nikiv.dev/free
      Kind of cool ngl

      here. Holy shit that thing is versatile as frick.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It use it to draft and writes articles. It has a nice, but kinda buggy, plugin for that, Longform.
    The issue with Obsidian is that it's easy to get lost in the weeds. If you add couple of plugins and keep it simple (I know how it sounds, anon), it can be a very useful writing tool.
    I use it with Focus mode plugin and write away.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It'd be great if Sync wasn't $10/mo and didn't suck shit. About once a month it has a conflict, if I move my notes location, it completely breaks.

    Way overpriced. If it was like $3/mo I'd pay it for life. But after about a year of it, I'm looking for alternatives.

    The way it handles images and attachments are annoying. Just dumping images in an Attachments folder and if I ever delete that image, I need to install a 3rd party plugin to scan for orphaned image files.

    Tables finally got somewhat decent yet they still kind of suck?

    Why do the lists suck so bad too? No drag and drop on lists is insane. Why does edit mode and read mode look completely different?

    I want to enjoy the benefits of having .md files on my computer, but everything else about it sucks too hard. As long as I can make a monthly backup to my NAS of my notes from whatever app I use, that's fine. I'll recreate the 50 or so notes I actually keep in about an hour on any other app and take the L on the month of changes I lost.

    Besides, creating a personal knowledge brain/wiki or whatever is so overrated. I've been doing it for years. I realized at a certain point, I never once looked back on my notes. I was just hoarding. I eventually just deleted like 80% of my notes or moved them to cold storage on my NAS. Big surprise, I'm just as productive in life.

    There really is a huge market for productivity these days. They want you to think you need this. You really don't. Digital hoarding is real and stupid.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Joplin could be up your alley since it has much, much better sync options. Sadly it doesn't store notes in pure .md, you gotta export it from the app.
      Nonetheless, if you have your own NAS then Joplin could be up your alley.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Syncthing is free, fellow poorgay

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I use Syncthing, it just sucks on iOS devices. It's a battery drain.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >iOS devices
          Hahahhahahahhahahahaha

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Very original reaction. You got me so good.

            I like small phones.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hear there is an addon that lets you keep your data on Github.
      You could always use Dropbox/Mega/etc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There really is a huge market for productivity these days. They want you to think you need this. You really don't. Digital hoarding is real and stupid.
      It's all Mental Masturbation

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started using Notion and I think I like it more than obsidian honestly

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good luck with all your notes and data when you can't even extract them in a usable format.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.notion.so/help/export-your-content

        Plenty of reasons why Notion sucks, but you can export your workspace pretty easily. Even in markdown format. I'm sure it may export a bit wonky, but you can probably rebuild it without much loss in an afternoon in any other app.

        As long as you have some sort of exit plan and some semblance of backups to rebuild with, most apps are fine.

        If you're that concerned, just use pen and paper.

        Obsidian and other markdown solution users love to brag about the storage format but I don't know anyone who's actually lost all of their iCloud Notes, Google Docs, Notion, Evernote, or whatever. If you're storing more than like 100 notes you actually use, you're a hoarder. If you want to migrate, it wouldn't take more than an hour to manually copy/paste each individual note to a new app. If the app/service goes down, well I hope you were making backups and most of these apps can do that.

        The only valid use I can think of with Obsidian is Dungeon Masters, fiction writers, and world builders.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Obsidian
    Just use pen and paper. The only reason I can find to use technology in this case, is archiving, sharing, and editing.

    If it's just learning notes, it's better to use pen and paper (if the learning subject isn't technology itself.)

    >stfu boomer
    You can keep trying all of the BS taking productivity trash, you will not find anything better than pen and paper. You can literally make it your own, and then (if you want, and it's something worth it) you can archive it (scan it or rewrite it) in an HDD/NAS.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Software
      The only valid use of note-taking software is to archive, share, and edit. Anything else is just useless and unusable.

      Just use pen and paper, and buy an archive, and separate notes based on subjects. Then (if you want, and it's worth it) rewrite your notes or scan them to digitalize them.

      >b-but second brain
      You don't need a second brain idiot. does people can't use their brains, organizing thoughts managing, and manipulating them is the main purpose of the brain. Do you think the greatest minds of all history used Obsidian or Notion? wake up.

      I made this meme, but they don't let me upload it (frick you IQfy).https://files.catbox.moe/7lojzn.png

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: Good tech that's also overrated
    >only a few examples in the whole thread
    JFC, this board is so shit...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry we can't all entertain you with our collaborative list of "good tech that's also overrated", such a great topic that we all can think of hundreds of examples of. Since I assume you can also think of a hundred examples of this, why don't you share a few of them instead of b***hing?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        because I don't use overrated software? for taking notes I use cherrytree. I use browsers for browsing and analyzing/debugging websites/webapps/servers, and a bunch of other tools for my job that are actually useful and feature rich, features that I actually use.
        I'm not even the OP, I came to this thread because I wanted to see what crap software I needed to try or to avoid. I found only a few examples of stuff that could be useful ITT, which sucks. but this is IQfy, so, nothing unexpected.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I use obsidian but I could do the same shit with regular text files
    I don't use any of the hyperlinking, second brain, graph shit
    why bother putting that much effort when I can just ask an LLM to do it for me lmao
    even local LLMs are probably good enough for that these days

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I could not fanthom why people are using Obsidian, a service that could shut down at any moment. Imagine taking notes all your life on it, everything from lecture notes, account credentials, family photos, next thing you know all of them are gone and locked to their service.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have no idea what you're talking about.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please enlighten me, I am not being sarcastic, I truly have no idea.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't even use obsidian but am pretty sure your notes are stored locally in an open format. Nta

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bruh obsidian stores your files locally in plaintext

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >overcomplicating simple notetaking
    >good tech
    Frick eceleb fotm fads and grifter "influencers"

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