>look at literally any literary magazine
>they all say they want diverse authors
Should I just pretend I’m diverse? I’m only gonna be talking through email so no way they could know I’m not a gay black man
>look at literally any literary magazine. >they all say they want diverse authors
I only ask you to own it and fess up if you get caught. Don’t take the Elizabeth Warren/Rachel Dolezal route. If you get caught, say “I did this because they wouldn’t publish White men, so I pretended to be a gay black cripple so they’d accept my writing”
I mean, my stories aren’t about gays or blacks or the experience of being one anyway. Maybe some feature characters who happen to be in a wheelchair or gay, or non white. But none of this has anything to Dow it’s their stories beyond basic characteristics.
So I do wonder what level of outrage you could have.
If I was writing a story about the suffering of being a closeted gay black man and added i am a gay black man IRL so this is more than just fiction. I can see why some people would be upset.
But if they’re upset I misled them just because they don’t want white men writing for them regardless of quality then that’s on them.
Just say you're nonbinary trans. They can't prove you wrong, there are plenty of people who identify as nonbinary but look like cis men
>Just say you're nonbinary trans. They can't prove you wrong, there are plenty of people who identify as nonbinary but look like cis men
Imagine future literary historians looking back at our current age and speculating on who was closet cis in the same way that literary historians today look back at 18th/19th century writers and speculate on who were closeted gays.
Screw that, it’s way funnier to stick to your guns. Imagine the media tornado about this clearly white guy who got published as a queer black woman lol
Question from a non-American non-writer.
How hard is it for a straight white dude, who doesn't write genre fiction to get published?
95% of job creation following covid was explicitly earmarked for the exclusion of white men
in technical/service fields
now imagine a field like lilt where they dont even consistently care about producing anything of actual merit or quality
kalki's reincarnation is supposed to be a caucasian. must be a coincidence
She's a progressive liberal but she's knows I'm "conservative," so she sent me a screenshot of the image and said even she thought that that was going too far.
What's really funny is that this all started going to hell for them two years ago when Russia invaded Ukraine. Then last year when Hamas killed all those people in Israel and Israel started going apeshit in Gaza. Now all of a sudden the people in charge face the prospect of needing white men back in society so they can fight the wars that are clearly coming up, but white men no longer want to participate and thus far have not been persuaded back.
Imagine if the entire American Empire just falls apart because of "diversity." I guess it wouldn't be the dumbest way an empire has historically gone out.
Post screenshot for proof
This was right after the coof, 3 years ago, so I don't have the image. Most of the email made it very obvious the specific company she works for, so almost half of the email would need to be redacted. It's trivially easy to fake email screenshots anyway.
Right now her team has two white males, one is bisexual and one is transgender, both hired before the coof. All of the white males hired after Q2 of 2022 were temps and none of their contracts were renewed, so all of her team and the teams involved in the company are something like 40% white females, 10% other females, 25% poos, 25% asian men.
post it gay
My mother works for a fortune 500 medical company and the entire company received an email saying that recruiters would receive a 20% bonus for hiring people that are not white males, and that their performance would "go under review" if they were found to have hired a white male.
Very interesting.
Does you mother have any insight into how hard or easy it is to get away with simply claiming to be black on a job application?
In lit fiction (in the US at least) they may throw up a line like OP pic but they generally don't ask you about your race or anything. Most journals in lit fiction just ask name, email, how you want the piece credited if it gets published and sometimes have a spot to write 25 or 50 words about yourself/your writing. Most people don't talk about gender and race in those blurbs from what I have seen. Only journals I can think of which ask about such things explicitly are journals which serve that demographic.
They don't actually care. They will continue to publish the same upper middle class mfa graduates they went to college with.
They just say stuff like this to burnish their credentials
They very much do care. There are tons of reports of HR/admissions/publishing ladies just instantly throwing away applications by yt men
They say that, and yet literary journals continue to be filled by upper middle class mfa graduates and academics. Consider:
https://www.therialto.co.uk/pages/product/rialto-magazine-101/
Or
https://acumen-poetry.co.uk/product/acumen-108-january-2024/
Or
https://poetrylondon.co.uk/shop/spring-2024-issue-107/
Lots of white men there, very few crippled gays.
This is what seems to be the case. I wish I had the resources to start a journal that would refuse to publish writers who either have MFAs or went to elite universities.
Say you're neurodivergent.
It's probably true
Even if it isn't, they can't prove it
If they reject you, say you'll have a nice day unless they publish you
Just pretend to be israeli, it's an easier con than pretending to be black or indian.
until they hit you with the
>show foreskin
Jews are no longer seen as victims of oppression, they're in the same tier as straight white men
Jews experience a higher rate of hatred induced violence than any other race.
genital mutilation cultists are subhuman garbage
Can't you just claim to identify as non-binary? There's not really any clear criteria for what it would mean for that to be falsified. Or just say you're bisexual and there just haven't yet happened to be any men who both struck your fancy and that you were in a position to date.
You're still white/cis/male, which has a quota because it doesn't sell well and hasn't for 30 years now. Not even israelites get published the way they used to. The best you can do is identify with some marginal group like hillbillies or trailer trash if you engage in the game at all.
You're wrong and not wrong. White men aren't writing anything different on the whole right now, it's all pretty shitty across the board, but few of the chingchongs are outside their own diaspora culture enough to have anything profound to say about it. It's a trend and the literature is far below the bestseller list.
The chingchongs are at least attempting to write about their contemporary reality and produce something new. They don't sit there obsessing over 150 year old memes like Dostoevsky or feel sorry for themselves because le canon is over and literature is dead. Whatever they are up to is better than the lazy defeatism on offer here
This is a fair point. Frankly, when you think about it, how many of these literary magazines that hype up "diversity" actually sell much? How many people ACTUALLY read these stories? What's their circulation?
The entire current literary system in North America, from the major publishing houses to the major literary magazines to the small presses to the small magazines, all seems like it's running on fumes. What about those stats from a few months ago that said most of the books the major publishers published sold less than 1000 copies?
They can tout "diversity" all they want, the fact of the matter is, people aren't buying. People want something GOOD, and the legacy system basically doesn't produce that any more. So any Anons on IQfy who think they have something good on their hands should start looking for alternatives. Something outside the system, to get their writing in front of readers. Because the system doesn't know how to generate good literature any more and frankly may not even want to.
>They can tout "diversity" all they want, the fact of the matter is, people aren't buying. People want something GOOD, and the legacy system basically doesn't produce that any more. So any Anons on IQfy who think they have something good on their hands should start looking for alternatives.
I wonder what alternative is possible. There are probably smart, creative people out there. Maybe not a Dostoevsky, but at least someone decent enough.
Whatever happened to quality standards?
That’s not progressive enough, sweaty
Equity became more important than this.
You also have to pretend there is no quality difference or even that the new stuff is superior since there is a lot more diversity.
This is what you tell yourself. The harsher truth is that Asian american women are writing better than white men right now. They are picking the best, they are discriminating on quality - and it's on white men to get better
>nooooo magazines should only promote authors that offer an insular and narrow perspective and worldview
>it's not fair that people different than me have an opportunity to tell their stories!
Yes. There is a very large amount of diverse perspectives in literary magazines and literary awards. That's totally what they are looking for.
I hate modern civilization and I can't wait for it to die.
It says especially, not exclusively.
a rhetorical distinction without real world difference
For legal reasons. But if anyone said "especially looking for whites or men" you'd be losing your shit right now.
>if anyone said "especially looking for whites or men" you'd be losing your shit right now.
Whites are already extremely well represented in western media, why would anyone need to specifically request them?
Cause their stories are the only ones worth telling
Insularity isn't a virtue, anon.
Have you considered making your own magazine, like the Mars Review of Books or the works published in the Passage Prize? You could run your own magazine and choose whose stuff goes in.
The people who get published solely for being "diverse" are writing shit. Why do you want to write shit? Try writing something good instead.
>It's impossible to get published as a white male author!!!!
No it isn't. There may be a higher standard for white male writers to get published, but that shouldn't matter to you if your goal is actually to write something good instead of just getting published for the sake of it.
Also, what this anon said:
There is no real barrier to getting published if you are a good writer. IQfy is filled with bad writers who believe they are good and blame their publication failure on "Woke" editors. The real mistake is not that Woke editors reject bad white male writers. It's that they accept bad "diverse" writers. The argument should be for more rejections across the board, not more acceptances.
tell them you're an underage transgender prostitute. that gets them excited, NO FAIL.
https://rumble.com/v2zn8qm-retro-degeneracy-resurgence.html
I personally know two published authors and they’re both young straight white men writing genre fic (and, as much as I enjoy their friendship, their books are bad, though I’d never tell them that). I suspect the whole “only non-straight white men can get published” narrative is exaggerated. The REAL barrier to getting published is that genre fic targeted at young people is the only somewhat lucrative field right now, so you’d better get to writing self inserts going on trope-filled adventures written with a heaping of twitter-isms if you want to get books off the shelves. The whole publishing industry is going my through a slow, painful disintegrating upheaval right now.
yes try it, it works
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Derrick_Hudson
Tell them you're autistic
>Spam journals
That is about the worst thing you can do. Editors have a huge number of submissions to work through and if they recognize your name as that terrible writer who for the past year has made the maximum number of submissions every month and shown no growth or change they are going to start skipping over your submissions. If you are going to get a reputation with a journal's editor you want to make certain that reputation is one that you want.
This is not so much of an issue with the larger journals since submissions don't go right to the editors and their submission guidelines/windows limit you to a few submissions a year but it is a real concern with the smaller journals.
Also, only send a piece to one journal at a time, no good can come of sending the same piece to a dozen journals at once. Telling them sorry, it got published somewhere else is a sure way to get them to pass on future works by you.
An individual writer can't be 'diverse'. Diverse in this context means 'from several different backgrounds', and you personally cannot be from several different backgrounds. They didn't commit that solipsism in their screenshot - this one's on you.