Ignoring all the bs of this book, is it actually a fun and entertaining story? I'm not interested in the 'secrets' and hidden meaning behind the references.
bloom's chapters are fun
stephen's chapters (like the first two) are boring, mainly because stephen is an annoying c**t, and thats because Joyce used him to make fun of himself
later on he uses bloom to highlight the side of himself he likes
No, it's intellectual masturbation. It's like sitting at a literature professor's dinner party and they're playing a game where everyone has to speak as if they're from a specific literary genre
The opening isn't great in my opinion. (Mainly because Mulligan is annoying.) There are lots of better bits later.
Try reading the beginning of Bloom's day. ("Mr Leopold Bloom ate with relish..."). It's just magnificent. The way he feeds the cat, gets breakfast-in-bed for his wife, thinks about stuff, etc. It's very easy reading but you imagine and see and taste and smell everything. And Bloom's thoughts are done as briefly as possible, almost like shorthand, but you're right there with him.
Some bits of the book are hard going, others not. As Anthony Burgess said, the language is always very much THERE, in your face, like a big dog in a small room. If you get annoyed or intimidated by it or try to just hurry through it to get to the "real stuff", it isn't going to work. You have to not take it too seriously. Skip bits if you want to. Look things up if you must but don't feel obliged to understand everything.
guy who aint fricking his wife and being submissive to her learns to grow his balls and tell his wife what to do and it's implied they're gonna frick soon because of it. Bloom gets his groove back
To explore life in modernity and all that means. The lessons and morals would be personal and not built into the novel; Joyce does not preach, he provides the tools and the contexts the reader needs to learn something about their own life and existence. This is SOP for the modernists and the entire idea of having a concrete point/moral was viewed as reductive, life is generally not as clear cut and simple as Aesop would have liked it to be, the modernists embraced and exploited the complexity and messiness of life.
iktf bro these frickin old honkies talked a lot of shit but coulda they have made a fisher price version for the laymen? brothers wont give a dog a bone.
jk james joyce fricking sucks he's easily the most agonizing classical writer I would rather read frickin andy cohan's autobiography than this shit
>be me >working at community access television station >the kind that shows local church services >coworker buddy got me the job >two man videography team >assigned to record/edit/broadcast something >at local library >it's some guy talking about james joyce' ulysses >for an entire week >absolute snorefest >old ladies eating it up >listen to this guy >flip through the book >pretentious, meandering garbage >clearly just more israeli nonsense >google james joyce >goddamned semiphile >this book has neither purpose nor merit >neither of us needs to be here for all of these >coworking buddy on the job with me agrees >we split the days between us >i film on some days >he films on the others >lol he actually fails to show up for one day >lol 'muh uh-larm klok didn't go off' >whatever >public access station only has like 4/5 segments to air >frick it >push it >there may have been complaints
Honestly, the best use for Ulysses by James Joyce is to prop something else up, like a copy of Finnegan's Wake, which is equally useless.
But, whatever, it's not like anyone's forcing anyone to read this overwrought trash.
My advice:
Don't try to consciously comprehend all of it. Ulysses is first and foremost to me an encyclopedia of prose style. Enjoy the sound and impression of the prose and let it wash over you, don't stop too often to try and unpuzzle things.
To help you do the above, before starting each chapter, read the chapter plot summary on wikipedia, so you understand the gist of what's going on.
There are tons of guides to help you. It is not an easy book, so don't beat yourself up about it.
https://www.ulyssesguide.com/1-telemachus
Who's bright idea was it to write a book that requires another book to read
james joyce's
make yourself worthy or go read colleen hoover
>Stately,
Stopped reading there. Not going to read a book full of made up words.
Ignoring all the bs of this book, is it actually a fun and entertaining story? I'm not interested in the 'secrets' and hidden meaning behind the references.
If you like literature, it is fun and entertaining. If you're looking for breasts and explosions, it does have breasts in it, but no explosions.
what about when bloom exploded on the beach
Offset by the earlier "the limp father of thousands," “a languid floating flower.” Can't take any supposed "explosion" seriously after that.
bloom's chapters are fun
stephen's chapters (like the first two) are boring, mainly because stephen is an annoying c**t, and thats because Joyce used him to make fun of himself
later on he uses bloom to highlight the side of himself he likes
Proteus is the best chapter in the book and likely the finest bit of stream of consciousness ever put to paper.
There's no story really, so if you are a plotgay you shouldn't bother
No, it's intellectual masturbation. It's like sitting at a literature professor's dinner party and they're playing a game where everyone has to speak as if they're from a specific literary genre
The opening isn't great in my opinion. (Mainly because Mulligan is annoying.) There are lots of better bits later.
Try reading the beginning of Bloom's day. ("Mr Leopold Bloom ate with relish..."). It's just magnificent. The way he feeds the cat, gets breakfast-in-bed for his wife, thinks about stuff, etc. It's very easy reading but you imagine and see and taste and smell everything. And Bloom's thoughts are done as briefly as possible, almost like shorthand, but you're right there with him.
Some bits of the book are hard going, others not. As Anthony Burgess said, the language is always very much THERE, in your face, like a big dog in a small room. If you get annoyed or intimidated by it or try to just hurry through it to get to the "real stuff", it isn't going to work. You have to not take it too seriously. Skip bits if you want to. Look things up if you must but don't feel obliged to understand everything.
What's the point/moral of the story?
So what's the point of reading it? Why did Joyce write it?
guy who aint fricking his wife and being submissive to her learns to grow his balls and tell his wife what to do and it's implied they're gonna frick soon because of it. Bloom gets his groove back
To explore life in modernity and all that means. The lessons and morals would be personal and not built into the novel; Joyce does not preach, he provides the tools and the contexts the reader needs to learn something about their own life and existence. This is SOP for the modernists and the entire idea of having a concrete point/moral was viewed as reductive, life is generally not as clear cut and simple as Aesop would have liked it to be, the modernists embraced and exploited the complexity and messiness of life.
>modernity
>pedantry
iktf bro these frickin old honkies talked a lot of shit but coulda they have made a fisher price version for the laymen? brothers wont give a dog a bone.
jk james joyce fricking sucks he's easily the most agonizing classical writer I would rather read frickin andy cohan's autobiography than this shit
Welcome to reading
>be me
>working at community access television station
>the kind that shows local church services
>coworker buddy got me the job
>two man videography team
>assigned to record/edit/broadcast something
>at local library
>it's some guy talking about james joyce' ulysses
>for an entire week
>absolute snorefest
>old ladies eating it up
>listen to this guy
>flip through the book
>pretentious, meandering garbage
>clearly just more israeli nonsense
>google james joyce
>goddamned semiphile
>this book has neither purpose nor merit
>neither of us needs to be here for all of these
>coworking buddy on the job with me agrees
>we split the days between us
>i film on some days
>he films on the others
>lol he actually fails to show up for one day
>lol 'muh uh-larm klok didn't go off'
>whatever
>public access station only has like 4/5 segments to air
>frick it
>push it
>there may have been complaints
Honestly, the best use for Ulysses by James Joyce is to prop something else up, like a copy of Finnegan's Wake, which is equally useless.
But, whatever, it's not like anyone's forcing anyone to read this overwrought trash.
My advice:
Don't try to consciously comprehend all of it. Ulysses is first and foremost to me an encyclopedia of prose style. Enjoy the sound and impression of the prose and let it wash over you, don't stop too often to try and unpuzzle things.
To help you do the above, before starting each chapter, read the chapter plot summary on wikipedia, so you understand the gist of what's going on.
>oirish