>miracles stopped occurring in the age of the camera and mass surveillance
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>miracles stopped occurring in the age of the camera and mass surveillance
>miracles stopped occurring in the age of the camera and mass surveillance
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Miracles happens daily, but not for those who never believed in them in the first place.
You made miracles stop happening in your own life, because of "muh doubts".
>miracles don't happen to you because you don't believe in them
Oops, I spilled my unfalsifiable claims into this thread
>miracles stopped occurring in the age of the camera and mass surveillance
This is also an unfalsifiable and unsubstantiated claim.
Where’s the footage then?
>disprove my claim for me
that's not how this works
Yes, that's how falsification works.
>can be proven false with recorded footage of a miracle.
Yikes! better drop the semitic fairytales and hit some real books, buddy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Zeitoun
>B-B-BUT THAT'S EDITED
>PHOTOSHOP
believe or do not. you will go where you go.
LOL.
That's as believable as the Mothman sightings, yet i know you wouldn't believe that one.
From your exact page:
>Some authors suggest that the sightings must be considered in context. The appearances happened during a period of crisis in Egyptian history and echoed "a widespread feeling that the defeat of Egypt in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war was the result of having abandoned faith in favor of human-made ideas and belief systems".[8] Sociologists Robert Bartholomew and Erich Goode offer the Zeitoun apparitions as a prominent case of mass hysteria: "It appears that the Marian observers were predisposed by religious background and social expectation to interpreting the light displays as related to the Virgin Mary."
So it's either a case of mass hysteria or paredolia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marian_apparitions
They must have all been crazy, huh, anon?
Do you also believe this:
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology#Organizations
Some, sure. Are you from reddit, by any chance?
>c-call him a redditor
You're sweating. Maybe you should ask Jesus to conjure up a real argument.
No, i dont even use reddit.
>No more appearences after 1980.
Are ghosts afraid of cameras?
>2009
Are you afraid of literacy?
2009 is still before the 1980's.
>Miracles happens daily
What's your definition of a miracle?
>miracles happen only when you make-believe they happen
Just what you'd expect if... you know... they never happen at all.
NO NO NO AKHI LOOK HERE THERE'S A JINN CAUGHT ON CAMERA:
sending this to the whatsapp family group chat immediately
I have a feeling the advent of AI video will coincide with a huge uptick in miracles.
When Jesus died magic died. That's why people believed he really was God. "God died in the flesh", has two meanings and both are true.
The Bible says that there were miracles even after Jesus's death, like Paul resurrecting Eutychus from the dead.
I'm sure from a certain point of view what the Bible said it true. There is almost always more than one way to read everything in the book, and often it is true when read multiple ways for different reasons.
stopped occurring in the age of the camera and mass surveillance
How do you know that for certain?
If you really want to know about miracles, read this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/A_Course_in_Miracles_Text.pdf
Don't bother giving me a reply. I'm not staying.
no they didn't
Anon do you really think prayer steered a hurricane or are you aware that hurricanes often take that route?
>miracles stopped occurring
Explain this, OP
They didn't stop occuring, "skeptics" just started calling every supernatural occurrence caught on film a fake.
Because
is authentic. Of course.
Lady explaining her insta heal from egregious decades long disease, corroborated by 300 doctors and you can take your own doctors to the bureau and corroborate it yourself.
medically unexplained /= miraculous
its called the placebo effect. when you think you are fixed and never really had a problem anyways then you are "cured".
Wow that’s a cool YouTube link anon, next time when of your loved ones has a serious illness or medical emergency, be sure to prevent them from going to doctors or a hospital. Just pray it away.
I see miracles pretty much daily. I didn't live before cameras so I can't say if they were more common back then, but must've been quite the time if true.
>I see miracles pretty much daily
No you don't
take a picture
how, they're still going on
Also
>god has yet to regrow a single amputee's limb
Very strange; not even jesus managed that
>IQfy christians are as gullible as my late great-aunt who was born in bumfrick nowhere in the 1920s and never received any education past high school
kek
Meanwhile you believe a man can transubstantiate into a woman by putting on a dress.
Obsessed with trannies, i see?
Makes sense, your god was a proto-troony moron.
More inane gibberish from the projecting simpleton.
You are the one projecting, you gay disgusting lover.
Nope, I'm not a thomist. I don't believe there can be someone whose accidents are male but essence is female just like I don't believe there can be someone whose accidents are baked flour but essence is Jesus of Nazareth or someone whose accidents are pickle and essence is Rick Sanchez.
Or, cameras and mass surveillance arose after miracles stopped.
But why?
Why did they stop, when we could record them?
The fact that we haven't annihilated each other yet is a miracle in itself
Our Lady of Zeitoun was photographed. Will you convert now?
I think plenty still happen and get caught on camera. The problem is now we don't know what's real anymore and its getting even worse with AI.
>plenty still happen and get caught on camera
You forgot the "I think" part at the beginning. Just look at EVP videos, UFO stuff, Ghost videos, ect ect. Even if that shit was real, we wouldn't even be able to tell because of all the technological fakery. So actual miracles get mixed in with the bullshit and passed off as bullshit.
>EVP videos
There are exactly two kinds of those. The first kind is when you use complete shit equipment, push the volume to the max and interpret random recording artefacts however you want to interpret them. The second kind is blatant forgeries.
Show me one EVP video where:
1. The recording equipment isn't 1950s crap;
2. The tape is clearly shown to be actually blank before hand;
3. No cut;
4. Anyone would interpret the spooky noise as a human voice without subtitles to tell you what you must hear.
>UFO stuff
What stuff? The early testimonies of kids who saw a helicopter for the first time in the 60s? Videos of out-of-focus plane lights? Videos of paper lanterns? Photographs of reflection of a lamp on a window? The triangle thing in Belgium that the photographer admitted was a hoax to test how gullible people were (pic related)? The photo that skeptics could reproduce perfectly with a lampshade with three ping-pong balls glued to it? The "Roswell incident" where the one and only picture of the debris shows tape with decorative patterns that could be found in a shop one block away from a hangar that manufactures weather balloons? People who drive in cars and get spooked by a "big luminous object in the sky that's following us and is always at the same angle" and describe that angle to be exactly where the moon was at that moment? The "supersonic thing caught by the military on a thermal camera" that turns out to have the exact size, speed, temperature and flapping movements as a duck?
>Ghost videos
All either really bad hoaxes or out-of-focus dust particles.
/x/ /misc/turd schizo realm is separate from the materialist communist atheist troony reddit realm
>religious lore is separate from objective reality
We already knew that.
I just think it's weird that healing miracles doesn't happen to amputees
You seriously think that if miracles happened, at least occasionally, today. In the age of modern recording devices and sciences
That there would be doubt about it?
So fricking moronic.
I think it would be super obvious if miracles were real. Especially if they look like lady-shaped lightshows and healings. That stuff is easy to record. (but really, a miracle can be anything)
For some reason-- Christians disagree. And think miracles can't be "too" obvious. Hear a lot of cope about this, like how it would force you into belief, so it wouldn't be real faith
Were did that idea come from, hmm? Sounds like someone made-up a preemptive excuse