>needs 11 spacial dimensions to work
>no evidence for higher spacial dimensions so instead of finding a better theory they claim that the dimensions are just very small
String Theory has robbed us of multiple generations of our brightest autists and produced 0 testable claims, 0 observations, and to kill it even more supersymmetry predicts particles we have never found since the launch of the LHC
Find a better theory
I ain't no genius but I don't think no sane person would listen to "11 dimensions" and thinks it makes sense
it's a hilariously specific number
it's the number of sephirot in the kabbala
It all started with the kaluza-klein compactification in the 1920s. A spacetime with 5 dimensions was proposed to unify gravity with electromagnetism, classically nothing to do with QM. The string theory with 11 dimensions is also an unification of many string theories with 10 dimensions under a common roof, but needs that extra dimension.
The kaluza-klein idea called for the 5th dimension to be compact like a tube so you travel down there and come back after a loop, not extended like the normal dimensions.
>no evidence of higher dimensions
>meanwhile the behavior of subatomic particles absolutely suggests involvement of unobserved spatial dimensions
>no evidence of God
>meanwhile the retrograde motion of the wandering stars absolutely suggests involvement of continuous divine intervention
the behavior of subatomic particles absolutely suggests involvement of unobserved spatial dimensions
whu?
Muons were proven to be interacting with virtual--particles not already part of the Standard Model, nothing specifically about unobserved spatial dimensions.
Sounds a lot like Einsteinian Relativity theory
Nature has no reason to cater to your philosophical biases. Simple as.
make a single string theory experiment then, oh wait you cant.
the only reason people cling to string theory is BECAUSE of philosophical bias, it looks nice when you math with it, so it must be right!
weird hill to die on
any theory that tries to go beyond the standard model is in many ways extremely difficult to test
string theory is the simplest thing we've come up with that seems to unify a lot of fields, and is hinted at by the experiments we have.
Its kind of like joining the dots and seeing what shape they make. You cant see the shape itself, but you can infer something really seems to exist within certain boundaries.
Its not about making straightforward sense.
Even quantum mechanics doesn't make intuitive sense but its fully experimentally provable to be true. Electron single & double slit experiment is the classic example.
OP Here
as stated in my other reply
I dont think String Theory is moronic, its a very satisfying theory.
Im definitely towards the factual experiment driven side of particle physics, Double Slit over Quantum Eraser type beat.
the facts are still out on String Theory, I think we have 9 conflicting interpretations of ST these days, and its weird to see so much time and effort being dumped into the rabbit hole with pretty much nothing to show for it. String Theory looked a lot more promising in the 90's, and I admit its still possible now, I just think we need to de-pedestool it from its pop science perch a little.
>0 observations
Quantum gravity.
Quantum Gravity works better without string theory
cope
were getting to the point where this stuff is so hard to understand that it makes people angry and they'd rather say its all bullshit than admit they might not be smart enough for it.
prove string theory then
>prove string theory then
you gonna pay for a super collider that's big enough to circle the earth? Cause that's what we would need.
String theory math requires a negative cosmological constant, it literally doesn't work with a positive one.
String theory math requires 11 (sometimes 10 if you want to nix gravity from the theory) spacial dimensions for the math to check out.
String Theory also requires super-symmetry, the mathematical dogma that every particle has a dual reflection of its self.
1. We have determined systematically that the cosmological constant is positive. String theorists now have 9 different solutions, each one requiring different physics that contradict.
2. We have never detected more spacial dimensions, there has been numerous peer reviewed studies. They have used gravitational waves from Sagitarius a* to the ripples felt from the collision of neutron stars, and the measured data does not line up with gravity coherent to higher spacial dimensions. To cope with this String Theorists had to introduce imaginary numbers to the equations, pro tip, if you have to use non-real numbers in your equation of reality, maybe your equation sucks.
3. we have pretty much ruled out supersymmetry from being real, it checks out mathwise but it predicts 11 particles that have never been measured. To solve this, instead of finding a theory that works, they made "super-supersymmetry" and that somehow the mass of these dual particles arn't symmetric, but everythign else is trust me bro. The high mass is why we cant find them in collidors bro trust me.
Things are false until proven true, and instead of adopting reality, String Theorists have stranged the once simplistic and beautiful String Theory into a garbled math mess to make its numbers spit out similar things to what we find in nature.
String Theory is not science, if you are unable to make any testable claims you might as well have Thor be the one behind the magnetic force instead of magic strings, it doesn't change much.
that's a lot of bullshit lip flapping to say you aren't paying for the required testing equipment.
nearly everything in this post is false; clearly this poster is trying to regurgitate Sabine but screwing it up due to not having one iota of relevant education
>you gonna pay for a super collider that's big enough to circle the earth? Cause that's what we would need.
im saying thats not what we would need, it is relatively cheap to test string theory, its just none of the results come up in favor of string theory, and they have to change it every time.
I would gladly pay for any experiments you could come up with that could reasonably prove/disprove it, just so String Theorists can add more imaginary numbers and abstractions to their moronic theory.
>bullshit bullshit bullshit
We need a supercollider the size of the earth to get the clear resolution on the scale of string theory particle sizes. We need to fling antimater and mater at eachother at the speed of light to crack reality and prove there's more than the dimensions we see normally.
>We need a supercollider the size of the earth to get the clear resolution on the scale of string theory particle sizes. We need to fling antimater and mater at eachother at the speed of light to crack reality and prove there's more than the dimensions we see normally.
actual cope
Yeah physics is now just smashing rocks together as hard as we can, 150 IQ take
>Yeah physics is now just smashing rocks together as hard as we can
particle physics experimentation is exactly that. the higher the energy of the collision the more clearly you can see things at smaller scales. You morons say no one has ever proved string theory, and that's true. Because we need a supercollider that's orders of magnitude more powerful than anything ever built in order to see things on those scales and do the tests to prove it.
>We need to not see da strings to say its false!!!! otherwise im right!!!!
its crazy how much like a religion it is. Its not enough for the theory to not line up with reality, they just move the goalpost everytime, now its the supercollider, wonder what its gonna be next.
you:
>how do you prove it
me:
>like this
you:
>unintelligible bullshit and gibberish cope and denial
projecting lol, its ok that you dont understand it anon
I can prove to you gravity is real by throwing an apple at you, theres an underlying reality before we test the math
String Theory lacks this, why would we spend so much money testing something that cant even come up with a single testable example or claim.
anon is right, String Theory is just god of the gaps with extra steps.
>single testable example or claim.
unification of electromagnetism and gravity
now prove it outside of a whiteboard
>now prove it outside of a whiteboard
>now prove it outside of a whiteboard
>prove it without proving it
you might be moronic
God of the gaps, now with mathematical restrictions.
>Supercollider causes quark to break into more parts
What will happen then? Another dark age of science?
>What will happen then?
Cthulhu emerges from the 5th dimension to punish us puny mortals for trespassing on the realm of the gods
>Find new force
>Oh shit looks like i need to actually create another exponential copies of universe to account for this in new dimension!
>Find a better theory
Why? It:s only a marketing gag of an fraudulent church former known as science.
>no evidence for higher spacial dimensions
gravity, particles refusing to collide...
>Find a better theory
String theory is the only thing that makes sense at this point. Every other approach fails for obvious reasons in QFT. Granted part of this is because its so general.
>no evidence of higher dimensions
Many collider experiments suggest at there being small compactified dimensions. Its also the only thing that makes sense.
Its also not than far fetched, consider a sine wave. It travels along the entirety of one axis, but only +/- 1 in the other axis. If you zoom out enough you might think its just a 1-D line, instead of a 2-D wave.
>Why does string theory need 10, 11 or 26 dimensions to work?
The 26 comes from wanting to keep invariance of conformal field theory. The 10 come from reducing 26 using supersymmetry. The 11 come from trying to reconcile the different 10 dimensional theories using duality.
>now prove it outside of a whiteboard
Gibs money for dem colliders then.
Because a lot of scientist are "Platonists" and belief in arguments of "Naturalness" or "Mathematical Beauty" rather than accept that nature might be very ugly and gross.
nice attempt at scientific appropriation mr plato