>Junior Java Developer
>Requirements (mandatory):
> 3+ years proven experience developing in Java
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>Junior Java Developer. >Requirements (mandatory):. > 3+ years proven experience developing in Java
this is prevalent in every tech job, not just programming
these requirements should be against the law tbh
Your hire is not needed.
protip: "Junior" doesn't mean "Beginner"
Junior absolutely meant beginner in the entire history of the tech sector until 2022.
No.
Yes, my first position was a Junior with 0 working experience.
I say apply anyway and if they ask about experience ask
>What experience? This is Junior position.
seething beginner
kek, no
it means they don't expect as much from you and they may assist you in your tasks.
they don't want to teach you programming, they want to use your output to make money
git gud
>they don't want to teach you programming, they want to use your output to make money
I already know how to program, know Java and a dozen other languages, and I can pick up Spring Boot or whatever pajeet framework your company uses. I just don't have the work experience, hence the fricking junior title.
>know how to program, know over a dozen languages
Then you should be lying. Invent a job where you did all that stuff. Rehearse your larps about how you interact with people by studying interview questions. It was a highly independent job which you enjoyed, it gave you a lot of opportunity to learn and take initiative. The purpose of the resume is to get you past the auto-filter and HR roastie scan. The purpose of the interview is to make them think you can do the job. If you can do the job, any means necessary to pass the first step is justified.
what if they ask for references? don't most of them do a background check?
>references
Have friends or family who will larp for you, be your own reference with fake phone numbers, etc, they don't call anyway. I don't think anyone has ever checked my references ever. Background checks also typically only cover criminal and maybe financial history like if you have felony convictions and spent 5 years in jail and owe $18k in payday loans they will find that out. Employment history checks are possible but not common. Lying is always best. The alternatives are:
>Don't lie. No one looks at your resume, you never talk to anyone. You don't get hired.
>Lie. People see your resume, MAYBE they check your references and work history, or MAYBE you get caught larping in the interview (your own fault and you can play it off by being socially anxious and blanking in the interview setting - this is true anyway). If they don't catch you, you're hired.
It's not like it's illegal to lie on a job application or like you're going to get mega blacklisted from the entire industry if somebody finds out you made up a job. It's better to lie and gamble on not getting caught, that way you have a chance. If you don't lie you have no chance.
What you really want are trainee positions. Juniors are experienced but not as experienced as a senior.
Think of it as the Junior year in high school.
Junior literally means zero (0) experience
Pro-tip: "proven" does not mean "you cannot make it up"
Then they're using the word "junior" incorrectly.
3 years is nothing you dunning kruger moron
the absolute state of IQfy
elaborate
I assume that's you. try reading the OP again.
If I have to write me CV, which I do, it means nothing for real. I can write that my name is Dagoth Urr and I have 100 years of experience in Java. What a grand and entoxicating innocence to think that only one side of a tech job interview can bullshit.
I am a java programmer, you cannot kill a java programmer!
give it up. buy coveralls and kneepads and copenhagen
It's over. They want to pay junior salary to mid level engineers. Worst part is the market is so oversaturated they'll probably get it
It is literally a shittest, very sort of ”head down follow orders” people won’t apply, and companies don’t want lapdogs they want developers who can work independently
Wasn’t it tech lead that spilled the truth on when he was hiring at google and he said something to the effect of ”Before they even did the technical review, within the first 2 minutes of talking to the person he had decided if they would be a good fit”?
Just apply
>paragraphs of garbage I ain't readin
This is a correct first post and moronic reply. These posts are not that long and correct. you should reading.
> (Me)
>you should reading
I am sorry anon that what you wrote is correct but some giga moron is attacking u
If companies lie about their requirements, what else would they lie about?
The reality is recruiting firms have to justify their existence (make believe email job) so when companies hire recruiters to ”find talent” they make garbage like this, and keep the ads around for 3-4 months to collect payroll, then when eventually the higher ups get pissed and ask for results they ease the requirements and hire purely on interview without any of the monkey see monkey do jumping through hoops
Human Resources, Recruiters, all this shit is longhoused to the maximum, a plague of postmodernist society, but one you will have to learn how to deal with
How long will it take for you morons to understand that it's OVER. FINISHED. Just stop and go do something else.
your internships?
your projects?
>UHHH but what about your uni time goy? You spent your time actually focusing on your studies? Why didn't you snort adderall and work 3 gigs at startups and write a compiler in your free time (for free) that we can use? Hmm? You ever thought about how you actually owe US money for wanting to work for us? Now please do this 4 hours debugging ''test'' for this position, no it's not unpaid work golem, get to work!
I'm glad to hear the world is filtering homosexuals who can't do the things I listed. stay jobless, NEET.
I have those. Where the frick are the jobs
Java seems to be harder than you idiots thought. Stay with python like a billion pajeets
Sorry, you missed the train. Consider some other career, there should be some vacancies at McDonalds.
Just apply Black person. Takes maybe a minute. The "requirements" are more akin to a wishlist
I did a very impressive Java project in my last year in uni and also did a shitload of side projects, also interned for a year. Doesn't mean dick on my resume since the roastie toastie recruiter sends it straight to the shredder along with 1,0000,0000,0000 pajeet applications.
AT LEAST GIVE ME A CHANCE TO INTERVIEW EVEN IF YOURE GOING TO DENY ME FRICKING Black folk I HAVENT RECIEVED A SINGLE CALL
How do "java developer" jobs compare to front end webdev jobs? Are they just backend web jobs or do you maintain some old codebase that's invisible to clients?
90% of software is legacy shit from 2000's or early 10's, when Java was at its peak. They're maintaining some FactoryUniverseSingleton of hot garbage that some corporation somewhere relies on for everything.
Hell no, if it's backend it's usually Spring/Spring Boot + SQL/MongoDB and Kafka/Redis. That's the 90% of Java jobs.
He was asking about java in general. Most of Java is not back-end web dev.
So which one is better for getting my foot in the door this year? Learning full-stack or just spam applying junior java jobs?
>So which one is better for getting my foot in the door this year?
Front-end web dev and then you move to back-end as soon as you can.
thank you anon
No problem. Don't stop applying once you land a job by the way. Remember, they'll be friendly and tell you all those sweet nothings but your turnover rate is only a few years and they know it. Don't ever pass the chance to get paid more.
glad to see good advice on IQfy for once
Also never do full stack, it's like doing two jobs for the same salary. Front end rots the brains lol.
I'm a front end designer. I've been employed for 20 years with the last decade serving as a creative director until the company went under. In every posting they want "expertise in Figma", which is only a recent development, and only applicable to teams that are already using it. How am I supposed to even use the fricking software for communicating with design teams while I'm fricking unemployed, dip shits. I'm applying to fricking junior level jobs. Frick this gay earth.
FIGMA DEEZ NUTS
Being real just fricking use it yourself and then lie on your resume. IQfy's problem is that they don't try to game the system obviously gaming them.
figma isnt even hard Black person kys
I didn't say it was hard, I just feel that it is fricking gay
I used Figma only in my last Black person comapny. Now I use Penpot, but they do not like it even though for a dev it is the same.
what tools did u use
If you're a dev you're not supposed to do stuff in Figma far beyond exploring a design and make comments.
If they demand you to also design, it's because they're so cheap they can't hire a real designer to do a good job.
>learn basics of Java in year 1 of university
>have 3 years to make projects and shit
>don't
That's not experience by recruiter standard, ABSOLUTE moron. It means JOB EXPERIENCE.
>BBBBUT U HAVE TO STUDY LEETCODE AND DO PROJECTS IN UR FREE TIME
No, some people have social life, loser incel.
>having a social life
You're supposed to do that after you're actually wealthy because all of your friends are dead weight and will hate you once you become successful.
Yeah you sound like a coping 40yo that earns 6 figures but still doesn't enjoy life at all lol. I can earn 90% of your salary and still have friends and family while you're working unpaid overtime for Mr Shekelberg for an annual 5% salary increase lol. Leetcode more and write more useless projects, you literal loser. No matter how much money you have ppl will look down on you.
No, I have good friends and enjoy my life. Successful people like to be around and attract other successful people. People who are unsuccessful will naturally become jealous and spiteful unless they're atypical. A lot of the time, first, they end up stuck with some dead end job and have kids. They stop talking with you or you just become them before they do and you stop talking to them.
Many people have been in your shoes and thought exactly what you think right now. You're not special and you're going to find out very fast that you're also incredibly naive.
or just lie. If you have friends, you have social skills and you know that in social words 1+1 may as well be 3 sometimes.
Pajeets lying on resumes is causing huge resume inflation. Anyone who gets a first job is faking that they already have experience.
I don't know what to tell you, I don't lie to people, and being honest never got me anything. I think we should deport all Indians and strike down all our 'civil rights' laws. But as for how to make a living, I have nothing to say, it's not something I know anything about. Good luck.
making a living is easy
Step 1. fake mental illness (wear a dress as a man for ez mode)
Step 2. Apply for welfare
Step 3. Get disability benefits on top of it
Step 4. Be a lazy neet for the rest of your life and stop participating in dogshit system.
I have not one but TWO actually debilitating conditions, and I haven't applied for disability because the money wouldn't even be enough to cover half the rent, and that's assuming they actually approve fricking benefits. You either live in some european utopia or have no idea how useless welfare is in the US. The so-called "welfare queens" here live in meth frenzy trailer parks or roach infested projects full of crack fiends and daily shootouts, and they can only afford those after popping out at least 3 children with some ugly alcoholic hag. I'd rather kill myself.
last I checked minimal salary in the UK was around 400 pounts lower than being a wellfare queen. This is under the conditions you work 8 hours per day, 5 days per week. As for being a welfare queen - very easy for women and for muzzies but as a white man you have to make shit up.
you went to school for four years, right? badda bing, badda boom
Doesn't count nor do internships.
lie.
And this behavior is what keeps the industry demanding more and more for entry level positions.
100 years java experience, 1000 rust java mastership, all kernels ever written are by me. My name? You know my name - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1mccFqEUuU - Tod Howard
ALL OF YOU ARE homosexualS.
I AM NOT EVEN INDIAN AND I AM AN AUTIST AND I GOT MY FIRST JOB LIE-ING
How come Tod Howard can sell games to millions for 20 years by lie-ing but you cannot? You want to be in the industry right? Listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFcLyDb6niA and learn from Tod Howard.
Lying is based, I'm at minimum inflating my resume by a couple years of experience, erasing employment gaps, claiming i lost a job to covid when i got fired. I'm lying about what ive used on the job. im lying about what i did altogether. its fricking made up
Same. 100% the same. Not even Indian but just adding 3 years of experience like it is nothing. If I was Indian I would lie at minimum starting with 5 years. If this is the world employers want to live in, then this is what they will get.
I literally have a poster of Tod Howard on my desktop every time I am looking for a job. It gives me the ability to promise a lot and convince morons to hire me.
>make a hello world on github for every single programming language
>when HR karens ask me to "prove" that I've been developing forr 3 years in <language> then I can just point to that
>they won't know the difference between hello world and a real project anyway lol
STOP MAKING THESE THREADS
JUST LIE ON YOUR RESUME
DO YOU ONLY HAVE 6 MONTHS OF EXPERIENCE?
LITERALLY
JUST
WRITE
3 YEARS
WRITE WHATEVER YOU WANT NOBODY CARES
WORST CASE SCENARIO YOU DON'T GET THE JOB THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANYWAY
APPLY YOURSELFFFFFFFFFFFF
>(only do this if you have the skills to back up your lies)
anon, no need to scream. we are all having 20 years of rust experience already.
>everyone lies on their resume in order to meet inflated requirements
>"technical" interviews can be passed by memorizing Leetcode problems
Sooner or later this shit is going to break. Some major webhost like AWS is going to have an outage caused by garbage code that can't be fixed by the rollback button, and there isn't going to be anyone around who knows how to fix it because the entire oncall team is people with no coding experience outside Leetcode brain teasers.
Wait until you find out it's like this in medicine, mech/aero/civil engineering, basically everything you can think of. Website outages are going to be the least of it.
Gee, it's almost like employers ought to stop being cutthroat morons that discourage loyalty and avoid training their employees at all costs
That like sounds real easy though, just make some bullshit side-project in java