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new update when??
Next year. Death to all updooter scum.
probably this summer
you WILL updoot and you WILL enjoy it, CHUD
Mmmmh, updoots.
BTW, that update manager is written in Python.
>that update manager is written in Python.
*and it needs a "Deselect All" button, please!
Jesus Christ, just use the regular linux mint, the Debian edition is not for end users it's for devs
>the Debian edition is not for end users it's for devs
That is quite simply untrue.
It's actually quite good and suitable for desktop use.
>Jesus Christ, just use the regular linux mint, the Debian edition is not for end users it's for devs
I do it the other way around and use cinnamon w/ my Debian install.
Ah so that's why it sucks
It's honestly quite barebones, but it gets the job done of providing you a GUI for updates.
It also, due to being written in Python, is very easy to write and maintain, which is far more important in this case than performance.
Most of the execution time, the program is running apt commands, writing something like this in C or any other systems programming language is casting pearls before swine.
Python *is* the right tool for this job.
It does work. I like it.
I appreciate the Mint project.
that's for normies, most linuxtard swines on this site use arch, or gentoo
I'm not a normie, I work with computers, I just don't give enough of a shit to either endure Michaelsoft PajeetOS or hack my custom Linux shit together for what I do with it.
You can turn operating and knowing the ins and outs of a Linux system into a full-time job from the day you were born to the day you die, just like you'll (probably) never be finished watching ALL the YouTube videos if you ever set your sights on doing that.
I just need an OS that works, ideally, I even forget that I'm using it when I'm using it.
>I just need an OS that works, ideally, I even forget that I'm using it when I'm using it.
That means either windows or mac, you bloody swine.
Why do I need to add a repository to install software THAT WAS ADVERTISED IN THE INSTALLER
these buntu distros are a joke
And?
in other distros when I want to install something I type sudo install software
in these supposed beginner distros I have to google everything and run 5 different commands before I can install the program
There's literally a GUI for adding PPAs and what could you possibly need that exists outside of DPKG and Flatpak?
If you're doing some niche work,or just want something reproducible, then I guess i could understand Nix Package Manager, but at that point you should know how to run like three commands over the CLI.
What? I have never needed to manually add a repository, much less one that was advertised by the installer.
The only manually added repository I have is Wine, because Wine recommends it so, and some standalone .deb packages installed, which is basically the same like using an installer .exe in Windows for software you need.
What exactly do you want to install?
There's a software manager CODED BY THE MINT DEVS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE A COMMAND LINE, and that has all the Debian packages, the Mint packages on top of those and the Flatpak versions, offering almost full coverage of the Linux software ecosystem.
>The only manually added repository I have is Wine, because Wine recommends it so
There are, otherwise, also the Wine package(s) in the Debian repository, and for 95% of use-cases, these are sufficient and the Flatpak versions.
In the software manager in picrel, there are even three versions listed, since I manually added WineHQ's repository to my apt sources.
Yes, learning which of these packages to install (so that it automatically installs the other packages, which are most of the time dependencies) is a bit like learning which is the real download button when using Windows software.
You either get filtered or not.
Except, in Linux, at least, making a mistake on your end does not mean you have involved a malicious actor in your operating system.
they provide wine 6.0
why ship broken outdated garbage
Then use the Flatpak or read the Docs at WineHQ to install from their repository.
Also, that part is Debian's "fault."
And for non-meme Windows exclusive software, like submitting and filing tax reports, Wine 6.0 is absolutely sufficient.
If you're using games and a normie, just use Steam, sometimes you gotta force the usage of a certain Proton version, but otherwise, that shit works OOTB.
There are some Linux oddities, like multiple monitor setups with different refresh rates not quite working, that may catch you unguarded.
You gotta know if you can live without that or if you can get matching monitors instead, and you gotta know if it's worth it for you.
I run mint on 3 computers and arch on my main gaming pc
I don't hate mint but I think they can do better.
wine 6 stable released over 3 years ago.
Yes, you're using regular Mint, which is based on Ubuntu LTS 20.04 iirc, which is based off of Debian 11.
On LMDE, I have Wine 8.0, since it is based on Debian 12 Bookworm, and therefore has the "stable package base snapshot of mid 2023" of the Linux ecosphere.
You're trying to complain about something that betrays the fact of you having picked the wrong tool for the wrong job.
Also, maybe you are NTA, but I'm still waiting on an answer to
>What exactly do you want to install?
No more evidence than with others, however, unlike others, the assurance precautionary measures were taken, since it, ultimately, was mitigated.
>why ship broken outdated garbage
read up on the concept of long term support
love the concept of Gentoo and Slackware and Arch to a lesser extent, but at the end of the day, I just don't want to spend the time building an OS when I need to and would rather spend just a few minutes pressing the next button.
that's why you have windows and mac, you swine.
Mac is unusable and Windows sucks
You mean Linux Mint, swine.
Whatever, swine.
You mean debian and arch.
Gentoo users like it in the ass.
Debian and arch users like to stick it in the ass gentoo users like to get it in the ass, there's not much difference
>Gentoo users like having sex
What a horrible fate.
Imagine still trusting Mint in the current year. Not only did they get owned and backdoored, but the breach was entirely preventable.
shalom rabbi
when they accuse you of being a israelite, you know you're over the target
>no incidents
fair enough
>security is now tight
what are you basing this on besides no known incidents
>what are you basing this on besides no known incidents
Not being a victim of the recent XY breach.
This is a reason as to
>why ship broken outdated garbage
Debian exists, and Ubuntu/Mint/LMDE exist in turn to try to make that work out of the box for you.
If you were on Arch and updooted consistently, you were exposed to the breach, if I'm not mistaken.
no, i mean what positive evidence do you have that security is now tight? xz is unsurprising given how mint fits into the supply chain
>what are you basing this on
Back when the hack happened they communicated how they were gonna improve security, but yeah it was long ago so who even remembers.
8 years ago, no incidents since. Security is now tight.
Kubuntu is better so it's redundant and just extra work / fragmentation
>KDE Plasma
>Better
Keep floundering with Wayland. Get back to me when your distro is usable.
You don't have to use Wayland, Cinnamon/XFCE/MATE don't even support Wayland so I don't know why you're comparing apples to oranges when apples to apples is possible.
So now? It's stable. Using debian however.
>using snaps
Problem is there
Yes it comes with snaps. It boggles the mind that a distro famous for being newbie friendly now has to have the user do a "de-snapping" procedure on it with a bunch of terminal commands.
But you don't have to use snaps on Kubuntu right...it just comes preconfigured so you can install snaps right away but usually use the normal repos. I don't see why Linux Mint is needed with Kubuntu, any minor benefits are probably cancelled out by all the extra maintenance needs.
Firefox and Thunderbird are no longer available in the normal repos, you have to use snap or configure something else yourself which isn't easy for newbies.
In Kubuntu. ((doubt)) All I found was pages telling people to install it with apt-get, do you have a link? I think people can install it without snap just fine.
>not knowing this
https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/firefox
>Transitional package - firefox -> firefox snap
https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/thunderbird
>Transitional package - thunderbird -> thunderbird snap
Pretty sure OpenSUSE is better, and Kubuntu is just unnecessary hobbyist shit polluting the space.
Opensuse is based, I just prefer DPKG over RPG for super specific stuff. If I ever no longer needed my PC for work, I would switch to either Slackware or OpenSuse and just set it to auto-login and open steam in big-picture mode and run my machine like a console.
Kubuntu can't even update snaps graphically. You're given a snap Firefox and you can't even update it after installing the system, it's very odd when your update manager says "no updates available" yet your Firefox is very outdated. They don't give a shit and will not address this.
But yes KDE is better than Cinnamon/XFCE/MATE.
Arch is the only distro worth using. Excellent documentation, up to date packages, and the user is not treated like a moron
Up to date packages will not unlock some secret new potential hidden inside you, it just means you're more likely to encounter issues when updating.
lol no, it means i get to run the software i actually want to run
such as?
plasma 6? the latest stable release of literally anything?
>plasma 6
plasma 5.27 is almost the fricking same, unless plasma 6 specific features are genuinely important for you there's no excuse
>the latest stable release of literally anything
>what is flatpak
>what is appimage
>what is deb
>what is binary
>flatpak, appimage, [3rd party] deb, binary
lol, all of these are cope for not having an up-to-date primary repo
>unless plasma 6 specific features are genuinely important for you there's no excuse
gatekeep much?
>list 4 distinct ways of getting up to date software on ubuntu/debian
>"cope"
chess pigeon archtard
ad hominem == over target
rofl, yeah let me just install plasma 6 via one of these methods!
>latest
>stable
Pick one hill and fricking die on it, you humongous fence-sitting homosexual.
>Also called production release, the stable release is the last release candidate (RC) which has passed all stages of verification and tests. Any known remaining bugs are considered acceptable. This release goes to production.
>Some software products (e.g. Linux distributions) also have long term support (LTS) releases which are based on full releases that have already been tried and tested and receive only security updates.
Pull your head out of Debian's butthole for five fricking minutes
Do you have a point to make, or are you here just to copypaste wikipedia?
My point is already made. I'm just here refuting any residual bullshit
Right. So you don't believe in there being a stability tradeoff between bleeding edge and long term support? You think you can have your cake and eat it?
This thread is about Mint, not a server OS. I like running the latest kernel and DE. Things generally work. Have you never run Arch?
I'm not interested in what you think this thread is about. I was replying to a specific comment, which you seemingly didn't even write. If you're not interested in taking the conversation in that particular direction, then just stop replying to it.
>Have you never run Arch?
I trialed it for like a week. I enjoyed the installation process and the package manager. I went back to a "server OS" because I don't want to live with frequent changes and potential breakages.
>I went back to a "server OS"
Which OS?
Red Hat
You're shilling for Mint but you run Red Hat? Why?
What are you fricking talking about?
I am more likely to encounter issues when all my shit is 4 years out of date.
2 years maximum, and you are more likely to encounter issues when your package manager rolls tens of thousands of packages whose interactions with each other are not fully tested, this is an undeniable fact that won't go away because you want to be witty on a shitposting website.
Only aur stuff breaks and when it does some redditor has already written up a solution on the aur chatboard
I've had Arch update libinput and break mouse sensitivity and acceleration with KDE Plasma. Things clearly are not thoroughly tested when they issue updates that cause issues with major desktop environments, I'm not going to use a distro where random shit can break spontaneously for the benefit of having updooted software which is 99.99% the same anyway.
Having easy, timely access to newer packages is well worth the extra five minutes a month maintaining your system.
That is your opinion, with which I disagree completely and entirely.
I want to write NbFid 22 to NbPstate 1 and 2
How do I do this
https://superuser.com/questions/87703/how-to-read-a-specific-pci-device-register-in-linux-from-the-cli
Alright I figured out a way to change this value with the setpci command. I can change NbPstate 0 and 1 but when I change NbPstate 2 the computer reboots violently.
Now if I were to set 0x168 to 'ad' (1300 MHz) the computer hard resets.
I am the kid rock of linux computing
I set 168 to a9 (1200 MHz) and it worked
Going to spend the rest of the day running benchmarks.
What the frick are you even trying to accomplish?
I overclocked the memory controller on my FM2+ Athlon
it's a low end motherboard I couldn't accomplish much besides a 5% bclk oc
JFC, Anon, good luck and happy hunting!
Thanks
I have 4 faster computers this is just a toy
clem looks like the gay love-child of harry potter and ron weasley.
That's not Clem, that's some popular YouTuber (who is arguably the least homosexual and insufferable YouTuber to exist).
Computers dot com or something like that is his channel's name, it's supposedly quite good.
Clem has an IRL GitHub profile pic, and coincidentally, they do look a little similar.
Github profile pic
love that lil homie
I'm fat and I use Mint
I just started using mint because everyone said it would be a good first distro. I didn't know it was also based
When new release? Need Distrobox in the repos.
Am I the only one crazy enough to still be using https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yYsxkssNZg as a startup sound even after they changed it?
Tried it recentely but... Why can't I post on IQfy using it? I have literally the same machine running win10 and linux mint (same network, same IPs) and I get a "you're range banned, homosexual" on linux while I can post just fine on win10.
Linuggers, explain yourselves.
How can I get more up to date packages in Mint. I really like it but some games run like shit.
22 based on the latest ubuntu LTS will be releasing soon, so just wait for that
I'm waiting until Distrobox is officially added to the repos on the next release, this + Flatpack is a good solution. You could also try Nix. I wasn't a fan, but it may work for you.