Mini PC

At my day job, embedded and a bit of classic EE work, we had our PCs replaced with a mini pc. I don't know which one (I don't really care tbh) but they have 64gb and a Ryzen 9 with a 1TB NVME and they are fricking fast. This got me curious.

My hobbies are messing with embedded Linux, learning UE5, and light gaming. Can any anons give input if a Minisforum UM790 Pro could do the following, or share personal experience?

cross compiling to arm
compiling large C++ e.g. Chrome browser
UE5 editor, I'm still learning so I just want to know if it's viable for larger projects
Run games like BAR, Knights of Honor 2, Torchlight 2, Arma 3, Helldivers 2

I'm open to any alternatives, I just don't need a huge tower taking up a lot of space in my room. I will probably retire it to a server for misc. tasks. Cloud computing can go frick itself.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    point of these minipcs is mostly just to get older gen cpus to the public, I like them because you can have some low power devices that lets you still run basic services like syncthing, backups and similar, for beef and fast work I have beefy machine
    the i9-13900T has the same TDP of 35W as the 7940HS, but intel still about 25% more performant, plus you get twice the thread count, and you can get the whole thing in box that small

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i9-13900T
      where do you even buy these

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the i9-13900T has the same TDP of 35W as the 7940HS
      >but intel still about 25% more performant
      probably because TDP is meaningless and Intel consumes double anyway

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        point of these minipcs is mostly just to get older gen cpus to the public, I like them because you can have some low power devices that lets you still run basic services like syncthing, backups and similar, for beef and fast work I have beefy machine
        the i9-13900T has the same TDP of 35W as the 7940HS, but intel still about 25% more performant, plus you get twice the thread count, and you can get the whole thing in box that small

        13900T 35W rating is at 1.1GHz P core / 800MHz E core.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yikes

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    personally I wouldn't use one as anything other than a /hsg/ box or a HTPC (which I do, by the way), but they are pretty good considering what you pay for them
    just make sure you completely nuke the drive before use, considering that bootloader spyware thing that happened a little while ago
    dunno if I'd ever consider using it for vidya beyond PS2 emulation though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bootloader spyware thing that happened a little while ago
      What bootloader spyware thing that happened a little while ago?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just make sure you completely nuke the drive before use, considering that bootloader spyware thing that happened a little while ago
      as someone who has a minisforum UM760 pro I bought bare i still had concerns over WPBT (windows platform binary table where windows will grab an EXE from the UEFI table and just run it)

      it's an awful feature and microsoft are shitbags for including it. luckily it seems absent from the UM760

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bootloader spyware

      >bootloader spyware thing that happened a little while ago
      What bootloader spyware thing that happened a little while ago?

      I think he's referring to Baton Drop / Black Lotus, a UEFI bootkit. Clever, nasty stuff.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a beelink mini s 12 pro or some shit. It's pretty good n100 CPU is all that I need.
    I have it as a basic server running OMV and Plex and qbittorent running using docker. Got it so I could keep seeding after moving to my gfs place where there is no room for my rig as every square inch of space is covered in plants.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      plants are cool don’t be a dick about it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All information I find on these are server related applications, I guess they are not for my daily use. In my case, I live in a small apartments and space is precious. I already used up all the available space in the laundry closet for my server and nas. Hoping to find a rich qt who can provide me more space lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This can be run as a daily driver but there are other ryzen based ones that would be better for gaymen.
        I also have a steam deck as I travel a lot and it would be pretty good if you want something more capable. The gaymen value really comes from the support from valve and the controls, legit the best controller I have used.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >arma 3
    >fotmdivers 2
    you still need a discrete GPU to run pretty much every game listed there with bearable performance
    except torchlight, but only because it's old as shit and was made by devs that were forced to accommodate the hardware of the time
    as long as you get an AMD box it'll make a decent desktop, but don't expect miracles

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well I really do need to run these games at max settings. I did research on Youtube and I already knew it runs like crap even at low settings. And I game for a long periods of times so I would probably murder the mini pc, I was just hoping maybe some anons had different experiences. But yeah, I will most likely just keep my rig till the end of time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Towers are only an esthetic issue so don't pretend otherwise. When they were the only PCs available no one even noticed. Get creative about placement and they can be out of your way.

        I hang a 1U server on my wall and could put a framed poster or painting over it if I cared (I don't) using two L-hooks costing pennies each. Two small generic brackets you can make or buy for next to nothing at a hardware store or online can be screwed or bolted to your PC case so it's off your floor or table.

        Computers give no fricks if they're on the ceiling and you already have a large display yours could live behind. If want you can use display arms instead of stands which really do free up desk space. I discard my stands.

        Smol PCs are handy though so I'd still get one unless you already have multiple PCs. If you score more you can build a home cluster.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I hang a 1U server on my wall
          Do those tiny fans ever get annoying buzzing away?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not to me but I don't run high RPM spinner drives (often loud as fans) and if want you can interpose a cheap inline fan control between mobo and fan.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if want you can interpose a
            Something buying MiniPCs won't even look into. I'm still not seeing the benefit of a 1U server PC other than being able to mount it discreetly on a wall or under a desk or something Which a MiniPC will be able to be placed infinitely better than any 1U server blade.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    your best bet is a gaming laptop
    minipcs don't have a discrete gpu and igpus are simply not powerful enough for gaming
    another alternative is miniITX builds, but these imo are not worth the effort and money while a gaming laptop offers you most of the stuff (less space, performant, good power efficiency, portable)

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love mini pcs
    I wish Intel didnt discontinue their nuc line
    ASUS took it over but immediately butchered it
    Frick!
    They dont even have ones that can support the 4090

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i love airplane fans brŕrrrrrvrrrrrrrrrr

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Theyre not
        Look at the Intel NUC 13 Extreme
        Custom board for the 13900K and custom cooling unit to run it at stock and stock overclock speeds
        Man they were so great
        Just what anyone needed for gaming/productivity
        I wanted one so badly but couldn’t afford it at that time and now theyre gone

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Theyre not, look at the [ $1,179 model]
          sure
          a $6k mac pro is not bad either if we're talking extreme hypotheticals instead of N100 and i3 shitboxes everyone buys

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the Asus ones look fine to me, what is your issue

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good goy

      t.pol was here

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tesla p4 might be a discrete gpu option to consider. cheap, half height, single slot and crazy efficient, especially considering its age

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Got one of these in an sff optiplex together with an i7 4770, for 135€ total honestly not bad at all.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UM780 chad here.

    These little laptop chips are great, but the gpu is comparable to a gtx1650. Sure, you could probably run arma, but it would look a lot nicer if you used the oculink adapter and an egpu.

    It looks like this newest intel generation will take the lead with the best integrated GPUs.

    If I could do it over again, I would buy the ryzen 7840hs on a little itx mobo. It would be nicer to have the full size pcie x16 slot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >These little laptop chips are great, but the gpu is comparable to a gtx1650
      no it's not moron

      post game benchmarks to support your amdjeet claim instead of benchmarks where you cheat @ 300%tdp for 10 seconds or get the frick out

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The easiest way of looking at mini pcs is they're just laptop hardware in a stacked motherboard configuration. Laptop motherboards are tiny even compared to miniATX, then they fold them in half for a miniPC.

    I have one acting as a HTPC in my living room and bedroom and used it to place some rather lightweight games like emulators, stardew, C&C remastered at 4k, and some other older games, stream 4k, and do general normie stuff. Other than initial power on, I simply cannot hear the fan and I hear fricking everything in my house. They make so much more sense than buying a new laptop because I'm not buying a screen and battery, but I'm still getting the benefit of the best possible hardware doing the actual work for the price.
    If I had to guess, $300 miniPC will perform on the same level as a $900 laptop because of the lack of a screen, battery, keyboard, and everything specific to laptops. If you're wanting something tiny, low powered, and silent while still having reasonable power determine your budget, find a decent APU to play older games, and still able to push 4k reasonably well (for monitors or TVs) and you'll fall in love with it. Minisforum, Beelink, and I think 1 or 2 other super-chinesey names are out there. I got a beelink.

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