Nap's biggest mistake wasn't Russia, but Spain

Spain was already his ally, so there was no reason to invade them.
Collectively the whole operation took more resources than Russian invasion.
He lost 200,000 men which he would have needed to recover after Leipzig.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spain was a big frickup but he lost half a million men in Russia

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, and within three months.
      As a comparison the 200,000 lost in Spain were spread over 8 years

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >e 200,000 lost
        Not "lost". They died because Spanish civilians (with frying pans and guerrilla tactics) destroyed them and because Spanish civilians did not want to be under the foot of a foreign power.

        So, those 200.000 means nothing. The relevant thing here are the 500.000 Spaniards that were killed by those bastard napoleonic troops just because they Spaniards wanted to defend their cities against the barbarie that Napoleon brought there.

        Imagine if the US marines went around the 20 main french cities and ....started to open fire to the civilians and if they did not want to submit to them they would be executed.

        Napoleon was one of the worst bastards that ever existed on European History. I don´t get why some people praise him.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Imagine if the US marines went around the 20 main french cities and ....started to open fire to the civilians and if they did not want to submit to them they would be executed.

          Bruh, America did worse than that.
          They literally firebombed (and later nuked) Japanese cities from above without giving the civilians below any chance to submit or anything.
          On 10 march 1945 they wiped out 100,000 civilians in one night

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >without giving the civilians below any chance to submit or anything.

            Literally dropped flyers letting them know it was coming

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they made a mistake that Spanish can read

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            jfc take your meds dude

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The United States should have just surrendered to the Japanese Empire. It's heckin bad to kill people in war, you know.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This but unironically. Japan was much more morale than the US was. I wish we lived in a world dominated by Japan instead of the US. At least they cucked the US culturally speaking.
            I don't care about Shitler though.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >500.000 Spaniards that were killed by those bastard napoleonic troops just because they Spaniards wanted to defend their cities
          Wow, you mean soldiers sent to conquer a country fought and killed rebels who took up arms to stop them? Crazy!

          >Imagine if the US marines went around the 20 main french cities and ....started to open fire to the civilians and if they did not want to submit to them they would be executed.
          You're asking me to imagine that American soldiers sent to conquer a country would kill civilians if they arm themselves and try to stop them?
          Nah I can't even imagine that, surely US troops would just cancel the invasion and go home if some insurgents tried to stop them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Wow, you mean soldiers sent to conquer a country fought and killed rebels who took up arms to stop them? Crazy!
            Yes. For example when the Spaniards attacked the Netherlands they never harmed the civilian. Only subhumans would do that. The truth is that French resented Spain for what Caesar did to the gauls almost 2 millenia earlier.

            they made a mistake that Spanish can read

            >xir so obsessed that he didn't get that they were talking about Japanese

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >For example when the Spaniards attacked the Netherlands they never harmed the civilian.

            Hahahahahaha what is rape of Antwerp?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever seen dutch women? You just have to mention that you're Spanish or Italian to them and they will be naked the second after. There was no rape, only consensual relationship.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >After the siege, the Dutch fleet on the river Scheldt was kept in position, blocking the city's access to the sea and cutting it off from international trade. Parma stationed experiencedCastiliantroops within Antwerp to make sure the city would not fall into enemy hands. The moderateness of Parma's demands and the behaviour of his troops were a complete surprise given the bloodiness of the siege and the rampage of 1576. Parma issued strict orders not to sack the city. The Spanish troops behaved impeccably, and Antwerp's Protestant population was given four years to settle their affairs before leaving.
            1576 was a mutiny btw, expressly against the spanish officers' orders. that was not even close to the usual treatment of civilians during the 80 years war.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When Napoleon's troops invaded the Netherlands and Germany, they also didn't harm civilians, as said civilians didn't resist.
            Spaniards brought it upon themselves by starting a guerrilla warfare.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they also didn't harm civilians
            They did. Just not one the same scale because they didn't dare to fight back

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also why wouldn't civilians resist an alien occupation by a foreign race? By your logics they should have accepted muslim rule too.
            I'll keep what you say in mind next time (so at most, tomorrow) I read about a frenchman who was stabbed to death because he fought back against a muslim bully

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Point is if you decide to fight back, you can't whine and claim to be some innocent civilians when you get treated as en enemy fighter.

            None of this shit is specific to Napoleon's war in Spain, it's what happens every time civilians engage in armed insurgency.
            Occupying troops arent going to let themselves get killed just because their opponents wear no uniforms.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also why wouldn't civilians resist an alien occupation by a foreign race?
            >A foreign race which is the same race as their king

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah bros the Bourbons who are a mix of all europe high nobility are totally the same genetically to the random Black person peasant in Auvergne or Limousin
            Also Napoleon wasn't even French

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A random peasant from Auvergne or Limousin is probably closer genetically to the average Spaniard than the average gigamutt aristocrat.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No. The Pyrenees is the biggest genetic barrier in the world. A French has more in common genetically and culturally with a Chinese than with a Spaniard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (You)
            Now frick off back to IQfy moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >, you mean soldiers sent to conquer a country
            They were not sent to conquer a country. Napoleon fooled Spanish king to "let them go to Portugal to conquer them" and once in Spain they started to try to submit the natives.

            So according to you if someone goes to your house with arms and want to submit you and rape your sister/wife you should stay with your hands in your pockets right?
            "Rebels" says the moron. They were the natives fighting for themselves in their own houses, villages and country.

            >For example when the Spaniards attacked the Netherlands they never harmed the civilian.

            Hahahahahaha what is rape of Antwerp?

            If you read the chronicles you will see that most of the harm done in dutch cities were done by german and italian mercenaries that fought for the Tercios and even the Spanish soldiers protected the churches where the dutch went to hide.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"Rebels" says the moron. They were the natives fighting for themselves in their own houses, villages and country.

            That's what rebels usually are.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No rebels are people who defy the established authority. Joseph Bonaparte never was the established over Spain.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Be a backstabbing "ally"
          >Ally decides to punish you
          >REEEEEEEEE!!!!!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Napoleontards can't complain about Spanish resistance.

            Point is if you decide to fight back, you can't whine and claim to be some innocent civilians when you get treated as en enemy fighter.

            None of this shit is specific to Napoleon's war in Spain, it's what happens every time civilians engage in armed insurgency.
            Occupying troops arent going to let themselves get killed just because their opponents wear no uniforms.

            >Occupying troops arent going to let themselves get killed just because their opponents wear no uniforms.
            The Guerilla was in retaliation of violence against civilians moron. Why do you think there was no guerrila warfare in 1820?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest mistake of the masonic midget was not killing himself on time before destroying Europe for nothing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're still not white T H O

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whiter than you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Neither was Napoleon. He was E1b and Corsicans are uber meds anyway.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are the stories about french soldiers raping captured spanish men true?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >raping

      they liked it

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that moment when Napoleon told to bring him captured Spanish nuns and raped them on the eyes of captured Spanish king and his son

    bruh

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hot take: French colonialism in Africa started in 1808 rather than in 1830
    Because Africa begins at the Pyrenees

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It could have but since they failed 1830 is the correct date.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That like saying Black Sea steppe a gateway to Asia instead anatolian peninsula

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The irony is that Corsicans are closer genetically to Africans than Spaniards. If Spaniards are moors Napoleon is darkest Black person to have ever came out of Africa.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Distance to: Tunisia
      0.16032821 French_Corsica
      0.16803602 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

      (You)
      Now frick off back to IQfy moron

      How am I wrong though? You think Paul Pogba or Kylian Mbappe would pass as native in Spain?

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