There are multiple different kinds of Feminists. Antwood is the kind that is spiritually male and physically female. Think about it - who would write a massive series about women being kept as breeding stock? Deeply horny men and Antwood. Antwood has the masculine instinct to be in charge and have power but realizes, to her horror, that, as a woman, this still serves men sexually. In our culture, when a woman pleasures a man, we see this as her being servile and evidence of natural inferiority because, historically speaking, woman surrenders herself - her independence and agency for his security and safety in exchange for sex. Any straight man forced into these situations becomes resentful and desires to overthrow those who put them there and thus the feminist is born. They want to be men but are prevented from doing so by society and lash out at the existence of the gender construct.
Nowadays, they just transition and it's not an issue. Huge reason why there's no zoomer feminists.
You agree with me
Thats why I talked about her animus acting up
Spiritually male, pyhsically female
Seh needs a good dicking to remember herself she is a breedable piece of meat
As Nietzsche said, the solution to all the problems of women is pregnancy
So what you're saying is you think the material takes precedence to the spiritual? Hyllic take: the flesh must be wrenched to the spirit.
>The Second Sex Simone de Beauvoir writes something similar about how women objectify themselves when they watch themselves getting dressed and undressed in front of the mirror, how they look at their own bodies with the so called male gaze.
This makes perfect sense >And even how when they are being fricked dissociate from the situation and imagine themselves as being the man fricking a woman.
This has to be de Beauvoir weird's fetish.
She was also a dude in a woman's body.
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>So what you're saying is you think the material takes precedence to the spiritual?
In the woman, yes. They are the hyllics anon, Im just describing them, dont minx things up, or you would think Flaubert is an hysterical woman
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Who told you they were women? They are as much women are you are- probably less. Again, you define a thing's internal nature by their external nature first. You see the world as true and the spirit as false.
>Huge reason why there's no zoomer feminists.
You lie
Surveys show that Zoomers no longer identify as "feminists."
What kind of feminist would you say Dworkin was?
100% a man and would have been a really good man at that. Such courage and fire! It's a shame how their potential was twisted into resentment.
Plenty of women are more masculine these days though and do live that way. You see it all the time women who refuse to surrender to men in any capacity.
And read about how they feel about life after being subjected to that. Read de beauvoir.
>who would write a massive series about women being kept as breeding stock?
Women love that shit. Think of the threads on IQfy where guys simp for women who would step on them.
>who would write a massive series about women being kept as breeding stock? >implying women don't get hysterical over it only because of the religious (Christian) undertones and if it instead was about some Aryan eugenics program where only the top females were selected, they'd be proud to be part of it, even envious if they weren't chosen and possibly even revolt about being left out
Plenty of women are more masculine these days though and do live that way. You see it all the time women who refuse to surrender to men in any capacity.
Sounds like she stole this from John Berger, but made it less eloquent and gayer
Here's Berger's quote: >“A woman must continually watch herself. She is almost continually accompanied by her own image of herself. Whilst she is walking across a room or whilst she is weeping at the death of her father, she can scarcely avoid envisaging herself walking or weeping. From earliest childhood she has been taught and persuaded to survey herself continually. And so she comes to consider the surveyor and the surveyed within her as the two constituent yet always distinct elements of her identity as a woman. She has to survey everything she is and everything she does because how she appears to men, is of crucial importance for what is normally thought of as the success of her life. Her own sense of being in herself is supplanted by a sense of being appreciated as herself by another.... >One might simplify this by saying: men act and women appear. Men look at women. Women watch themselves being looked at. This determines not only most relations between men and women but also the relation of women to themselves. The surveyor of woman in herself is male: the surveyed female. Thus she turns herself into an object -- and most particularly an object of vision: a sight.”
This is how i feel about myself and im male. Since I hit puberty I've always been concerned with how I appear to other people and that if I don't reach a certain standard then my life is meaningless. The only reason this is considered a 'woman' problem is because women are the sex that is general considered worth looking at, whereas men are usually taught from childhood they are not worth seeing.
>whereas men are usually taught from childhood they are not worth seeing.
i wish this were actually true, the modern male has the ego the size of the moon.
>That entire paragraph describing my mindset
Am I actually a women.
I don't want to cut my dick off.
The book he wrote was published in the early 70s, and it expanded on a tv documentary series he did in the 60's.
I would not be surprised if men feel this way now too. Portable cameras and social media have irreversibly warped people's brains. Almost everyone has been trained into this way of thinking of being seen as an object. You are always aware that you can be filmed or photographed at any time. In the past it was primarily women who experienced this because they were always an object of attention from men. Now we are all the objects of attention from cameras and social media. Men are no longer the primary observers of reality, but the camera which dominates every public space from streets, to the grocery store, to concerts, etc. Everyone has one in their pocket and you are aware at all times that someone could post you online for millions to see. You are no longer in control. The result is you see yourself as an object being perceived, like a woman.
You should read the book "No More Mr Nice Guy" by Robert Glover, it deals with overcoming this kind of highly self-conscious, people pleasing, perfection seeking mindset
don't fall for the troll hag >whereas men are usually taught from childhood they are not worth seeing.
men aren't taught shit (especially in the last century) and if they are, it's "it matters what you do, not who you are / how you look"
and even if he is not a troll hag, it still means that you are wanting to transform a decent homosexual who would evolve naturally into a respectable and accomplished person... you to hijack that into an LGBT child abusing flaming homosexual
so next time think before you give unsolicited advice
no, you were just raised like one. men have been thinking like women increasingly over the past few generations. "men act, women appear" - now remember how eliot rodgers' big strategy for getting pussy was to read books in public and wait for women to approach him. modern men are raised to think like girls and it makes them go insane
That's pretty true when I reflect on my childhood. Better yet, my father never taught what it is to be a man or how to be one when I hit puberty. Probably because he himself was/is domesticated
Provide me the basis for the proper mindset of a man , that isn't "bee urself" or will get me arrested
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i think the key is wanting things directly, for their own sake, as opposed to what they "mean." a man wants a nice car because of how it feels to drive it, a woman wants to be given a nice car by her man as proof of her value to him, a feminized/narcissistic man buys the car because he thinks the kind of guy he wants to be seen as would drive that kind of car, and then paradoxically feels even further away from feeling like that guy... a sane man does things to do them, not for some other reason, but it's not something you can just flip your mind into if you weren't raised that way.
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I want to look good, and I want to be seen looking good, but it's not about being the man who looks good its very self focused. I don't know if I overlap with what you are describing, you seem to be indicating a man obessed with fitting a mental mold as opposed to myself who is merely vain.
You’re right. This is more difficult to decipher and pretentiously written. But she does seem to have made the companion piece, a reflection, a key to his lock. But you seem offended that she should even try to alliterate an answer. You gay or something?
yeah that's why an eternal 14 year old is dangerous to give the right to vote...
now combine that with all the crap media is filling their heads with
pic related is the right way: the Japanese way that managed to make use of the western culture their own way ~ with damage that is far less annoying than tons of street shitters (like in Eastern Europe, but also spreading in Western Europe), the literal scum of the Arab & Turkish world (Western Europe), or hyper-agressive non-white criminals (like in the USA)
I know that somewhere in The Second Sex Simone de Beauvoir writes something similar about how women objectify themselves when they watch themselves getting dressed and undressed in front of the mirror, how they look at their own bodies with the so called male gaze. And even how when they are being fricked dissociate from the situation and imagine themselves as being the man fricking a woman.
>The Second Sex Simone de Beauvoir writes something similar about how women objectify themselves when they watch themselves getting dressed and undressed in front of the mirror, how they look at their own bodies with the so called male gaze.
This makes perfect sense >And even how when they are being fricked dissociate from the situation and imagine themselves as being the man fricking a woman.
This has to be de Beauvoir weird's fetish.
I remember her also saying somewhere, near the beginning I think, that women raised by single men are often psychologically healthier because the man has a normal mind and can't pass on all these sorts of neuroses to them. He just teaches them to be a little man, same as he would a son, because he thinks a kid is a kid.
Women seem trapped in a permanent narcissism but also a weird self-pity and the two seem related, part of why they're so infinitely interesting (to themselves) is that they are infinitely pitiable
In reality of course it's just a moronic child with too many opinions about candle smells
That’s because women are hardwired to seek out status and attention.
Men measure worth of a partner by what is considered physically healthy and fail to see the garbage underneath. It’s simple, honest and direct. Women can’t deal with the simplicity of it and claim men are underevolved as a result.
Women measure the worth of a partner by their psychological/physical power and how men can translate it into the acquisition of material goods and status for the woman. Women can’t consider the very real possibility that this power might manifest as abuse towards themselves because every woman plays with fire in every single fricking social interaction and attempts manipulation games as a means to see how far they can push their partner to achieve more. Women respect men who aren’t easily manipulated, but can still be manipulated, but only by them. Men, of course, see women as total psychos because their selection process is overly complex, manipulative (duh) and far more likely to fail with spectacularly bad results than it is to succeed.
Men being problem solvers see women complain about the abuse they indirectly inflict upon themselves (and never take responsibility for, because men would never pity women if they ever figure out just how much abuse is actually self-inflicted) and reinvent themselves as “nice guys”, because it’s the obvious solution. Women reject this solution outright because men who roll over on command don’t satisfy any of their needs.
Housewives want the kind Dr Jekyll in the home and the monstrous Mr Hyde in the workforce.
Career women want the meek Dr Jekyll in the workforce, so they can use them as ladder rungs, and the animalistic Mr Hyde beneath the sheets.
Men, after seeing this manipulative bullshit duality of woman, want to be Hulk in the wilderness - away from everyone.
Women will never respect other women, because they hate being manipulated, too. Which is why they don’t want leaders when they form a social group. They know someone is going to abuse the power. Their entire collective structure is based on status over achievement.
Hey prostitute, how’s it feel to know you’re being passed over for farmers in third-world countries?
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What's that lace thing around her head called? It's so cute.
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Tbh being a farmer is an extremely dignified position. The fact they are third world is less of a statement about them, and more about the unfortunate circumstances of their birth. I respect them more than any first world office dwelling urbanite.
And this is why the wise author never writes women as they actually are and only as how they present themselves. Women can not stand to see the reflection of their own manipulative/manipulated inner selves and piss on anyone and anything who threatens to pull back the curtain.
It’s why women, despite being more social than men, can’t actually accomplish anything with other women; why they’re far more likely to fall victim to body dysmorphia, and much more likely to undergo plastic surgery. It’s why abuse/rape victims blame themselves. It’s why women fawn over fiction that features attractive abusive men and heroic female manipulators. It’s also why feminists do everything in their power to claim happy housewives are actually oppressed. It’s all the self-inflicted, self loathing.
The whole “Karen” stereotype of middle-aged women like entitled b***hes is basically just post-wall women seething at the fact that they’ve lost the privileged social position that they had back when they were still young and pretty
This has been my experience trying to date in my late-twenties. The girls my age are hitting the wall and are terrified, and the ones who already have are so desperate for attention it verges on being unsightly. The slightly older 30-somethings (I've only entertained a few) will send you paragraph upon paragraph right out the gate, prattling on about communication, knowing what you want, etc., but will positively reek of desperation for it. I haven't the heart to tell them what they already know about themselves. They made their own choices.
This is just high anxiety thinking. Constant underlining fear of being a social outcast or of being treated badly that needs no traumatic event to be caused. Just, unchecked anxiety run amuck applied to being female. She's attaching taking care of herself physically, being worried about social status, and general societal norms ingrained simce childhood to the men in her life instead of the society she lives in. She is stuck in her own head amd blames others for it.
>narcissists are self-obsessed and project their self-obsession onto others by assuming that everyone else must be obsessed with them too
It underlines the core of a lot of ideologies, both left and right wing people are prone to thinking that the “elites” are actively oppressing them out of malice when really they don’t give a shit about them and are only acting to serve their own interests
If women don’t like a male dominated world, they can go frick off to that one city in the entire world, in the entire history of mankind that was built and maintained by women.
Women will never build one either, because, after all, what’s a parasite without a host?
We would most likely win the argument if it was an argument about literature. Perhaps we would lose in an argument about politics but this isn't a board about politics - not every board is /misc/.
Because literature never delves into philosophy, the humanities or politics.
You moronic homosexual
No, but because the level of political discourse you want to employ is simply detestable. You don't want to hear a different position because months and months of careful political posturing has rendered your ability to hear arguments in a socratic fashion, let alone dialectic, is onerous for you.
You're not here to come to a conclusion about politics, you just want to impose your own conclusions onto everyone else.
TLDR; Frick off right leave and suck-start a shotgun, chop chop. That way, the pathetic excuse of a prefrontal cortex can finally feel relief from being your personal crusty intellectual onahole.
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There isn't even a discussion about politics in this thread. What are you babbling about?
1 month ago
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You sound hysterical >you just want to impose your own conclusions onto everyone else
And you don't want to?
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They are incapable of self-awareness. Socratic questioning is a dime a dozen on /misc/. Or it was when I used to post there.
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>Or it was when I used to post there
It's trash now filled with shills and bots
The difference between a fantasy and reality is that a fantasy exists only in the mind and doesn't exert influence on the world. So by this logic it would seem that everything is run by male realities. What becomes real is ultimately whatever possibility has the power to dominate and overcome other possibilities.
>the most misogynistic board on IQfy (/r9k/) in 2012 >still 20-30% dedicated misogynyposters vs. 70-80% normie "lol ur virgin" downvoter tourists >IQfy in 2020 >90% misogynyposters vs. 10% normie "frick u incel i fricking hate incels this place fricking sucks now i'm leaving for reddit/twitter fricking incels" whineposters >society in general in 2024 >90% misogynyposters and self-hating post-feminist post-wall women who also themselves acknowledge they fricked up big time vs. 10% aging millennial urbanites still trying to thoughtpolice misogyny as "not cool bro, not cool"
Misogynybros... we won
females neither have the compass-like guidance of the Supreme Organ, nor the freedom afforded by the Empire of Nutsack where the balls are free to travel and mingle and play around
they live in a Squishy World like pic related, where neither air nor light can penetrate unless at the price of Death (hence why the French call the orgasm the "little death")
not that that's a bad thing... it's life
Men are born to be number one in a family, and women are born to be their number 2.
The pozzed anti-human propaganda being spread by the elite wants to paint being number 2 as bad, but that role is very important to a family.
When women try to be the number 1 member stress ensues, leading to mental illness. They're going against nature
having a girl is a luxury
since the French Revolution (and especially since the 1950s), only a few categories could afford luxuries:
1. career criminals or at least people who can't abstain from lying, killing, and dispossessing working men
2. self-indulgent homosexuals, who are the "diet pepsi" version of the career criminals (why would a homosexual, a male person whose core identity is based on and revolves around being fricked in the ass and sucking dicks, marry and have children? ever thought of that?)
3. communists, who catalyze the above two categories... initially for fun and profit... but today because they would literally die of hunger otherwise
and the "girls" shat out by the above three categories, invariably brain washed from the moment they left the vegana, are the ones who will reproduce and brain wash their children regardless of their husband's wishes (husband who btw if probably blackmailed and extorted from the first moment he laid eyes on her)
because what I just described is what it means to live in a non-Abrahamic world
I used to agree with her quote, and while I still do, I think she is too blackpilled for my tastes, as there are many ways women do not have to be scrutinized in such a monolith. If I ever got divorced I would want to spend the rest of my life in education for children or go to a nunnery.
Men rent an entire building on a feminists mind
They just lack good dicking to remember them they are a body and to keep their animus from acting up
There are multiple different kinds of Feminists. Antwood is the kind that is spiritually male and physically female. Think about it - who would write a massive series about women being kept as breeding stock? Deeply horny men and Antwood. Antwood has the masculine instinct to be in charge and have power but realizes, to her horror, that, as a woman, this still serves men sexually. In our culture, when a woman pleasures a man, we see this as her being servile and evidence of natural inferiority because, historically speaking, woman surrenders herself - her independence and agency for his security and safety in exchange for sex. Any straight man forced into these situations becomes resentful and desires to overthrow those who put them there and thus the feminist is born. They want to be men but are prevented from doing so by society and lash out at the existence of the gender construct.
Nowadays, they just transition and it's not an issue. Huge reason why there's no zoomer feminists.
You agree with me
Thats why I talked about her animus acting up
Spiritually male, pyhsically female
Seh needs a good dicking to remember herself she is a breedable piece of meat
As Nietzsche said, the solution to all the problems of women is pregnancy
>As Nietzsche said, the solution to all the problems of women is pregnancy
Evidently, Nietzsche never got a woman pregnant if he believed that.
Forgive him, he was Polish
So what you're saying is you think the material takes precedence to the spiritual? Hyllic take: the flesh must be wrenched to the spirit.
She was also a dude in a woman's body.
>So what you're saying is you think the material takes precedence to the spiritual?
In the woman, yes. They are the hyllics anon, Im just describing them, dont minx things up, or you would think Flaubert is an hysterical woman
Who told you they were women? They are as much women are you are- probably less. Again, you define a thing's internal nature by their external nature first. You see the world as true and the spirit as false.
Insightful, thanks.
>there's no zoomer feminists
you made me choke on my coffee, frick you anon. How the frick can you say something that out of touch.
Surveys show that Zoomers no longer identify as "feminists."
100% a man and would have been a really good man at that. Such courage and fire! It's a shame how their potential was twisted into resentment.
And read about how they feel about life after being subjected to that. Read de beauvoir.
>Huge reason why there's no zoomer feminists.
You lie
What kind of feminist would you say Dworkin was?
>Huge reason why there's no zoomer feminists
You should come to my office wagie job
>who would write a massive series about women being kept as breeding stock?
Women love that shit. Think of the threads on IQfy where guys simp for women who would step on them.
>who would write a massive series about women being kept as breeding stock?
>implying women don't get hysterical over it only because of the religious (Christian) undertones and if it instead was about some Aryan eugenics program where only the top females were selected, they'd be proud to be part of it, even envious if they weren't chosen and possibly even revolt about being left out
Plenty of women are more masculine these days though and do live that way. You see it all the time women who refuse to surrender to men in any capacity.
>Antwood is the kind that is spiritually male and physically female.
troony shit, didn't read the rest. kys
And Anne Rice was a male homosexual in a woman's body.
I'm gay and love her shit. 100% I love girls who are really just gay dudes.
Every woman - barring the true crone or vestal -remains dickless homosexual until the harrowing of live birth.
>rent
More like squat
Sounds like she stole this from John Berger, but made it less eloquent and gayer
Here's Berger's quote:
>“A woman must continually watch herself. She is almost continually accompanied by her own image of herself. Whilst she is walking across a room or whilst she is weeping at the death of her father, she can scarcely avoid envisaging herself walking or weeping. From earliest childhood she has been taught and persuaded to survey herself continually. And so she comes to consider the surveyor and the surveyed within her as the two constituent yet always distinct elements of her identity as a woman. She has to survey everything she is and everything she does because how she appears to men, is of crucial importance for what is normally thought of as the success of her life. Her own sense of being in herself is supplanted by a sense of being appreciated as herself by another....
>One might simplify this by saying: men act and women appear. Men look at women. Women watch themselves being looked at. This determines not only most relations between men and women but also the relation of women to themselves. The surveyor of woman in herself is male: the surveyed female. Thus she turns herself into an object -- and most particularly an object of vision: a sight.”
This is o e of the most insightful things I ever read about women. Does John have more interesting things to say like this?
This is how i feel about myself and im male. Since I hit puberty I've always been concerned with how I appear to other people and that if I don't reach a certain standard then my life is meaningless. The only reason this is considered a 'woman' problem is because women are the sex that is general considered worth looking at, whereas men are usually taught from childhood they are not worth seeing.
>whereas men are usually taught from childhood they are not worth seeing.
i wish this were actually true, the modern male has the ego the size of the moon.
And that’s a bad thing because?
The book he wrote was published in the early 70s, and it expanded on a tv documentary series he did in the 60's.
I would not be surprised if men feel this way now too. Portable cameras and social media have irreversibly warped people's brains. Almost everyone has been trained into this way of thinking of being seen as an object. You are always aware that you can be filmed or photographed at any time. In the past it was primarily women who experienced this because they were always an object of attention from men. Now we are all the objects of attention from cameras and social media. Men are no longer the primary observers of reality, but the camera which dominates every public space from streets, to the grocery store, to concerts, etc. Everyone has one in their pocket and you are aware at all times that someone could post you online for millions to see. You are no longer in control. The result is you see yourself as an object being perceived, like a woman.
You should read the book "No More Mr Nice Guy" by Robert Glover, it deals with overcoming this kind of highly self-conscious, people pleasing, perfection seeking mindset
don't fall for the troll hag
>whereas men are usually taught from childhood they are not worth seeing.
men aren't taught shit (especially in the last century) and if they are, it's "it matters what you do, not who you are / how you look"
and even if he is not a troll hag, it still means that you are wanting to transform a decent homosexual who would evolve naturally into a respectable and accomplished person... you to hijack that into an LGBT child abusing flaming homosexual
so next time think before you give unsolicited advice
I'm sorry to tell you John, that's the human condition, not in anyway exclusive to females.
>That entire paragraph describing my mindset
Am I actually a women.
I don't want to cut my dick off.
No you're just anxious.
That's what a woman is like.
no, you were just raised like one. men have been thinking like women increasingly over the past few generations. "men act, women appear" - now remember how eliot rodgers' big strategy for getting pussy was to read books in public and wait for women to approach him. modern men are raised to think like girls and it makes them go insane
That's pretty true when I reflect on my childhood. Better yet, my father never taught what it is to be a man or how to be one when I hit puberty. Probably because he himself was/is domesticated
Provide me the basis for the proper mindset of a man , that isn't "bee urself" or will get me arrested
i think the key is wanting things directly, for their own sake, as opposed to what they "mean." a man wants a nice car because of how it feels to drive it, a woman wants to be given a nice car by her man as proof of her value to him, a feminized/narcissistic man buys the car because he thinks the kind of guy he wants to be seen as would drive that kind of car, and then paradoxically feels even further away from feeling like that guy... a sane man does things to do them, not for some other reason, but it's not something you can just flip your mind into if you weren't raised that way.
I want to look good, and I want to be seen looking good, but it's not about being the man who looks good its very self focused. I don't know if I overlap with what you are describing, you seem to be indicating a man obessed with fitting a mental mold as opposed to myself who is merely vain.
If you're 21 or under don't sweat it, you grow out of this pretty quickly.
You’re right. This is more difficult to decipher and pretentiously written. But she does seem to have made the companion piece, a reflection, a key to his lock. But you seem offended that she should even try to alliterate an answer. You gay or something?
So basically they are eternal teenagers
yeah that's why an eternal 14 year old is dangerous to give the right to vote...
now combine that with all the crap media is filling their heads with
pic related is the right way: the Japanese way that managed to make use of the western culture their own way ~ with damage that is far less annoying than tons of street shitters (like in Eastern Europe, but also spreading in Western Europe), the literal scum of the Arab & Turkish world (Western Europe), or hyper-agressive non-white criminals (like in the USA)
I know that somewhere in The Second Sex Simone de Beauvoir writes something similar about how women objectify themselves when they watch themselves getting dressed and undressed in front of the mirror, how they look at their own bodies with the so called male gaze. And even how when they are being fricked dissociate from the situation and imagine themselves as being the man fricking a woman.
>The Second Sex Simone de Beauvoir writes something similar about how women objectify themselves when they watch themselves getting dressed and undressed in front of the mirror, how they look at their own bodies with the so called male gaze.
This makes perfect sense
>And even how when they are being fricked dissociate from the situation and imagine themselves as being the man fricking a woman.
This has to be de Beauvoir weird's fetish.
I remember her also saying somewhere, near the beginning I think, that women raised by single men are often psychologically healthier because the man has a normal mind and can't pass on all these sorts of neuroses to them. He just teaches them to be a little man, same as he would a son, because he thinks a kid is a kid.
But if a Muslim woman covers everything including her face then it’s considered triggering
not if she is in muslimland
Women seem trapped in a permanent narcissism but also a weird self-pity and the two seem related, part of why they're so infinitely interesting (to themselves) is that they are infinitely pitiable
In reality of course it's just a moronic child with too many opinions about candle smells
>Women seem trapped in a permanent narcissism but also a weird self-pity
holy frick, the absolute lack of self awareness in your post
That’s because women are hardwired to seek out status and attention.
Men measure worth of a partner by what is considered physically healthy and fail to see the garbage underneath. It’s simple, honest and direct. Women can’t deal with the simplicity of it and claim men are underevolved as a result.
Women measure the worth of a partner by their psychological/physical power and how men can translate it into the acquisition of material goods and status for the woman. Women can’t consider the very real possibility that this power might manifest as abuse towards themselves because every woman plays with fire in every single fricking social interaction and attempts manipulation games as a means to see how far they can push their partner to achieve more. Women respect men who aren’t easily manipulated, but can still be manipulated, but only by them. Men, of course, see women as total psychos because their selection process is overly complex, manipulative (duh) and far more likely to fail with spectacularly bad results than it is to succeed.
Men being problem solvers see women complain about the abuse they indirectly inflict upon themselves (and never take responsibility for, because men would never pity women if they ever figure out just how much abuse is actually self-inflicted) and reinvent themselves as “nice guys”, because it’s the obvious solution. Women reject this solution outright because men who roll over on command don’t satisfy any of their needs.
Housewives want the kind Dr Jekyll in the home and the monstrous Mr Hyde in the workforce.
Career women want the meek Dr Jekyll in the workforce, so they can use them as ladder rungs, and the animalistic Mr Hyde beneath the sheets.
Men, after seeing this manipulative bullshit duality of woman, want to be Hulk in the wilderness - away from everyone.
Women will never respect other women, because they hate being manipulated, too. Which is why they don’t want leaders when they form a social group. They know someone is going to abuse the power. Their entire collective structure is based on status over achievement.
hey bro have you ever had an gf?
Hey prostitute, how’s it feel to know you’re being passed over for farmers in third-world countries?
What's that lace thing around her head called? It's so cute.
Tbh being a farmer is an extremely dignified position. The fact they are third world is less of a statement about them, and more about the unfortunate circumstances of their birth. I respect them more than any first world office dwelling urbanite.
It was only a matter of time before a bitter IQfy incel showed up to this thread.
> incel incel blah blah blah
And this is why the wise author never writes women as they actually are and only as how they present themselves. Women can not stand to see the reflection of their own manipulative/manipulated inner selves and piss on anyone and anything who threatens to pull back the curtain.
It’s why women, despite being more social than men, can’t actually accomplish anything with other women; why they’re far more likely to fall victim to body dysmorphia, and much more likely to undergo plastic surgery. It’s why abuse/rape victims blame themselves. It’s why women fawn over fiction that features attractive abusive men and heroic female manipulators. It’s also why feminists do everything in their power to claim happy housewives are actually oppressed. It’s all the self-inflicted, self loathing.
I genuinely feel bad for women because you really only get 20 years of fun before you are basically obsolete.
The whole “Karen” stereotype of middle-aged women like entitled b***hes is basically just post-wall women seething at the fact that they’ve lost the privileged social position that they had back when they were still young and pretty
This is some Mexico sucks and its people deserve to die level observation regarding Flowers for Algernon.
???
This has been my experience trying to date in my late-twenties. The girls my age are hitting the wall and are terrified, and the ones who already have are so desperate for attention it verges on being unsightly. The slightly older 30-somethings (I've only entertained a few) will send you paragraph upon paragraph right out the gate, prattling on about communication, knowing what you want, etc., but will positively reek of desperation for it. I haven't the heart to tell them what they already know about themselves. They made their own choices.
This is just high anxiety thinking. Constant underlining fear of being a social outcast or of being treated badly that needs no traumatic event to be caused. Just, unchecked anxiety run amuck applied to being female. She's attaching taking care of herself physically, being worried about social status, and general societal norms ingrained simce childhood to the men in her life instead of the society she lives in. She is stuck in her own head amd blames others for it.
Yep there are tonnes of dudes who live like this and tonnes of women who are completely unselfconscious, carefree idiots. It's a narcissistic take.
man they're minds would just completely implode if they realized how little male attention is actually being payed to them
>narcissists are self-obsessed and project their self-obsession onto others by assuming that everyone else must be obsessed with them too
It underlines the core of a lot of ideologies, both left and right wing people are prone to thinking that the “elites” are actively oppressing them out of malice when really they don’t give a shit about them and are only acting to serve their own interests
BOYS JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
>it's a male fantasy
>even the things that aren't male fantasies
>are also male fantasies
how can I refute this
Start with the Greeks... have you not been fricking listening?
she can speak for herself, idgaf about a man
That is NOT based.
Also, she’s confessing to having a little man inside. That’s how she can write, I’m guessing.
Should I be concerned that my gf has a man inside of her?
My favorite part about women. They're their own worst punishment.
If women don’t like a male dominated world, they can go frick off to that one city in the entire world, in the entire history of mankind that was built and maintained by women.
Women will never build one either, because, after all, what’s a parasite without a host?
Bro just say you’re afraid of women
This is some of the most incel shit I have ever read from a woman.
>it's another thinly veiled IQfy x /misc/cel thread
Can you homosexuals frick off to your containment boards and stay there
If /misc/cels are so detestable, why can’t you ever win an argument against them?
We would most likely win the argument if it was an argument about literature. Perhaps we would lose in an argument about politics but this isn't a board about politics - not every board is /misc/.
Because literature never delves into philosophy, the humanities or politics.
You moronic homosexual
No, but because the level of political discourse you want to employ is simply detestable. You don't want to hear a different position because months and months of careful political posturing has rendered your ability to hear arguments in a socratic fashion, let alone dialectic, is onerous for you.
You're not here to come to a conclusion about politics, you just want to impose your own conclusions onto everyone else.
TLDR; Frick off right leave and suck-start a shotgun, chop chop. That way, the pathetic excuse of a prefrontal cortex can finally feel relief from being your personal crusty intellectual onahole.
There isn't even a discussion about politics in this thread. What are you babbling about?
You sound hysterical
>you just want to impose your own conclusions onto everyone else
And you don't want to?
They are incapable of self-awareness. Socratic questioning is a dime a dozen on /misc/. Or it was when I used to post there.
>Or it was when I used to post there
It's trash now filled with shills and bots
It is impossible to win an argument against a moron. It's like forcing an animal to drink
If everyone that btfos you is a /misc/cel then maybe the problem is (You).
The difference between a fantasy and reality is that a fantasy exists only in the mind and doesn't exert influence on the world. So by this logic it would seem that everything is run by male realities. What becomes real is ultimately whatever possibility has the power to dominate and overcome other possibilities.
>the most misogynistic board on IQfy (/r9k/) in 2012
>still 20-30% dedicated misogynyposters vs. 70-80% normie "lol ur virgin" downvoter tourists
>IQfy in 2020
>90% misogynyposters vs. 10% normie "frick u incel i fricking hate incels this place fricking sucks now i'm leaving for reddit/twitter fricking incels" whineposters
>society in general in 2024
>90% misogynyposters and self-hating post-feminist post-wall women who also themselves acknowledge they fricked up big time vs. 10% aging millennial urbanites still trying to thoughtpolice misogyny as "not cool bro, not cool"
Misogynybros... we won
Wow, she was sick. Poor thing. The Buddha was right about how we can create our own suffering.
>you are a woman with a man inside
Hehehehehehehheh
females neither have the compass-like guidance of the Supreme Organ, nor the freedom afforded by the Empire of Nutsack where the balls are free to travel and mingle and play around
they live in a Squishy World like pic related, where neither air nor light can penetrate unless at the price of Death (hence why the French call the orgasm the "little death")
not that that's a bad thing... it's life
>Wash your feet
Feet mentioned
I think she's right bros. Imagining a woman washing her feet has given me an erection by Allah
How is any of that a "male fantasy"?
>imagine your food being prepared by some hag
>Malebros, are we actually kind of based?
Theweleit _Mannerphantasien_
troony marcusean/reichian crap
Men are born to be number one in a family, and women are born to be their number 2.
The pozzed anti-human propaganda being spread by the elite wants to paint being number 2 as bad, but that role is very important to a family.
When women try to be the number 1 member stress ensues, leading to mental illness. They're going against nature
having a girl is a luxury
since the French Revolution (and especially since the 1950s), only a few categories could afford luxuries:
1. career criminals or at least people who can't abstain from lying, killing, and dispossessing working men
2. self-indulgent homosexuals, who are the "diet pepsi" version of the career criminals (why would a homosexual, a male person whose core identity is based on and revolves around being fricked in the ass and sucking dicks, marry and have children? ever thought of that?)
3. communists, who catalyze the above two categories... initially for fun and profit... but today because they would literally die of hunger otherwise
and the "girls" shat out by the above three categories, invariably brain washed from the moment they left the vegana, are the ones who will reproduce and brain wash their children regardless of their husband's wishes (husband who btw if probably blackmailed and extorted from the first moment he laid eyes on her)
because what I just described is what it means to live in a non-Abrahamic world
I used to agree with her quote, and while I still do, I think she is too blackpilled for my tastes, as there are many ways women do not have to be scrutinized in such a monolith. If I ever got divorced I would want to spend the rest of my life in education for children or go to a nunnery.
>"MEN could be here", she thought