Kinda sucks that we're going to die without any real answers about the nature of existence, even though it's still much more than previous generations knew.
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Kinda sucks that we're going to die without any real answers about the nature of existence, even though it's still much more than previous g...
We could find out the real answers.
But that would mean you would have to throw away like 90% of the current model that's been built up over the last century or 2.
And certain ~~*people*~~ aren't ready to do that apparently. They'd rather just fellate Einstein into their grave.
I figure if you actually had any worthwhile evidence for your claims to stand on you would've already presented them in a formal setting.
But since you are posting here it can only mean that you tried and got laughed at or did not even make an attempt because you too know your theories have nothing substantial to them.
This. There are plenty of people who have virtually complete understanding up to and including the TOE. Understanding requires tearing up around 90% of current established physics. Society has not evolved since the times of Galileo despite what many might think.
Here is what happens when people try and speak on it even here: people will say, "that cannot be right, this overturns such and such. Where are your sources?" You provide sources, and they say, "but these sources are from outside the establishment, what are these people's names, employments?" So you give those... and that is when the anonymous threats start going out to those people.
I wish it wasn't like that but it is. Powerful, influential and established people don't like being proven wrong. Period.
I could explain virtually everything to you. You wouldn't believe me without hearing my credentials. And revealing my credentials here (or virtually anywhere) is dangerous.
Furthermore the truth of our reality is completely fricking bonkers. It does sound like schizophrenia but only because of how astray established physics has become. A few highlights 1) big bang never happened and red shift is caused by gravity, i.e. we live in an eternal universe. 2) spacetime scales by the factor of c, i.e. atoms are essentially galaxies and inward forever.
Only a handful of people know this, and getting too indepth is dangerous to their real life identies. I wish I was joking. Religion still has massive sway, it's why US presidents are always Christian for example, and these truths are ommited precisely BECAUSE they contradict scripture. It's helpful to understand that Big Bang theory took hold on the word of the Pope himself, Google it.
Anon, frick all of these other posters right now. It's just you and me. What you're saying is giving real words to that abstract idea in my head. I think I understand what you're saying, that science cannot progress because the current model is sunken-cost garbage. That philosophy and science have completely parted when they should be one in the same. From atoms to electromagnetism is never going to make sense because the establishment is looking at it the wrong way and it never will because they are the authority on science. I don't think I'm as smart as you, I'm not asking for a source to midwit what you say. I would actually like to read anything you would suggest, someone with that kind of perspective is valuable and gives me hope that there are others like you. Please respond
Please have a nice day.
>I would actually like to read anything you would suggest, someone with that kind of perspective is valuable and gives me hope that there are others like you. Please respond
There are plenty like me and growing daily, but its a bottom up movement - regular people, blue collars. We might even see a change in our lifetimes. Keep an eye on /sci and you'll see the posts, and not just from me. There is a growing understanding and the sharpest and most critical posts here are from people who think similar to how I do. A little more: this universe is entirely "mathematical" in the sense that it's a perfectly continuous matrix. All that exists is that number matrix and its coordinates. There is very little "complexity". These names we give the different particles and phomenon are just that - names, but essentially they are emergent from the same phenominon. The complexity is only emergent from that infinite "sea" of numbers. I don't think I can say more here, or link you to anything. There are communities but brigading is a real issue.
I'm imagining what you're saying is like minesweeper. The numbers change according to their position to others. I like this idea, that everything is one and made from the same stuff. It's the Monad. Thank you for your time, anon. People like you make earth feel warm
>The numbers change according to their position to others
Yes.
>It's the Monad
Yes. And you were smart to explain it that way. Because the matrix is infinite and continuous its base structure can be thought of as a system of unit circles, and not like a square grid. Those units are infinitely recursive.
And because the universe is infinite and not closed, 2nd law does not apply. This is why the universe tends toward complexity. It's complex at all scales. If you zoomed into an atom you would find it to be as complex as a galaxy and inward forever.
This is not to say that an atom *is* a galaxy, only that the complexity is comparable. Each lower scale has a effect on the higher scale that we preceive as uncertainly principle, and so it's possible that each scale has a slightly different structure from the next as a result due to the compounding wave patterns.
>Please have a nice day.
Brigading is a real issue, like I said.
>big bang never happened
Multiple lines of evidence show it did.
>red shift is caused by gravity
Depending on your coordinate system, this is perfectly fine. So what?
>spacetime scales by the factor of c, i.e. atoms are essentially galaxies and inward forever.
Gibberish.
You are an example of Dunning-Kruger. All of your reasoning has already been researched and considered.
Not an argument. Try again.
>Not an argument. Try again.
I have no interest in winning you over.
You have no ability to win. Every part you make in which you avoid the argument proves that.
>You have no ability to win
I won't we discussing with someone who says, "you're mentally ill" at the very first hint of differing opinion. Again, I have no interest in being associated with people like you, or in winning you over. You're a lost cost.
>lost cost.
Lost cause
Then why are you still posting? You clearly care but have no ability to defend your delusions.
>Then why are you still posting?
I'm not posting for you. I'm posting so that others can see how people like you react, and why this information is kept discrete.
>redshit tier moron doesn't know how to inflect discretion
>I'm not posting for you. I'm posting so that others can see how people like you react
React to what? Your tantrum?
Here's my reaction to your bullshit:
. So far you have utterly failed to defend yourself. You're only embarrassing yourself.
>Here's my reaction to your bullshit:
Hubble himself called Big Bang "dubious" not like you bothered to check. And Hubble gave reasoning at the time which still holds true.
>Hubble himself called Big Bang "dubious"
Doubtful, show your source. It's this really the best you can do? If he actually says this, he was wrong. What is your point?
He wasn't wrong. And you can search for the source yourself. He published that. You will have difficulty finding it because of how batshit the drivel in your search engines is but it's there.
You acknowledge that light bends in a gravity field, yes? What I am saying is that light also stretches when leaving a gravity field, and that gravity field (similar to light) have an infinite range. The further the source the more stretch. This is true, and you people will learn it eventually. Big Bang theory is only popular with you because the Pope endorsed it as a proof of scripture, but I doubt you knew that was why you are made to learn it.
>And you can search for the source yourself.
No, the burden of proof is on you. You made the claim. Why did you lie about such a trivial thing?
>What I am saying is that light also stretches when leaving a gravity field, and that gravity field (similar to light) have an infinite range.
Yeah, it's called gravitational redshift and is part of standard physics. You don't even understand what you're criticizing so you thought it was something new.
>Big Bang theory is only popular with you because the Pope endorsed it as a proof of scripture
More delusions. Both Hubble's law and the CMB support the Big Bang.
>No, the burden of proof is on you. You made the claim. Why did you lie about such a trivial thing?
I already posted the link. I don't lie. Others lie about shit and I cannot control that. Stict rationalist tend to look crazy in a world gone mad.
You lied.
>Both Hubble's law and the CMB support the Big Bang.
Hubble called velocity red shift a "forced fit" and "dubious". I already posted the link to his original article. CMB is just the distance when light becomes so stretched that it blackbodies.
>Hubble called velocity red shift a "forced fit" and "dubious".
He did not. That's a blatant lie. Show the quote directly.
>CMB is just the distance when light becomes so stretched that it blackbodies.
Gibberish.
>He did not. That's a blatant lie. Show the quote directly.
First you were too lazy to find the link that I have previously researched. So I found it. Now you're too lazy to read the link. This is why I said you suffer from Dunning Kruger.
>First you were too lazy to find the link
As if it's my responsibility to prove your claims. LOL. Thanks for admitting you lied, again.
>He called the expanding universe model dubious
You already acknowledge that he said it. Again I don't lie. I also don't have time for lazy people. Bye now.
>You already acknowledge that he said it.
No, I never acknowledged he said anything negative about redshift. He stays that it is a well-proven phenomenon. Why did you lie?
You really don't get it. You're so fricking rotten that you cannot even recognize people with good intentions anymore if you ever could. The world will be better when you are gone. You are litrrally worthless. There is not a single think you offer that I could not ask Siri for. You don't don't even offer decent company or conversation. You're a fricking human cancer who offers nothing interesting, inspiring or worthwhile.
Didn't you say you were leaving? Abs I don't see a quote proving your claim anywhere in your unhinged rants. Please explain to the class why you lied.
I only lie to snakes with bad intentions. This thread wasn't one of those situations. You simply lack reading comprehension.
lmao. Triggered schizo is triggered
Still no quote. Why did you lie?
You have a complete lack of ability to discern people who are genuinely seeking the truth from the evil rattling around in your own rotten skull. You're not a scientist. You're a fricking parrot and a scumbag
If someone tries to hurt my family. Yeah I'm going to lie to that piece of shit. I might even kill that piece of fricking shit. My ancestors used to. My generation never had our great war, but we have the blood of killers in us. Your mind is so rotten that you have a complete inability to differentiate good people from bad.
You're "in the sciences" but you have completely forgotten the curiosity that lead you there. And now you try and hurt anyone with that spark that you've lost.
>Both Hubble's law and the CMB support the Big Bang.
time to have a nice day anon. You're operating fairly low on the intellectual capability spectrum.
For the rest of you who are new to the Electric Universe, I implore you to look into it. I also suggest this for those of you looking into REAL history. This stuff sheds light on all of reality and it only uses REAL science, no theoretical math bullshit. It is amazing. Literally life changing stuff, especially once you realize how much of mainstream cosmology is a lie.
For example, cosmology right now needs a new theory made up for almost every new star they find as observations NEVER match with current theory. Electric Universe has no such problem. NASA is always scratching their heads and making no successful predictions. EU predicts and and then NASA's own satellites prove EU theory correct every time.
It also makes you question why the mainstream would push the current cosmological narrative in such a forceful, religious way.
>It also makes you question why the mainstream would push the current cosmological narrative in such a forceful, religious way.
Because it is literally religion. Big Bang was promoted by the Pope himself and the Catholics are major patrons of education. US President is a Catholic.
Nothing against Catholics just that they have a terrible record when it comes to science.
Your schizo delusions are not an argument. Try again.
>Doubtful, show your source.
You mean others have to show sources of an theory that is on flatearthers level?
>If he actually says this, he was wrong
So you are right, Mr. know everything. How can you that sure? The theory is totally absurf, needs speed over c to work and has needs effects never observed. Sure you know that and can tell me how it works. Come on,
>needs speed over c to work and has needs effects never observed.
Yep. Their latest explanation is that "nothing can travel faster than c than nothing itself". They just keep adding duct tape to their faulty premise.
Hundreds of duct tape theories can be easily explained away with a simple concept: light is stretched by the gravitational field it is emitted from.
What do you mean by light stretching?
>What do you mean by light stretching?
You know how light lenses around galaxies? It's because light is effected by gravitational fields. When light leaves a galaxy that galaxies gravitational field pulls on the light, stretching it. That is all that is required to explain red shift and is a perfect data fit. The big bang is literally a religious fairy tail that gained popularity because the Pope endorsed it. Santa also isn't real, fyi.
>That is all that is required to explain red shift and is a perfect data fit
It definitely isn't. In order to explain the uniform relation between redshift and distance, all objects would need to decrease in gravitational potential the farther away they are from Earth.
>all objects would need to decrease in gravitational potential the farther away they are from Earth.
They... do *eye roll*. Gravity does not decrease in a linear fashion either. It's a perfect fit. You're lazy and stupid. Bye now.
>They... do
No they don't. The universe is basically the same everywhere.
>Gravity does not decrease in a linear fashion either.
Yeah, that's why it can't exlain the linear relationship between redshift and distance.
>It's a perfect fit.
Repeating this over and over with zero physics or math is not an argument. Are you afraid of detailing your perfect theory? Or does the theory just not exist?
Oh, before I go... Santa isn't real either. Sorry to burst your bubble, kid.
>Their latest explanation is that "nothing can travel faster than c than nothing itself"
Their must be a luminosity fall of at expansion rate. It's a 3 liner in SQL against any GC.
>You mean others have to show sources of an theory that is on flatearthers level?
Yes, you have to show a source for your flat-earth-tier conspiracy claims.
>So you are right, Mr. know everything. How can you that sure?
It's called evidence. I know that might be a foreign concept to you.
>needs speed over c to work
You probably don't even realize that the speed of light is only a limit in local reference frames approximating flat spacetime. General relativity has no such limit.
lol Hubble NEVER bought into redshift either. You would know this if you studied him. Of course, that would require you get information from some place other than black science man.
but you wont do that, now will you?
>lol Hubble NEVER bought into redshift either. You would know this if you studied him. Of course, that would require you get information from some place other than black science man.
>but you wont do that, now will you?
Based
>lol Hubble NEVER bought into redshift either
Delusional. He not only spent his entire career observing them, he formulated what he called a law of redshifts, which is more known as Hubble's law. You known absolutely nothing.
>he formulated what he called a law of redshifts, which is more known as Hubble's law.
Yes, and he proved several explanations for them, not all of which included receding velocity.
>proved
Provided
>Yes, and he proved several explanations for them
Where? He said recession was the only known explanation. How many times do you have to get BTFO?
>Where? He said recession was the only known explanation. How many times do you have to get BTFO?
For red shift. Then he listed the problems with integrating that with known physics, and went on to describe how much simpler it would be if there was another explanation for the red shift that did not involve expansion.
>Then he listed the problems with integrating that with known physics
Where? First you said he never bought into redshift, then you said he provided several explanations for them. Now you're changing your story again. Even your delusional brain must realize by now you have no clue what you're talking about.
Stop projecting and being such a horrible piece of shit to everyone. You see the worst in everyone. The vast majority of us are just young guys trying to figure things out. We're not lying, just skeptical and curious. The world would legitimately be better if horrible rotten pieces of shit like you werent in it for real.
So no quote. Why did you lie?
>You have no ability to win.
We have already won. In the same way that Darwin will always win. Because what we say is true. Maybe not in 100 years maybe not even in 1000. But on an infinite timeline we always win. And yes, we might be proven wrong. But it's the openness to evidence and reason which wins. That's real science. That's what you've forgotten.
>We have already won.
Delusions of grandeur. Your bullshit is and always will be relegated to the schizophrenic fringe. You can't even take the first step of defending it. Enjoy your mental illness.
>fringe
Lol
You're race is 10% of world population is that correct?
We already know everything you have to teach. And we have already identified the holes in it as well as in your excuses and apologetics.
No you haven't. You're mentally ill.
>You're mentally ill.
The grossest ad hominid against anyone who thinks different from you is your bread and butter and exactly why we disengaged.
>ad hominid
Ad hominem, obviously.
Is not that you think differently, it's that you post a bunch of nonsense and then refuse to back it up.
Don't you have a r****t board to shit up instead of this board? Kys you fricking moronic ape
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST REFUTE MY SCHIZO NONSENSE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEDDIT
lmao
>Don't you have a r****t board to shit up instead of this board? Kys you fricking moronic ape
Based
You sound deranged. Why would I put any weight to your posts?
>You sound deranged. Why would I put any weight to your posts?
I literally predicted you would say that. I don't think this conversation can progress further. Your ideology is a kind of religion, you just don't realize it.
Have you tried publishing your comprehensive theory of everything and put it under scrutiny?
I don't think you understand the structure of the sciences. The establishment loves to make a big deal about how they persecuted Galileo, and are sorry for it, but even then they often say "it was a complex situation". But what they won't tell you is that before Galileo they burned another scientist at the stake named Gordiano Bruno for heliocentrism. You might think they have apologized for that. No. The Cardinal who did it was Sainted only a few decades ago and has dozens of schools named after him. Not a single school is named after Bruno.
Semmelweis thought like you do. Only around 100 years ago he published his very real findings about germ theory and was murdered by people affiliated with the church for it. Seeing that, Darwin choose to sidestep the "established" publishing route entirely.
The published sciences are not what you think they are. They are not filtering for what you think they are filtering for.
So have you tried or not?
>So have you tried or not?
Those who understand, understand. And you are not one of them. But good luck to you on your quest for power and influence. Others like me are only interested in truth.
Sounds like something a mentally ill neet with a god complex would say to explain why he hasn't left his mom's basement in the last 5 years.
>Sounds like something a mentally ill neet with a god complex would say to explain why he hasn't left his mom's basement in the last 5 years.
I had your character exactly right.
>I could exlain everything to you, but "anonymous threats"
Very convenient
>Very convenient
There have been several threats in this very thread, including from you. The mere insinuation of mental illness which you casually bandy around can ruin someone's career, but of course you already know that. It's why you said it.
>The mere insinuation of mental illness which you casually bandy around can ruin someone's career,
If only everyone on this board were so lucky that your career could get ruined. You deserve to be behind bars, or worse, for your pedophilia. Fricking piece of shit.
>There have been several threats in this very thread, including from you
Where? You're delusional.
>The mere insinuation of mental illness which you casually bandy around can ruin someone's career
I wish.
>Where? You're delusional.
The person above you said that I should *checks notes* "be behind bars" for disagreeing with him. That's not science. That's religious fascism.
The israeli pedophile is using pilpul. I never said you should be behind bars for disagreeing with me. You should be behind bars for molesting children. That's the best case scenario for you. You deserve far worse.
>You should be behind bars for molesting children
You are projecting. And I'm not israeli. I'm Asian.
Vague Asian. Smells like a pajeet or maybe even Ivan from Asian Russia. You're a shill. KGB?
>Vague Asian. Smells like a pajeet or maybe even Ivan from Asian Russia. You're a shill. KGB?
I'm just a run of the mill Asian, Anon. Dunning Kruger, like I said. When was the last time you bothered to check on the research being done over there?
>The person above you said that I should *checks notes* "be behind bars" for disagreeing with him.
That's not me. Nice try at moving the goalposts. It also sounds like a samegay.
You just exposed yourself as having a IQfy pass. Either you're moronic enough to give this site money for your own personal shitposting, or you're on the salary to shill (like when you do in climate threads). Or you're a janny. Don't bother nuking the thread once you see I BTFOd and exposed you. I already took screenshots. Whichever you are, it's hilarious that you're an ESL Black person.
>I already took screenshots.
Anons, see how irrational and defensive they are to simple and calm discussion they are and be wise.
>You just exposed yourself as having a IQfy pass.
You're responding to two different people, abs I don't have a pass. Thanks for confirming you're delusional.
Maybe if you keep smelling shit everywhere you go it's because there's some on the back of your shoe.
>Maybe if you keep smelling shit everywhere you go it's because there's some on the back of your shoe
I am one of billions, Anon. You just don't know it yet. You come from a particular closed ecosystem that is under illusions of freedom.
>Maybe if you keep smelling shit everywhere you go it's because there's some on the back of your shoe.
The world has been progressing rapidly while you were playing Xbox and masterbating to midget port or whatever it is you people do.
Or maybe you are just a delusional failure of a human being.
absolute schizo cringe
every TOE ever proposed breaks down after even the most cursory, borderline-layman examination
but certain ~~*anonymous image board posters*~~ forget to take their meds so the TOEs keep getting passed around by idiots
You're like an old NPC conversation tree from a 1980s rpg. Get some new lines other than "schizo" "take your meds" and ~~*insert bullshit here*~~. Or maybe you could do us all a favor and put a bullet into your head - would be the only decent thing you've ever done.
I'll get new lines when you take your meds, schizo.
Took him two hours to respond to you, and two minutes for you to respond to him? You a homosexual or what? have a nice day homo
Probably just an old gaylord who thinks shitposting on the IQfy makes him feel young again. Whatever
He should kill himself.
Well then who would feed his pet rat? (Or whatever animal wienersuckers like him have instead of a woman)
Nah, he probably has a woman chained up in his basement somewhere.
Press f for doubt. I don't think there's a woman on Earth he could overpower.
STAHP yur gonna make him start masterbating to that mental image
He probably started masterbating as soon as he saw a reply from me so yeah
>his pet rat?
Maybe that is his woman, Anon. Rat frickers gonna rat frick.
You know he's reading all these and not responding cause you'll call him a homosexual for responding so soon again right? What an old rat fricking homo
That wasn't me who said that but yeah
x-D
>Took him two hours to respond to you
He didn't respond to me, moron.
This turd still hasn't even given a shred of evidence or logic for the nonsense he's posting
cosmology and astronomy are a complete waste of time and many careers.
and all the knowledge gathered by these professions will be destroyed in just a few million years.
whoever chooses these professions is just pissing in the wind
Why would it be? Deciphering the structure and history of the universe should be one of our main priorities, considering we exist within it.
>Why would it be? Deciphering the structure and history of the universe should be one of our main priorities, considering we exist within it.
It's about money bro. Understand the structure of "the sciences" and it will begin making sense. They are trying to fund a 21 billion Euro supercolider. The funding is the goal, not the science. Imagine a gone genius solves everything, do you think that those people will just give up 21 billion? It's like the "step on a puppy for 18 billion dollars) thread here. Would you destroy some career over 21 billion? Yes you would.
FYI, physics has already been solved, but that will not be admitted by the establishment for maybe 100 years, and it's dangerous to talk about even here.
>gone
Lone
>physics has already been solved, but that will not be admitted by the establishment for maybe 100 years, and it's dangerous to talk about even here.
>It's about money bro
If you cared about money you'd go after the banking cartel that literally holds trillions hostage, instead you're arguing about a couple of billion for something that contributes to our understanding of existence. I swear, you fricking morons are so ignorant.
That's right Anon. I'm a straw man. You nailed it.
>considering we exist within it.
Unproven.
This. Cosmology and astrophysics is akin to probing your mothers c**t for answers as to where you came from.
Do we? We see further, at smaller scales, but have we learned anything about base reality, how and why, why I seemingly appeared from nowhere, why does it only happen once, has it only happened once, etc?
Its like we know nothing of value. How to live a little longer, but not what for.
>we're going to die
>we're
>we
you don't speak for everyone else even though you clearly assume that you do. the "i speak for all of humanity" grandiosity is a tip off.
how are you going to not die?
>how are you going to not die?
Eternal return or upload? Idk
I am rock and roll.
Rock and roll never dies.
Suck on that one, eggheads.
And our kids will die in the depression of knowing the Dee-Grey-Checkik theorems will never be settled in their lifetime.
I think its safe to say that this is the worst thread in the history of IQfy.
how so?
>I think its safe to say that this is the worst thread in the history of IQfy.
Brigading is a real issue. Like I said. Out of all the filth posted on Sci, why would someone possibly call out this thread, which only contains casual vulgarity from a handful of trolls, as being "the worst". Answer that and you'll have a deeper understanding of what is really happening in the sciences.
Honestly I'm surprised this thread is even still up. Mods have been pruning threads that allude to the true TOE as of late.
Just wait that this moronic and nightmarish era (2001-202X) comes to an end and we will be back into the comfy pro science, pro human, progress era again.
This isn't the worst thread in sci history, it's the gayest one. These two gays have a bigger hard on for each other than mandlrbaur and e.
tf is happening in this thread?
>tf is happening in this thread?
You are witnessing the irrationality and meltdown of a particular kind of obsolete thought.
In case it's unclear, this is the climate shill who's having a mental breakdown.
> of a particular kind of obsolete thought
which thought?
>which thought?
"Western" thought has become so merged with religion that it no longer knows where the religion ends and the science begins. The average "westerner" is oblivious to this. They don't even know they are brainwashed
>Communist bugman has the hallmark to call Westerners brainwashed
Kek
>Kek
Lol. I am a western citizen and am trying to help. You just don't realize it. I am trying to help you think more critically, logically and mathematically. You will need that.
You mean positivism?
>positivism
Yes. "Western" science has fallen to irrationality. String theory. Multiverse. The rejection of a unified cosmic "substance", etc...
Anyone else notice this homosexual is the same one who shills in climate threads? What's his end game? Who's paying him? Do his masters know he's having a breakdown outside of work hours here?
>...Anonymous
>07/10/22(Sun)05:11:05 No.14641449
>Anyone else notice this homosexual is the same one who shills in climate threads?
I have tried to explain this. We are legion. We are billions. It's only in your regions where you are finally being exposed to this reasoning.
>reasoning
Pure logic and math reasoning.
just get psychosis
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/07/science/space/halton-c-arp-astronomer-who-challenged-big-bang-theory-dies-at-86.html
I'm still looking for the Hubble quote. It's there, but modern insanity has tried to bury it. When I find it, it will hardly matter to these religious zombies but whatever.
https://www.science20.com/eternal_blogs/blog/hubble_eventually_did_not_believe_big_bang_associated_press-85962
Still looking for the actual quote. It was in an article that Hibble published.
>Still looking for the actual quote
Start a séance and call him.
It's here. Hubble repeatedly called velocity red shift "dubious" "a force fit of data" and "disturbing" while saying it's more rational to believe there is another explanation for red shift. That other expansion is gravity.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Sept04/Hubble/paper.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiflYjCxu74AhUPADQIHX-aDIIQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw18I3anmtpdH9xo9MuZOR71
>Hubble repeatedly called velocity red shift "dubious"
No he didn't. He called the expanding universe model dubious but says it's the most likely conclusion. All he's saying is that it's a strange and counterintuitive conclusion since physicists up to that point assumed an eternal universe. You completely misrepresented him. Further, the additional evidence he asked for was found with the discovery of the CMB.
"all the empirical information we have concerning the observable region as a whole is internally consistent. The region appears to be thoroughly homogeneous - an insignificant sample of a
universe which extends indefinitely. The conclusion would probably be accepted without hesitation if it
were not for the fact that, at the moment, we do not know of any permissible interpretation of red-shifts
other than actual motion, actual recession of the nebulae." That other interpretation is gravity.
You just admitted that you lied. Hubble said the only known explanation was recession. He was not against the Big Bang and never said anything against "velocity redshift."
Why will schizos never understand that there are no authoritative figures in science? You can quote whoever you want but that will never change the science. What matters is the mathematical consistency and experimental evidence. Unfortunately, the schizos are mentally incapable of understanding this, so they will keep posting quotes instead of providing arguments even after being told this.
>What matters is the mathematical consistency and experimental evidence.
Yeah. We know. Light is stretched by the gravity field its emitted from. THAT IS A PERFECT DATA FIT. What you people are doing is literal insanity, you are just blind to see it.
mainstream cosmology is a literal religion at this point. Electric Universe/plasma Physics already has real answers for you. The science is still on going, but current mainstream cosmology is an absolute farce and if you buy into now, you are a literal NPC
>Electric Universe/plasma Physics already has real answers for you.
There are no answers with the current scientific method. They do something similar to understand Beethovens 9th with a spectrum analyzer.
Here you can witness two schizos trying to communicate with each other
how much soi did you drink before you wrote this post? Your position is literally "NEVER question facebook, twitter and the TV! They are always right!!"
have a nice day. Mainstream cosmology is 99% mathematical theoretical bullshit. "Space time" "Dark matter" "Dark energy". LOL imagine being so moronic you buy into this shit. You have also never calculated a tensor in your life.
Is dark matter in the room with us, anon? Go back to praying to your religion of science, midwit. We'll keep following evidence and experimentation. You can go back to consuming massive amounts of soi
Shut the frick up and take your meds moron
>Your position is literally "NEVER question facebook, twitter and the TV! They are always right!!"
Accurate
>Electric Universe/plasma Physics already has real answers for you.
Basically, yeah. I wouldn't use the term electric universe the premise is basically sound. This universe is an infinite, unified, eternal field.
>infinite, unified, eternal
Impossible, then you would need to explain that property the "universe" has that none of it's constituents have
>>>/x/
No it doesn't you sad moron
speak for yourself, I plan to live forever
JWST will discover the truth.
String theory landscape is enormous but discrete. Maybe we will identify the right vacuum yet.
There is an afterlife. We are energy/spirit whatever makes you comfortable. I had an NDE after a severe MC crash. 20yrs later I'm still hurting but I know what's next.
cosmology is probably the lowest iq topic in all of academia, even theology blows cosmology out of the water in terms of intellectual demand and relevance. cosmology is pretty much a sandbox game for losers with the most grandiose of delusions
>i understand the entirety of the universe, it's history, it's origins and i can predict it's future
could only be a cope
I don't know, this post sounds more like cope.
It's always amusing seeing theists like you being afraid of scientific progress
Looks like this schizo has broken down.
There you go with the projection again.
If you go to heaven you'll probably get an answer.
>in this thread
>I has teery of everyding
>publish it
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>THE ILLUMINATI WILL KEEL ME!!!!!!!!
Worthless homosexual
you guys are being vulgar as frick, pathetic human species always in small shitty details about every little useless issue. This goes for all that been arguing in this thread
Primitive brains
>just believe me bro
>no I'm not supposed to back up things that I say, you're only supposed to believe me and tell me how right I am
What you rambling about, science is a tool life gave us, use it with your free thinking and frick pity narratives and egos.
This argument bullshit is useless , complete useless
I mean we can argue sure, but not in such vulgar and attacking each others character and being malicious .
Usually argument avoid outright falsehoods too. When I'm arguing and the other person starts lying, the argument is over I'll probably meet the lies with similarly discourteous rhetoric.
It's complete normal sometimes we don't agree with somethings when arguing, but does not need to be like a psychological warfare war with personal attacks and vulgarity.
I had "heated" debates with people I knew but in the end we laugh at our previous debate and we reach a common ground of understanding and just move on.
People attacking themselves like that we witness here is pointless, that's what happens in this mad world in the regular, low impulse and emotional mess , we come here to escape that, some people here are forgetting this , in the anonymous "world" and random people we don't met in real life, a different connection and format of communication.
I'm just trying to bring some positivity, not even necessary pointing finger or saying oh i am so much better then all this.
I just seek balance
My point was that in my opinion, injecting falsehood into an argument by far the harsher transgression when compared to injecting things like insults and death threats.
I seek imbalance such that everything is slanted towards me. I would count balance as a loss if that's how it came out.
Tooker's a hell of a martial artist. Seriously. Not many people know that about him.
>I had "heated" debates with people I knew but in the end we laugh at our previous debate and we reach a common ground of understanding and just move on.
Agreed. And a word of general advice to the internet: keep people's lifelong built reputations and family members out of your fricking mouth and off your posts. Bullshit you casually gleam from anonymous posts is not proof. People have real lives. And, yeah, people fricking die everyday and 90% of homicides go unsolved. This isn't a threat. It's a fact. Don't assume about people. Don't look for the worst in people.
>Don't look for the worst in people.
If you do, you just might find it.
Gangs in Mexico figured out that some lowlives out there want to die, so they pay crypto to turn the fricker into a quad. Eat through a tube for the next 30 years.
I'd say one of the main impediments to finding the action of everything (and the equations of motion of everything) has been the lack of a picture of the landscape of everything.
Maybe with a better picture of what's going on, people will have better options in their research than throwing darts at random Calabi-Yau manifolds (and such.)
>To the guys that claim to know the 'truth':
Post websites, papers, or articles giving us more information. It's not that hard (unless you're just making all this shit up)
Literally anyone can make a website, so there won't need to be academic reviews that you guys claim are bias
We would. The problem for an anonymous forum is that for every 1000 people who visit your site and think it's cool or "meh" or whatever, there's always that one person who ends up stalking you and your family for no other reason that he's jealous that 1,000 people visited your site and not his. Discretion is important.
So you're just making it up.
That's right Anon. Keep assuming the worst from people. Everyone is lying about everything. All your blue collar neighbors are fascist terrorists. Elon Musk has never done anything with his life, and you too would be the richest person alive and docking with the ISS if you wanted, but you just dont wanna. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE but not by Elon because he's white and male which is extremely problematic. And anyone who has an opinion that was next explicitly instructed by your ruler of choice must be wrong. Discoveries are ONLY made with permission. That's right Anon.
OK schizo. Doesn't matter how many rants you type or excuses you make. You clearly made it up.
Made what up?
Read the thread
Imagine you discover something that you think is really exciting and so you share it and are delighted that thousands of others think it's cool too. But one anonymous troll gets jealous and starts attacking your family directly for years. Why do you do? Imagine it's become an actual safety risk to your family because this troll is a psycho who has made harrassment into a kind of hobby. He finds targets and spends years harrassing them. Imagine you've figured out the trolls real identity. You've tell him to stop irl, you've called his work. He still does it because he's an actual psychological who has secretly hoped to die for years and is getting off on this negative attention. Whats next? Have him mutilated? Lots of ways to have that done but Jesus fricking christ man literally all you wanted was to share exciting ideas in good will without being harrassed for it. Purely hypothetical.
In this pure fantasy hypothetical, if the troll refuses to stop harrassment and continues to be a safety risk to your family then quick elimination would be the ideal. I get what you are trying to say about how he wants to die so, say the threat of getting a bum to spray him in the face with hydrochloric acid while he's walking to his car one day would be a better deterent, but really all you want is for the threat against your family to be eliminated. Dark web offers lots of solutions for that, obviously, in this fantasy sinareo.
moronic troony, I'm trolling everyone and nobody yet has stopped me, if you stop trolling idiots they make you feel bad and crash them, so it's better you off than me.
Everyone loves Pepe trolls Anon. Not to worry.
>Dark web offers lots of solutions for that, obviously, in this fantasy sinareo.
What if you accidently discovered that angular momentum is not conserved and have been CRIMINALLY HARASSED for years, Sir?
>Dark web offers lots of solutions for that, obviously, in this fantasy sinareo.
>This would make a good thrill novel. Thanks for sharing Anons.
ITS NOT A FANTASY ITS MY LIFE. I HAVE BEEN CRIMINALLY HARASSED FOR YEARS BECAUSE I DISCOVERED THAT ANGULAR MOMENTUM IS NOT CONSERVED, SIR.
>if the troll refuses to stop harrassment and continues to be a safety risk to your family then quick elimination would be the ideal.
I HAVE BEEN CRIMINALLY HARASSED BY PROFESSORS FOR YEARS ALL BECAUSE I DISCOVERED THAT ANGULAR MOMENTUM IS NOT CONSERVED.
This would make a good thrill novel. Thanks for sharing Anons.
I am the author of this post and I want to be clear that my totally fantasy and hypothetical discover is a new kind of "antigravity" engine that uses trapped dark matter. P
>jealous
lol
I would maybe feel pity for you if you weren't shitting this board by using it as an outlet for your fantasies
You're just mad that I developed an interesting, thought hypothetical, warp speed engine.
yes champ, you did great
>yes champ, you did great
Notice how the Anon behaves positively toward a blatant lie but squeals like a blue haired liberal at difficult truths. homosexual. Live your fantasy life where nothing makes sense. No one cares homo.
Schizo chimpout
>Schizo chimpout
>bruh lmao
Old triggered obsolete woke professor homosexual pretending to be cool. Good for you!
Off of the truths in this thread will be proven with or without you. But if you were dead it might just speed the process by a few decades. You know this. You'll never admit it because you are a pathetic fricking homosexual who is better dead. But you know it.
bruh lmao
You are a fricking b***h ass homosexual
Literally every one of you homosexual liberals are like this, someone invents some bullshit and destructive fantasy and you reward it with affirmation. Someone says something true like "sex is chromosomes" or "the universe is a perfectly logical and mathematical system" and you REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! have a nice day homosexual
The fact that people can't believe what you just posted goes to show how much of a reddit board this filled with zoomers who know nothing about shit like this happening all the time on the internet. FFS it's happened on Kiwi Farms before.
Death is the end of suffering.
Suffering is a comparatively small part of life.
Nothingness is horrible.
Real nothingness is intergalactic space.
This is such a fricked up position. Its like you've never seen someone die in excruciating end of life pain. At a certain point, when you grow up, slip a disc, shit yourself in agony, rehab for a year only to be left dependent on opiates to not vomit in agony every day, you'll come to appreciate nothingness.
There are no lessons to be learned. Chronic pain doesn't help you grow. These people can barely think anymore and just want death.
what a shit stained thread
/r/longevity
sens.org
Imagine dying because you are such an old pathetic homosexual that you couldn't even let the new generation do new science using new computer technology in peace. Good fricking riddance.
>Imagine dying because you are such an old pathetic homosexual that you couldn't even let the new generation do new science using new computer technology in peace. Good fricking riddance.
And by this I of course am referring to anyone who mocks my dark matter warp drive
>Kinda sucks that we're going to die without any real answers about the nature of existence, even though it's still much more than previous generations knew.
Wrong, Judaism is right
>he thinks death is real
ngmi. also you know nothing.
great /x/ thread bro
fun FANTASY.
>answers
How many answers do you want?
All of them
It is not possible for a finite being to know everything about the world because of the simple fact that the world, if not infinite, is certainly much larger than said finite being. You will never know everything. No one ever will.
What's the point of knowing everything? If you knew the number of atoms in a pile of shit, what's the profit? And OP didn't want to know everything, he asked a specific question.
The heckling was minimal on my first trip into the store. No one called my name, which was nice. I ate the food I bought and oserved strange peace while eating in the parking lot. No boisterous conversations suddenly started full of "random" synchronicities, and no one parked right next to me in the empty corner of the lot. As a test, I did the repeated store entry was not at all surprised to find that the nightmare is ongoing. My LEFT EYE WRIGGLER and LEFT EYE SCRATCHER were immediately activated when I walked in, and my RAPE DICK got revved way up when I was checking out. Since I didn't get raped in the second entry testr, apparrently, I pushed it with a third entry to buy some ice cream. The woman at the front of the store vigorously shook her head no at me but the implants did not get used until I got back to my car where the RAPE DICK revved back up when I began to make this post. I am wondering if the ice cream was poisoned or if I just ate a little piece of pecan shell in my butter pecan ice cream.