>let's just cram a fricking filesystem with shitton of useless features that no real user actually cares, what could go wrong?
>let's just cram a fricking filesystem with shitton of useless features that no real user actually cares, what could go wrong?
the unwritten rules of using zfs:
1) never upgrade when a new release comes out, wait a few weeks and browse the issue tracker to make sure there’s no crippling bug
2) dont enable the built in encryption feature, it’s half baked and the guy who wrote it left the project
3) make sure you have a backup pool because you WILL have to destroy/remake your main pool at some point if it gets corrupt or you frick it up some how
It honestly has gone BTRFS-bad in the last few years.
>B-BUT I NEED VDEV EXPANSION FOR MY HOME SERVER
Room temp IQ users have played their part but like the encryption shitshow has shown not all is well in the ZFS land.
I just wanted to have one robust storage system with focus on data integrity, frick I would even be fine with "legacy ZFS" from the original Sun fork with no additional features but rock solid reliability.
>It honestly has gone BTRFS-bad in the last few years.
btrfs is quite good these days
ive been using zfs on linux for about 10 years now as a /hsg/ hobbyist and ya these last two releases have shaken my faith a bit.
these are the worst bugs in recent memory:
https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526
https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15933
finally a google engineer stepped in to end the madness… just waiting on v2.2.4 now
I personally blame troon devs. If you're so obsessed with what gender you are that you wear a dress and cut your dick off you probably don't have sufficient mental stability to partake in software development for critical systems.
this is why I stick to xfs, it's old, good, simple and I can backup my entire disk with cp -a --reflink=always.
I clone my disk occasionally of course, but most of the time having file tree backed up in case of a frickup is good enough.
>2) dont enable the built in encryption feature, it’s half baked and the guy who wrote it left the project
Is it really bad? I'm using it right now, and it works well enough for me although I'm not a power user or in the view of glowies.
>useless features
>no real user actually cares
wrong
>what could go wrong?
Normie morons (who can't RTFM) could start using filesystem aimed at advanced users, fricking up in the process and posting bug reports on their own ignorance
works on my machine
then you havn’t been paying attention to the bug tracker and probably have corrupt data that a scrub won’t detect
>openzfs
Literally never had any issues with SmartOS's ZFS.
>casually measuring software quality by github issue count
we all know its the same midwit making these threads
How fricking hard could it be to code a driver for a file system, really?
FFS...
When you aren't included in Linux tree? Challenge impossible.
i use Btrfs (no raid) as boot, and mirror F2FS for storage.
everything seems fine
Open source moment
>inb4 additional silent corruption and backdoor discovered
The rampant layering violation strikes back
I'll stick to FreeBSD ZFS, thanks.
>use hobbyist software
>surprised it doesn't actually work properly
LMAO
Being jobless neet is not a profession, ZFS is used in enterprise.
Like a broken clock, HN is right twice a day
>I come from the GPFS, Lustre, and Panasas world of HPCC.
>Personally, I used (past tense) ZoL in 2014-2017 on Ubuntu. The issue is that the array eventually entered an unrecoverable state where it could no longer be mounted RW. That wasn't the end of the world, but the support from ZoL was to shrug at it. That was the end of that because without support and without pride, something that appears shiny is effectively useless.
>Been running many XFS volumes over mdadm RAID10 near-2 arrays. Zero major problems in 5+ years with over 400 TiB online. SGI's, Redhat's, and more contributions to various Linux storage components are excellent.
>My conclusion is that ZoL != Solaris ZFS. Once it left enterprise with controlled hardware and dedicated engineering & support teams, it regressed and devolved. beware of fanboys where passion and tribalism exceeds evidence and reliability.
ext4 just werks.
Yes... yes... looks like my ext4 partition is still stable with no detected data loss or errors.
How could this be?!?!
why did you reply to yourself? ext4 is most popular normie consoomer filesystem on linux, you aren't special
ext4 says "Come in"
>ZFS walks into the room
"I've called you here because your users have been reporting unaddressed abnormalities and errors in your performance."
>Y-y-yes...
"Care to explain?"