Malacca Sultanate

>Has the most powerful geographical position, being the medium between the western world and the eastern world
>Still jobs and spends the rest of its time getting colonised
How did this happen?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    tropical heat causes lethargy for half the year

    it kills their desire to exert effort, and theyre fairly content with being background characters in their own country provided they're still able to raise families and have a voice in politics.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This, I spent done time in Central America, time feels like it's moving slower when it feels so hot. LKY in Singapore was right when he said the most important aspect of Singapore's success was air conditioning.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The entire area that is now peninsular Malaysia, plus the malay parts of Thailand, had a population of less than half a million in the 1830s. It was even less back then. Sumatra was similarly sparsely populated.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A better question is how can they prevent it again. Malaysia should embark on conquest as soon as possible, claiming Thailand and Cambodia, and as much of Indonesia as possible, but mainly just the west for starters.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because if they don't, they're literally doomed to become a Chinese client state like the Philippines.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why was Malaysia so unpopulated compared to Thailand back then? The climate of Thailand and Malaysia is the same too.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thailand had a population of less than 5 million at the time, which is pretty small. But the answer probably lies in terrain. The Chao Phraya basin is flat and fertile, extremely good for rice cultivation.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Following up on this: go take a look through google earth at what the countryside of Malaysia and Thailand are like. Even in the flat areas, Malaysia is full of large plantations of trees with houses and villages sparsely places, whereas Thailand is a vast jumble of small fields and villages.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Malaysia more urbanized than thailand

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Only very recently
            Malays didn’t even have stone building before colonials taught them to build it, they’re Philippine tier. They’re no match of Thailand

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They did actually (albeit small), too bad the Malays built it in the wrong side of the strait

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > what is srivijaya

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Malays didn’t even have stone building
            literal moron tier opinions

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Even the quip about the Philippine tier having no stone buildings is false. They had stone structures before the Spanish came.

            Stone fortresses in Mindoro...

            . The other two hills are very craggy and thus form a defense to the pass for the natives. Many armed Moros appeared on the first hill—bowmen, lancers, and some gunners, linstocks in hand. All along the hillside stood a large number of culverins. The foot of the hill was fortified by ---a stone wall--- over fourteen feet thick.

            ~http://www.philippinehistory.net/first50/manila.htm

            Stone city in Cainta...

            Descriptions of early chroniclers say that the polity was surrounded by bamboo thickets, defended by a log wall, ---stone bulwarks--- and several lantakas, and that an arm of the Pasig River flowed through the middle of the city, dividing it into two settlements

            ~https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cainta_(historical_polity)#:~:text=In%20early%20Philippine%20history%2C%20the,arm%20of%20the%20Pasig%20River.

            Stone city in Cotabato...

            Cotabato derives its name from the Maguindanaon word kuta watu (from Malay - "Kota Batu"), meaning "stone fort", referring to the stone fort which served as the seat of Sultan Muhammad Kudarat in what is now Cotabato City (which the province derives its name from).

            ~https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotabato

            Stone fortresses in Batanes...

            In 1994, Eusebio Dizon, the deputy director of the National Museum of the Philippines, went to Batanes with his team for an archeological project. They found a triangular-shaped hill in Savidug, a town in Sabtang. These structures were called ijang.[3][2] Ijangs are similar to the "gusuku" (Stone) castles found in Okinawa, Japan.

            ~https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijang

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Following up on this: go take a look through google earth at what the countryside of Malaysia and Thailand are like. Even in the flat areas, Malaysia is full of large plantations of trees with houses and villages sparsely places, whereas Thailand is a vast jumble of small fields and villages.

          Alright thanks, but if that is the case then how come Vietnam and the Philippines which were also quite vegetated back then have almost triple the population of Malaysia now?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Vietnam has the Red and Mekong deltas, which are very arable. Don't know much about the Philippines but google earth suggests that it has larger areas of flatland.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        malays are easygoing people. that's generally a good thing, but the lack of autism and violence led to a lack of competition which held them back in the long run obviously. they needed to be warlike like zhou era chinese

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Malay
          >easygoing
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketuanan_Melayu

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            How is this still going even in current year? I still don't understand.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They’re very weak even at their prime
    Imagine getting conquered by bunch of Portuguese explorer who only came to SEA for the first time, thats Philippine / Latin America tier

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where did the Sultanates get their money from? And is it true that most of the Sultanate's didn't have a standing army and instead relied on mercenaries?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Malaysians so short and can their heights be fixed with proper dieting, or are they screwed?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure man. But it does seem people are getting taller. I was around 168cm, and I still ended up being the shortest guy in class

      But local girls are for the most part, shorter than me, so it all works out

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They did until Europeans arrived where even one of their smaller ships could pelt their navy from a distance with cannon fire and blockade their capital. The Chinese needed around 10 times more junks and fluke advantages in the chaos of war to gain victories over the Portuguese. Malacca simply lacked these resources.

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