>just be nice to people and make them feel important
>this is the most groundbreaking social literature to exist
Are people really this stupid?
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>How to get walked all over & be a passive runner-up in life
Well what would you recommend differently than the book?
be good looking and mysterious
Have you googled a picture of the author? What the frick does that guy know about seducing women? All you need to do is be attractive.
He is an ugly fricker. Now google his wife.
His wife is mid at best.
His wife is a 50 year old asiatic. This is like those subuman 90 IQ morons who brag about bedding roasties in SEAmonkey land.
>How to be Chad and Mog People
Seriously some of the most popular people I know are buttholes, they're just better looking than normal people.
The same buttholes I’m sure are “lovely people” to the people who matter to them when it comes to climbing the ladder.
>"Oh, hes actually really sweet in private!"
>Are people really this stupid?
Yes
If that's your take you are unironically mentally handicapped. Seek help
>t. doormat
Go check your IQ, you don't want to be one of those dumb guys that thinks they are smart.
>Are people really this stupid?
The proof of statement in first post. That was fast. meany people like are even more stupid then that.
Exactly. You do this shit and people will view you as a soft touch, constantly looking to make a sucker out of you. By the time the book came out it was already obsolete, the world changed.
>Exactly. You do this shit and people will view you as a soft touch, constantly looking to make a sucker out of you.
Thats the point you get people to underestimate you so they dont view you as a potential rival or threat but as a good addition to their own power base so they would prefer to choose you over others such as when choosing someone to promote.
main character syndrome at ATH so yea pretty much, see for proof
Yes, it's the same with dress to impress. It works because normies are extremely shallow people.
Although the advice in this book is good and actionable and works. Remembering people's names and shit like that goes pretty far.
>caring about dressing nice must mean you’re shallow
lol you’re either still in your angsty years or some neckbeard that never grew up.
You under estimate how many people had bad parents that didn't teach them anything besides "follow your dreams and you will succeed".
you had better parents giving you the book of dale carnegie right kek
>My son you have to suck dicks every day to climb the ladder
We all gotta start somewhere anon. Better to learn the hard way that being everyone's friend is terrible idea than to never learn at all.
If you were in charge of a company would you rather promote the ass kisser or the moron who argues with you all the time though?
id def not promote the asskisser, id promote the person that actually made sense. i hate asslickers
Thats just you, 99% of people dont someone who can challenge their authority.
exactly and thats just showing how lowl you people are that you need constant ego strokes even though its obviously not even real and the people do it for one reason only
Im not the one who needs constant ego strokes but it turns out that stroking egos makes people like you more.
NEPO BABBY babel has traveled from IQfy
and the Blue Lard translation controversy to
/biz/.
NEPOBABYPHOBIA it has to stop.
>My son you have to suck dicks every day to climb the ladder
>remembering people's names is sucking people's dicks
Holy shit and I thought I was autistic
You have to suck the dick of the guy who has the power to promote you. At the end of the day, promotions are given to those who are trusted, likable and competent. Trust and likeability are far more important than competence in most situations.
If you look like your boss' son, that also helps a lot. At the end of the day, we instinctively want to give power to those we have a connection with, our 'kind'. It carries the least risk. Losing power is the risk. All bosses when they are considering promoting people are thinking, either consciously or unconsciously, "is promoting this guy going to give me more power, or take it away from me?"
its called nepotism
and its not good and its what you people complain about israelites doing
hypocricy at its best
Nepotism is a neutral thing. It's neither good or bad.
its why the world is how it is today, few ultra rich families control the world
you have a big ego homosexual
Have you read the book? Be honest.
yes why does it matter its literally what op wrote in op
im sure the name jesus rings a bell in your peabrain
>yes why does it matter
Because if you just have a different take that is cool. I didn't want to be arguing with someone who hadn't even read the thing.
We're not talking about nepotism you moron, if you have two employees, one a complete ass kisser, and another the most competent employee youve ever had, the ass kisser will be the one promoted because the ass kisser will be a good loyal addition to your power will the competent employee posses a threat for you and may take your position one day. Its basic human nature, self preservation is the most important thing to anyone.
not all humans are selfish egoistic boomer Black folk i hope
Sure keep telling yourself that.
Le self esteem
Yep and that bullshit still works. Be semi competent at your job and blow smoke up peoples asses and you’ll be prompted like no tomorrow.
Has worked, will work and will continue to work. No one wants to work with asspies.
Honestly the biggest takeaway from it was how people will never acknowledge theyre wrong, its amazing the amount of morons who start arguments for no reason.
Yeah I actually learned a lot from the book. It reinforces ideas that I know exist like it's not worth arguing with most people as they don't often change their mind and will only hate you for it.
more like what this shows is that companies are lead by low IQ egomaniacs who love to have their egos jacked off
not a good sign
i do prefer honesty over asskissing and integrity over lies
Its just basic human nature nobody wants someone who can surpass them and everybody wants to feel better than everyone else. This book combined with the other one makes it all make sense.
so true sir you showed me intelligence ive never seen before sir im in awe
What you're showing is you haven't read the book or understood it's message and are assuming/projecting a bunch of nonsense to get upset about
so true im baffled at your intelligent post i hope one day i will be as smart as you sir
I'm truly baffled at your moronation
You're proving yourself to be the bigger fool, you envy their post and believe you would run it better and you see yourself as achieving that position by (in le head) convincing them that what has allowed them to steer their ship this far ain't gonna cut it anymore, and that they should hand the reins to someone who 'knows what he's doing'.
A large portion of the population has no idea how to effectively talk to people outside of basic conversational topics. This isn't anything new.
Just be extroverted, dude. Remember everybody's name! Manipulate people discreetly to your advantage faking interest in whatever bullshit they like! Make them feel inteligent! Listen listen listen! never contradict! Don't forget le smile!
It should be renamed "an autists guide to navigating the workplace".
You dont even have to be extroverted just call people by their names, give compliments, and ask them questions to give them a chance to talk about themselves, even the most aspie autist can do that.
this book is mainstream, i would feel like a psychopath always saying their names, its like i only do it to get rewarded, thats not good
fuk that
youre a weasel and weasels were notoriously not ending well
Imagine calling people by their names all the time while you're a lv99 autistic awkward frick trying to do his best after reading carnegie hall's book, I should add attractive as well as extroverted in your desired features
Trying to be a nice sociable person as a lv99 autistic awkward frick is definitely better than an lv99 autistic awkward frick who isnt.
>Hi Tim, how are you?
>*spaghetti falls out of pocket*
The point is to be more interested in others and not a narcissistic misanthrope that tries to see the worst in everything. Almost everything in the book is natural to people aren’t selfish and are genuinely interested in others. It’s only a lie for you autists. The way of the world before modernity was like this. You would likely never forget peoples name, and most people you met were novel enough that you’d be interested in them. It’s how a lot of things were started. The internet made us skeptical of everyone and saturated our social tanks.
Being nice or kind is irrelevant in normie land. To win friends and be influential, the important thing is perseverance and discipline. By this I mean always being the available guy: a normie needs a favor, there you are; a normie wants to do a party, he knows he can count on you, etc.
Thats moronic and being an actual doormat, social skills are more important than any action you might take.
I haven't read the book, but, isn't that part of how women manipulate men and older people into giving them money, property and shit? like, they give compliments and stuff to make them feel better and slowly get in their lives, then suddenly the "targets" are signing papers and their whole family gets fricked in the ass by some random psychopath.
also, it's how spies get info from targets.
I think it's like most things, your intentions make what you do good or evil. Are you trying to get something from someone (in the business world I see no problem here) or just be a good person and make friends? Is your intentions of friendship genuine or to gain favours? Etc.
I mean, I don't care about making friends, stealing from someone or anything like that. but I've seen it happen, at least indirectly. also, I know I could do it if I wanted to. I'm tall and good looking, and some people usually think I'm trying to befriend them or some shit and invite me to eat with them or whatever. I don't care about social dynamics like that, I don't like owing people shit or having them owe me anything, I don't care about people at all, I'm an autist and just want to life a life without having to worry too much about problems.
also, I have a relatively well paid technical job that is a dead end career. if I wanted to go the corpo drone route, I'd have to become a manager, and I reaaaaally don't want that. plus, I don't think I'm prepared for that shit anyway.
>I'm an autist and just want to life a life without having to worry too much about problems
Tbh the book is for you. I'm not climbing ladders or any bullshit, just getting through my days without trouble.
Still.. pretty sure he's a manlet too
His laws of power book has some pretty good concepts I'll give him that.
People don't seem to understand that these books are guidelines and can get creative with it. Like you don't have to try to be friends with everyone but if you do these are good principles to follow.
>Like you don't have to try to be friends with everyone but if you do these are good principles to follow.
Exactly, same with most these books. There is usually a handful of actionable advice that suits you and your life and the rest can basically be ignored or stored in the memory for another day.
When people like you they are more lenient with you and will leave you alone. With influence over them you can influence them to leave you alone.
For me, this means in my job no one bothers me with bullshit, I get no menial tasks and 90% of my days I do nothing at all. Is the book to thank? Probably not, but I think some principles in it have helped create this situation for me.
I mean, I love solving problems... just not social problems. because frick people.
>Tbh the book is for you. I'm not climbing ladders or any bullshit, just getting through my days without trouble.
then why is its title "how to win friends and influence people?" I don't want that shit..
>ask questions
>remember the answers
>later reveal you still remember the answer
This is enough to blow the mind off most people
You don't understand nor fathom the extent of human moronation, when you're at a high s factor intelligence, normal humans seem like actual cattle in the way they have to brute force a 10th of your capabilities. Whenever someone has a major bearing on their memory, they'll dump it all and default to the easiest to understand course of action (in most social settings this means they will be rude or emotional without any future planning) This is called the Cognitive Load.
Buy Coreto homosexual
Shill us on Coreto it looks dead
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They are.
In one of the chapter he was talking about how he let his dog ran in park/forest chasing squirrels and it was illegal a police officer caught him. He let him go without a ticket after he sincerely apologized.
Basically, if you don’t act like a Black person, you will be a’riggt.
Yes.
there's an eminem lyric "make other people feel before they can feel you"
I'm literally autistic. This book was a total game changer for me.
anyone have nuggets on Think Rich Grow Rich
You probably are decently personable (or you had to learn how to be) so a lot of this seems so natural to you that its almost silly to see it written down. But a lot of people, smart, dumb, and in between, simply haven't been taught these things in a world that doesn't go out of its way to show them to you.
Its like when people on this board whine about Dave Ramsey books being super basic or Richest man in Babylon being a list of fundamentals. Sure that's true, but there are tons of people that need to get that first drink of anti-moron-juice and if they want to read it we need to be handing out free PDFs at the fricking DMV.
It was written by a pathological liar that ultimately had his train of bullshit catch up to him, so take that for what you will.
I'm not saying you're wrong for focusing on your own competence at work, but you also need to think about yourself as a complete bill of goods. Unless you are uniquely qualified (10 years of PLC programming, plus a PhD in chemistry and 5 years in pharma manufacturing) there are other people that can offer the same skill set that you can. The trick is differentiating yourself from that pack with your unusual ability to make people trust you, be willing to help you with tasks because you aided them first, and demonstrate that trusting you with a customer-facing-role won't be an complete cluster frick.
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>It was written by a pathological liar that ultimately had his train of bullshit catch up to him, so take that for what you will.
Was that catchup before or after the authoring of the book?
there is a 2nd option which is off the table for most people because they all cheated their entire way through life...
>dont suck at what you do
I used to do this my whole life then I read this book and kind of stopped idk why
>Are people really this stupid?
Most people are buttholes. Being 'nice' to them is easier said than fricking done.
Secondly, most people are losers. Making them feel 'important' could take some seriously hypnotic lines of bullshit.
Hence, the book. Essentially, how to gaslight morons, and advance your own interests in the process.