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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does it have CUDA support yet?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So better than ``like Linux''. ``Almost GNU+Linux'' except infested with FBI and infected with a cuck license. lol

      It's all I use for severs. Not very usable on the desktop though.

      >better
      >except worse
      >much worse

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's another anon doesn't know what is the use case for linux episode
        can't say I'm too surprised, but on IQfy? c'mon now bet you keep a windows 7 install too filled up to the brim with exploits and malware
        shame

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>it's another anon doesn't know what is the use case for linux episode
          what in the frick are you talking about? anon, what do you mean by use case? did you know all supercomputers are now linux? did you know linux runs in all spacecraft? did you know linux is on the majority of phones on the planet? did you know linux is almost all kiosk machines? did you know linux powers most of the servers on the internet? anon, are you really a massively stupid pedophile?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So better than ``like Linux''. ``Almost GNU+Linux'' except infested with FBI and infected with a cuck license. lol

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's all I use for severs. Not very usable on the desktop though.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I appreciate that it's not bloated with half-baked features and trashy optimizations.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I once had an abusive relationship with OpenBSD and it was nice, But now I am back on Linux which treads me well, and I love it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >had an abusive relationship
      >Linux treads me well
      >treads

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i mean just look at those big Black person lips
    at least choose FreeBSD like a white man

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the Edomite Khazarian?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonynous

      How do you see flags on IQfy? New addon?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it can run hyprland and play games I'd try it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >slow
    >no Bluetooth support
    It's a server OS and it will never be anything more by design.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >slow
      Not anymore
      >no Bluetooth support
      It used to have it, I feel like I was the only user. Dropped as a security concern and as a security focused OS I can understand that.
      >server OS
      It's dogfooded by the devs, it's a desktop OS. It even ships with multiple first party WMs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Not anymore
        Huh, seriously? That's pretty interesting, I'll have to give it another go. If the speed is in any way comparable to Linux or FreeBSD then I'll eat my own hat.
        >Dropped as a security concern and as a security focused OS I can understand that.
        To be fair, I very rarely use Bluetooth at all. I could probably do just fine without any support at all, but it is a nice feature to have just in case.
        >It's dogfooded by the devs
        FreeBSD seems to be doing just fine without this selling point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >FreeBSD seems to be doing just fine
          >he
          >doesn't
          >know

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >FreeBSD seems to be doing just fine without this selling point.
            FreeBSD is not in fact doing fine, and the fact that its devs are all gays on Macbooks is probably not helping.

            Please elaborate.
            >at its devs are all gays on Macbooks
            Yet I'm pretty sure FreeBSD has more hardware support than macOS. We're not exactly talking about a hobby project like Redox OS here.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            FreeBSD does not even support modern graphical hardware natively.
            NVIDIA for whatever reason still does provide the proprietary closed driver for it.
            AMD and Intel are only supported by leeching Linux DRM code.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >FreeBSD does not even support modern graphical hardware natively.
            Isn't that basically true for any OS except Windows and maybe Linux?

            LONG story short it has basically deteriorated into an overly politicized, half assed linux copy for special cases like use by netflix. there is no reason whatsoever to use it, it doesn't even work ootb on reasonable consumer hardware half the time. everything is relatively bloaty, hacky and poorly thought out as they try to copy linux as much as possible. openbsd has surpassed them in donations past few years. use google or the archive you lazy frick
            might as well stick with linux if you don't care about security/simplicity/correctness and care about performance and features
            [...]
            >AMD and Intel are only supported by leeching Linux DRM code
            openbsd also imports linux DRM code, that's not the reason freebsd is shit

            >use google or the archive you lazy frick
            Yeah, yeah, I know. Thanks for taking the time to explain anyway.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I ask God to write my drivers instead of pajeets.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How's that working out for you?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            does not even support modern graphical hardware natively.
            >Isn't that basically true for any OS except Windows and maybe Linux?
            It's the case for Windows, Linux (including Android) and macOS. So basically 99.9% of graphical devices.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >and macOS
            Pretty sure Apple Silicon Macs don't support graphics cards.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So they are communicating with Braille terminals or what?
            Of course they support graphics cards - their own integrated ones. They do not support external ones when running on Apple Silicon, yet.
            However running macOS on Intel hardware allows you to use eGPUs via Thunderbolt, so the OS-level support is there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >However running macOS on Intel hardware allows you to use eGPUs via Thunderbolt
            but.. it will still need drivers... internal or external

            heh I have one of those alibaba pci-express for wifi to external pci express shits here, but I never used it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but.. it will still need drivers... internal or external
            What are you on about? Apple supplies native drivers for AMD Radeons internal or external - https://support.apple.com/en-us/102363

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so amd atleast, but no pic relatated

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You know why? Apple doesn't want to deal with NVIDIA. It's a political problem, not a technical one.
            If you download the leaked NVIDIA drivers you'll see that macOS was supported internally.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You know why? Apple doesn't want to deal with NVIDIA. It's a political problem, not a technical one.
            I suspecteded this from apples side too

            but nvidia... yeah.. I haven't followed this late shit what's supposed to happen. I hope they fricking just opensauce the shit, it's not only for gfx but god damn fricking cuda as well

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Unfortunately CUDA is never, ever going to be open. It's too important.
            However their huge business partners (think cloud vendors) demanded that NVIDIA end their stupid cat-and-mouse game with the Linux kernel developers over the proprietary driver and GPL. So NVIDIA moved all the required parts into a huge firmware blob, created an open driver to interface the blob to the rest of Linux and called it that. Now there won't be breakage of NV drivers during kernel updates.
            At the same time this is going to help the open 3D nouveau driver, and the upcoming nvk driver, so at least the Linux desktop has a chance of having a fully open stack (sans that huge firmware) for modern (RTX 2000 and newer) NVIDIA hardware in the future.
            Compute is still going to be locked to NVIDIA, and that's fine since it's all userspace anyway.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the open 3D nouveau driver, and the upcoming nvk driver,
            reee why two

            also all these clusters will be stuck on linux then and can never run ie freebsd. .I don't get them man, they are holding the world hostage

            I dunno today but my campus cluster was debian, chock full of nvidia cards.. I'm sliding. heh I wonder if I still have access too it or not

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >reee why two
            Why what? The NVIDIA open driver will expose features needed to use the open Mesa 3D drivers for OpenGL and Vulkan. It was impossible before since NVIDIA forbade distribution of their firmware blobs, an obstacle they themselves now removed. That is a good thing even for BSDs - they can rip this support from Linux just like the did Intel and AMD.
            >also all these clusters will be stuck on linux then and can never run ie freebsd. .I don't get them man, they are holding the world hostage
            Why would you want to run FreeBSD on a cluster? There is no support for most features, and I doubt anyone is even testing huge machines with it. OpenBSD only recently gained proper support for multicore CPUs, so it's not any better.
            There's a reason Linux killed every single competitor in the supercomputer/HPC market, including all the paid UNIXes of the past.
            >I dunno today but my campus cluster was debian, chock full of nvidia cards.. I'm sliding. heh I wonder if I still have access too it or not
            Everyone uses Linux + NVIDIA for GPU compute because nothing else comes even close in terms of software support.
            Intel's Ponte Vecchio series of server GPUs was a failure so bad its next generation is already cancelled. They do have oneAPI which is a set of software tools that's approaching what NVIDIA offers with CUDA, but only approaches. AMD offering are laughable in comparison, and only get support for the highest end CDNA chips. There is only ONE series of modern Radeon that's officially supported in their compute stack - the RX 7900 series, whole three (3) models. Intel supports everything from iGPUs to dGPUS, same with NVIDIA.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would you want to run FreeBSD on a cluster?
            the point isn't why would you? the point is why can't you?

            who are they to set these restrictions? esp in academia..

            no I never worked on cluster mates mine did I don't know enough. but the whole point is who are they to restrict this!?!

            and all sure.. but the thing in acedemia, you are not supposed to be restricted by anyone or anything

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the point isn't why would you? the point is why can't you?
            You can. The problem is that it will perform worse than Linux and will be harder to manage.
            >who are they to set these restrictions? esp in academia..
            >no I never worked on cluster mates mine did I don't know enough. but the whole point is who are they to restrict this!?!
            >and all sure.. but the thing in acedemia, you are not supposed to be restricted by anyone or anything
            What restrictions? They use whatever tool is best for the job, and that is Linux. At least at the moment.
            It's not like Linus Torvalds is paying them to use it or anything. It's all free software and choices are based on merits, in this case performance and ease of management.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this is really on fricking nvidia though

            was going to run a partition with open on this laptop I bought last fall, but prev version didn't support my intel nic. haven't checked the new one

            freebsd 13 didn't wanna, heck most linux distros didn't in the start either. only ubuntu, so had to install gentoo via ubuntu

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            LONG story short it has basically deteriorated into an overly politicized, half assed linux copy for special cases like use by netflix. there is no reason whatsoever to use it, it doesn't even work ootb on reasonable consumer hardware half the time. everything is relatively bloaty, hacky and poorly thought out as they try to copy linux as much as possible. openbsd has surpassed them in donations past few years. use google or the archive you lazy frick
            might as well stick with linux if you don't care about security/simplicity/correctness and care about performance and features

            FreeBSD does not even support modern graphical hardware natively.
            NVIDIA for whatever reason still does provide the proprietary closed driver for it.
            AMD and Intel are only supported by leeching Linux DRM code.

            >AMD and Intel are only supported by leeching Linux DRM code
            openbsd also imports linux DRM code, that's not the reason freebsd is shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >openbsd also imports linux DRM code, that's not the reason freebsd is shit
            They are both shit in hardware support, which was the point i was responding to.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            if your hardware (laptop) is more than 3 years old it's basically guaranteed to be fully supported. hell, apmd is more reliable than linux most of the time. apropos the driver manpages to make sure

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, not a chance. I'd have given you the point of desktops having more or less equivalent support (thanks to leeching Linux), but laptops are absolutely not better supported than on Linux. Not even by a mile.
            Even SPI and I2C keyboards for modern laptops are barely supported. Only a single driver for older macbook SPI keyboards is in 14 which isn't even released. And don't get me started on touchpads, which are even more of an issue.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the only part concerning linux is the DRM graphics drivers
            here is a short list of relatively new laptops, as you can see most of which have full support:
            https://jcs.org/openbsd-laptops

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the only part concerning linux is the DRM graphics drivers
            You mean the most complex part that's not native?
            Either way those are at most 11th gen, we're on 14th gen now with 15th coming later this year. Intel is releasing a next generation driver for their Xe GPUs under Linux so there's a lot of cop... work for the BSDs incoming.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >FreeBSD seems to be doing just fine without this selling point.
          FreeBSD is not in fact doing fine, and the fact that its devs are all gays on Macbooks is probably not helping.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >FreeBSD seems to be doing just fine without this selling point.
          FreeBSD was recently abandoned by their most prominent supporter - ixSystems, creators of FreeNAS. The name was changed to TrueNAS CORE in order to disaggregate themselves from FreeBSD. Also their main edition is now Debian-, thus Linux-based TrueNAS Scale.
          They even offer upgrades from CORE to Scale.
          >Right now the plan for CORE is to release a 13.1 update in Q1 of 2024.
          >This will be a maintenance-only type update which includes an update to the FreeBSD base, OpenZFS and Samba.
          >No new features expected.
          >We have no plans for a FreeBSD 14-based TrueNAS at this time, and the 13.1 release will be a longer-lived maintenance
          It's over.
          Without ix FreeBSD wouldn't even have modern ZFS since their fork was long abandoned. They now use OpenZFS which is ZFS for Linux.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The bluetooth stack was shitty code ported from NetBSD and was dropped for that fact people are welcome to write a new stack and make a request, we will however not maintain it

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that hedgehog is full of piss

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pkg_add xfce

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What I really like about openbsd is it's out of the box networking packages. You can build own isp with openbgp and pf without any external packages

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so its bloated shit
      0.001% users use it to build own isp

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the use-case for better?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can it play games?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      On BSD games are text based adventures, yes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Played openttd on obsd. Aside an sndio bug, it worked fine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lol I think I did it too I had to check if it existed, supposedly freeciv is there too.. if it works however.. .

          some of these older ones too I am sure I've played it there

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >support for less devices
    >support for less software on those devices that do work
    >somehow better

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cuck license

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      glowie nice try go back to fsb nsa

      >reee why two
      Why what? The NVIDIA open driver will expose features needed to use the open Mesa 3D drivers for OpenGL and Vulkan. It was impossible before since NVIDIA forbade distribution of their firmware blobs, an obstacle they themselves now removed. That is a good thing even for BSDs - they can rip this support from Linux just like the did Intel and AMD.
      >also all these clusters will be stuck on linux then and can never run ie freebsd. .I don't get them man, they are holding the world hostage
      Why would you want to run FreeBSD on a cluster? There is no support for most features, and I doubt anyone is even testing huge machines with it. OpenBSD only recently gained proper support for multicore CPUs, so it's not any better.
      There's a reason Linux killed every single competitor in the supercomputer/HPC market, including all the paid UNIXes of the past.
      >I dunno today but my campus cluster was debian, chock full of nvidia cards.. I'm sliding. heh I wonder if I still have access too it or not
      Everyone uses Linux + NVIDIA for GPU compute because nothing else comes even close in terms of software support.
      Intel's Ponte Vecchio series of server GPUs was a failure so bad its next generation is already cancelled. They do have oneAPI which is a set of software tools that's approaching what NVIDIA offers with CUDA, but only approaches. AMD offering are laughable in comparison, and only get support for the highest end CDNA chips. There is only ONE series of modern Radeon that's officially supported in their compute stack - the RX 7900 series, whole three (3) models. Intel supports everything from iGPUs to dGPUS, same with NVIDIA.

      I understand man, nobody can compete with nvidia. is just a big problem when they do like this buurp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Irrelevant for users

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It needs Wine support. That keeps me on Linux, sorry.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wine openbsd.. hahahahahaha

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It needs Wine support.
      WINE is dependent on Linux now or systems with GNU-isms.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically use it because it's less mainstream than linux

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just sad.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Less sad than Linux users, who only use Linux because it's less mainstream than Windows.

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