>modular
>upgradable
>doesn't have Linux support
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>doesn't have Linux support
No one in their right mind would prioritize Linux over Windows on a niche project like this. If they make a survey, I'd bet that not even 1% of their users care about Linux support.
https://frame.work/linux
You're full of shit.
>No one in their right mind would prioritize Linux over Windows on a niche project like this
You're moronic, people seeking out niche "ethical" laptop brands are more likely to use Linux.
They do support Linux though.
I'm posting from an AMD Framework 13 right now.
>I'm posting from an AMD Framework 13 right now.
Cool what happens when you hibernate the laptop and then try to open it back up?
I dunno if that's hibernation but I just close the lid and then open it again when I don't use it and that works fine.
if it turns back on in under a second, then its sleep mode, not hibernation
If that's just sleep then it still drains little enough power for me not to care.
sleep is better for a laptop, because it has a battery anyway. hibernate is better on desktop, in case there is a momentary drop in the power, then you dont lose shit
>2024
>using hibernation mode
see
It takes maybe 4 seconds and comes up. Not super fast, but I don't really run into much trouble with it. I have it set to sleep for a bit first, then hibernate.
To be fair windows struggles with hibernation too on my machine(HP)
But then again it is HP and HP sucks.
What is the point of hibernation exactly? It's a 2024 laptop with an SSD, it comes on basically instantly from off anyway.
Nice midday larp.
almost all x86 laptops support linux well enough
but all of them have shitty battery life (or sub optimal performance with TLP), framework included
I have never seen a socially well-adjusted person using framework laptops.
i run arch on my launch 13 just fine?
>I need some all new powerful device to run my shitty Linus tek-tips distribution on.
No Linux user would spend anywhere near Framewerks prices for a laptop to run Mint on. Anyone can buy a desktop for 60$ or a laptop for 80$ that will be way more than is needed for Linux.
You're just as bad as IQfygays wanting a 2024 1998 Honda civic; if Honda were able to manufacture that they'd sell it for 35k or more and no shitbox weeb would buy it when they can just buy an actual 1998 and get more than what they need for less than 2k dollars
>No Linux user would spend anywhere near Framewerks prices for a laptop to run Mint on.
Check the loonix laptop market, companies like System76, Purism, etc.. all sell overpriced shitboxes starting from $1.4k
>Anyone can buy a desktop for 60$ or a laptop for 80$ that will be way more than is needed for Linux.
Not to mention those old laptops are more modular than Framework anyway. I got a Thinkpad for $80 off eBay and have used that for like a decade, just replacing the ultrabay optical drive with another SSD. You can even swap that out for other stuff like an extra battery, pretty slick modular system that's 30 years old. But no, it's just an imperative that people buy as much new shit as possible.
>less than 2k dollars
Ahahaha
The 2k civic meme is long dead
't have Linux support
"We designed the Framework Laptop from the outset to be a great Linux laptop" (https://frame.work/linux). So what the frick are you on about?
a lot of people in nixos spaces seem to be using one
But it has Linux support out of the box , it just doesnt come with it I preinstalled
i can't imagine anyone buying a laptop with a linux distro preinstalled and not immediately wiping it to do the install themselves anyways.
Yes, which, IIRC was the stated official reason for not bothering with it in the first place.
Exactly. I run OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma and full disk encryption. I also added btrfs compression in the installer and removed the Swap partition to use ZRAM instead. A normal Linux laptop would just be Ubuntu LTS with GNOME and ext4 + swap file, with no encryption. I'd have to wipe it anyway to get it just how I want it.
>i can't imagine anyone buying a laptop with a linux distro preinstalled and not immediately wiping it to do the install themselves
The vast majority of buyers of Linux laptops do in fact simply run what was pre-installed on them, just like other buyers of laptops.
Keep in mind the vast majority of Linux laptops run Google's ChromeOS and are sold to mainstream buyers, or the education market.
If you're going to be all "actually chromeos is Linux" you really ought to only count Linux laptop buyers who actually know that what they're buying even is Linux, because their behaviors won't be the same as the typical Chromebook user.
Right decision from Framework. It is better not to spend money on 0.001% possible Framework buyers who 'may' install Linux on it.
Linux users make their own support
The problem isn't not having Linux pre installed, morons.
It's not being able to update drivers/the bios unless you have Windows installed
fwupd exists
I'll be interested (maybe) once it's finished in 5 years (if they last that long).
For now i'm keeping my legion 7.