>Mfw as I get educated after reaiding European novels bebefore 1940 and realize homossexuality was pretty normal around the world, especially France but it became a taboo after ameriprudes became the biggest power in the world
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So Americans fought to make it a taboo and now they are fighting to make it acceptable again?
conservatives aren't american
yea you have to be a gay Black person to be american now. i learned that on television
You didn‘t get that from all of american history?
No.
It's no longer the same thing
Murderers also existed everywhere in ye olden tymes.
>Murder is equivalent to carpet munching
found the american
We're talking about fudge packers, not carpet munchers.
>homos are not homos if they make me hard
lesbians are homos.
NTA it's irrefutable that eating pussy has less health risks than sticking your dick in shit
>fudge packers
That is so grim
Gay orgies are a bunch of men smearing each other's shit into each other's buttholes. One wiener goes into one butthole and gets fecal residue on it, then goes into another butthole and transmits the feces around. People wonder why they tend to get sick and come down with various diseases.
All that description wasn't as grim as simply fudge packers. Sometimes less is more
Fudge packer is a common insult and most people don't think much about its meaning, I think
Akctually it was the Oscar Wilde trial
if only he were less flamboyant
If you've read Casanova you'd know it was everywhere in the courts.
It's actually amusing. He spends most of the first half of his memoirs talking about how this is the one carnal vice he'll never stoop to, even mentioning that the castrati he wooed was only because he was under the belief 'he' was actually a girl, but then goes on to frick some little Russian boy court-climber without any qualms whatsoever.
Read Machiavelli's letters and you find it was rife right at the peak of the renaissance florence too
Desu, It's interesting how he notes it in his chapter about how a prince shouldn't wantonly sow his oats with other men's wives (or sons), and how a particular male-male rape occasioned a blood feud.
Before I'd read Machi I never knew this, but presumed the paederastic tradition perished in Italy with Rome, or at least the actual, not literary part of it. I suppose that's one of the principal paths which brought it into Elizabethan England, too.
>Europeans are homosexuals
Tell us something new
Not exactly true. Homosexualty was always considered a sin in nations following the abrahamic religions. But its true it was only from like the medieval period on it was really a punishable sin.
It was rife in most ancient societies and many early modern ones as well. Even still it was generally not socially accepted openly at least, especially being the receiving gay and not the penetrator. I would imagine it was a tolerated but disreputable vice, kind of like rich 55 year olds banging 19 year old sugar babies is today
>It was rife in most ancient societies
It wasnt though, it was outlawed virtually everywhere
Pederasty was generally tolerated
this. homosexuality is literally pedophilia
All homos are pedos
Not true. Heterosexual pedophilia was even more normal and tolerated even today straight child marriage is legal in america
In premodern societies plebian bodies were essentially fricktoys for the aristocracy
>Another gay cope.
It was never acceptable in any society not even in ancient Athens like ur gay memes.
it was acceptable all around the world except in america.
>acceptable
>throughout history every single government gave you capital punishment for being a sodomite
sure.
hunting in certain grounds is also against the law. smuggling is le bad. this doesnt mean anybody will tolerate you acting like a karen about it.
>non sequitur
sure, gay.
>isolated cases are the norm
>of course there aren't also several whose letters were found and their lives then ruined for it
and worst of all
>reading homosexuality into shakespeare, because modern "scholars" said so
you can't think logically if your life depended on it.
>compares sodomy with completely unrelated stuff
>i'm the one at fault of not being logical
also for one of the points you said, "in certain grounds". every single kingdom and government had it outlawed.
i think you are just braindead. I compared them because they're all illegal stuff to do in every country in existence. whats so confusing ?
child molestation is illegal too, and look at the epstein fiasco
Drugs were heavily prosecuted in the 1960’s-80’s
France is not indicative of wider cultural trends in the world. France was the most liberal and progressive nation in the 1800s and basically suicided their great power status by implementing inheritance reforms and fricking it’s birthrates and demographics. This trend was only reversed in the interwar period where they banned abortions and contraception.
If you look at a lot of famous French politicians, artists, scientists ect before WWI a lot of them didn’t have children, it is bizarre. Also, the reason why homosexuality was looked down upon is because by accepting homosexuality you are accepting that the function of sex isn’t reproduction, which creates sexually promiscuous and hedonistic societies.
>read a bunch of slop and gets a sloppy worldview
You keep your sloppy seconds to yourself mister. Only the finest dining for me
I mean, imagine the situation
Americucks fear the twink
that's a woman
>For me?
it's the CoMC lesbians
>oh anon, and who did you read to get that worldview
>"pomo frenchmen and sade"
It wasn’t after the Napoleonic Era during the religious backlash of the Victorian Era, really. It was considered normal during Shakespearean times, I think King James had an affair with the Duke of Buckingham and said something like Jesus had his John, and everyone laughed. The Puritan backlash of the English civil war changed this. And the Christian Continental backlash after Napoleon
>t. has no history knowledge at all
>not to mention the baseless anecdote, preceded by "i think", which is ironic because you apparently don't.
Nothing baseless about it, their lover letters still exist and they talk about penis size. Also Shakespeare wrote homosexual sonnets for the public
homosexual "Christians" with rainbow flags in their Twitter bios will never change the teachings of the Church, and they might as well just apostasize and get it over with.
Read Saint Peter Damian.
all the upper society is bisexual
the upper society are basically all amoral sociopaths. what a surprise that their sexuality is disordered
>I can't differentiate between upper class/court and lower/middle class blokes working a business with normal families
straightoid plebs vs patrician gays
I'm glad we left a positive effect on the world.