they were, and that's what killed them
it's the same thing with sexy cars and women
they're fun for a while, but what you're actually going to settle for is a station wagon VW and a bit chubby and short brunette
i use a macbook air 13 inch with the m1 chip
small and very powerful
they took this from you (released in 1998)
worlds smallest laptop with normal CPU
(200 MHz Pentium MMX, laptop version but it just as powerful as 200 MHz MMX desktop CPU, it just that in 1998 there was already Pentium 2 available so 200 MHz MMX was not the fastest desktop CPU anymore)
I loved that machine. The keyboard was insanely good and it was a beautiful form factor. I would love it if HP made the same device with modern components.
its too slow CPU to do any computing
it can be used only for games
>put in a PS/2 mouse onto the PS/2 port (it has no USB) >use mouse to control RTS games
>supports MSDOS RTS games due to having MSDOS compatible sound chip that emulatos Sound Blaster 16 by hardware, no software is required:
-original command and conquer
-Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2
-supports some wingames like Starcraft Broodwar while you boot to Win95 or Win98 (WinXP is too demanding, no reason to install it) >games are run in resolutions 320x240 or 640x480
I have a "big" 11.5" screen one that is very slow, but was perfect for traveling. It was cheap, so I didn't care if it died, and made it way easier to research places, reserve rooms, and so forth instead of using a phone. The benefit to its size is that the keyboard is similar to my desktop's, so it feels very natural to type on. And if I felt sick or something and had to stay in, it was perfect for emulating or playing older games. I would definitely buy another netbook in preference to a mid- or large-sized laptop.
I like the look of this little fella a lot, but, no included cursor control whatsoever? Ouch.
Nah, they had shitty processors and no storage, because everything was internet based. They also had soldered everything: storage, ram, processor so nothing could be upgraded or changed. Really it was like using a cut-rate apple product.
Not that other anon. But there are different models. Some have soldered parts, while others don't. I'm speaking of Asus EEE PC, I don't know about other brands.
I don't think you realize how small a netbook is and how fat of a turd the air is. If someone put an apple logo on an HP Mini, you would cream your pants.
While my Dell Mini 9 is a half pound lighter, by the numbers it's physically bigger than my M1 Air. It just looks tiny because of the footprint.
Mini 9 1070g 1218 cm3
M1 Air 1300g 1033 cm3
I enjoyed my Mini 9 when it was my main portable. Fine for its time in school; portable, personal computing. But processing power aside, I don't think I'd pick it over the Air these days, except for the novelty of it. I want to get actual work done.
Imagine a company building netbooks with 8GB of RAM, an N100 CPU and a 500GB SSD. That would be awesome. Smol cute laptop with modern hardware and usable, unlike most old netboks that has very limited or low performing hardware.
>Imagine a company building netbooks with 8GB of RAM, an N100 CPU and a 500GB SSD. That would be awesome. Smol cute laptop with modern hardware and usable, unlike most old netboks that has very limited or low performing hardware.
GPD
ROG
More handhelds on the way
I get what you're saying however, I'm saying we're going in that direction with these devices
Having a real OS rather than some meme phone OS in a handheld device proves we can do it and that's all we need to make what we truly want a reality
I had one, It was a Samsung n130, It had absolute ass IO and would lock up trying to list any directory with a lot of files. I went full moron and tried to install gentoo on it and it didn't go good.
MacBook Air is just a better netbook. As it turned out, weight was the attractive metric all along, so engineers figured out how to get weight down without sacrificing screen and keyboard size.
I unironically find 90s brick laptops more portable than modern thinshit.
This, it has never helped anyone in the history of computers that your laptop is razor thin. It's the area it occupies that matters. You might be in a train or a plane with very little room but you still might have a tiny place to set it on, meaning that the thinness and weight don't matter at all. All they do is make your keyboard worse with no travel or feeling.
How fat a notebook is doesn't correlate with the travel distance of a their keyboard keys though, otherwise fat gaming notebooks would have low profile mechanical keyboard tier distance (and the non standard size of the keys in smaller notebooks makes it worse than low travel distance for me at least, I with they saved space with matrix/ortholinear layouts instead).
And size for me there are four: fits in a pocket (phone), fit in any small bag and can be one handed (kindle, ipad mini), fits easily in a regular backpack/briefcase without adding much weight, needs a larger bag and effort to carry. And both a netbook and a macbook air 13 (and similar, plus larger tablets especially with keyboard accessories) fall in the third.
that's not it, nebooks were so cheap and small, with slow 4200RPM HDD and meager RAM and a bloated OS, and the atom slower than a P3 that they were basically unusable .
yeah they were
perfectly sized keyboard
could fit in a cargo pants pocket
they had just the right amount of thickness
you could open them up and upgrade them
no useless periferals
everything was bare bones
so sexy
mine was the acer aspire one
I miss it so much
I don't really miss those times, the screens are too small to be comfortable and the weight/size difference isn't that different from a small notebook (especially in the sense that I will need a bag anyway). And if I really need a very small/lightweight computer I can do with a tablet/phone and a foldable bluetooth keyboard (if needed). That said while hardware wise it's much better now, I wish phone/tablets OS weren't so shit to do actual work.
A window manager doesn't matter in notebooks since I never use anything less than full screen applications most of the time. And I use the computers for programming (when I have no access to my dual-screen desktop), and while programming in a 9 inch is possible (and smaller keyboard), it's not worth it for a small gain in portability. And for other stuff I can use a tablet just fine (with half the weight).
why do they keep relegating them to shitbox status? Ive been waiting to buy one for a few years and only recently lenovo has one with 8gb ram, not even a ryzen model.
Netbooks died because the form factor sucked.
11.6" is the bare minimum usable laptop size and that's pushing it, most netbooks were inches smaller and even required active cooling because their CPUs were high strung little pieces of shit.
They didn't die for any specific reason. If you just want to browse Mongolian basket-waving forums you can just zoom in the text and the screen size becomes less or none of an issue.
The only problem was they were slowwwww as frick, at least the ones I used. Have fun opening more than 1 firefox tab on that piece of shit intel atom and 1GB of RAM.
>can't type comfortably >can't see shit with natural light >sluggish, hot and loud >poor battery life
X86 netbooks have always been utterly moronic. Only today with ARM or RISC-V one could design something that actually delivered on those promises but the market just isn't there
Typing feels fine on mine and I just got back from taking a walk outside with it. I'll agree it is sluggish though, but modern Atoms are way stronger compared to old ones. Bet they'd run lightweight distros like a dream.
No they aren't. They fill basically zero niches. Too big for a pocket and not large enough that they don't represent missed opportunity if you put them in basically any normal sized bag (the opportunity cost being a more normal sized laptop (14" and up)
"market forces"
apple did what other manufacturers chose not to do, which was thinning the chassis as much as they possibly could, because they new their highly vertical integration could allow for it
then everyone was forced to go that way
we've been fighting thermals verses the ability for a laptop to slide under a door ever since
it's tragic
I'm seriously considering steamdeck + hotspot as a smartphone replacement. Just need someway to bridge SMS to the steamdeck. Hell, steamdeck even comes with its own "appstore"
God I hate Ruby. That language and all of its users are moronic.
Python is pretty mediocre but I sure as hell am glad fricking Ruby didn't win out over it.
No, both "willing" and "female" are immutable and tied in this context; if they are not *both* mutually available, the the option becomes "grass" by default (no: ass, arse, dog, rabbit, [insert animal here] is not substituent to grass!)
I have this. The form factor is perfect. Unfortunately I bought the single core version like a moron. Even on lightweight linux distros it chugs over nothing.
not super comfy to type in most of them tho but i think people would like that kind of portability at a nice price again. beats buying a paperweight like those chrome shitbooks
I used one for a while and it sucked ass. Tiny ass screen, shitty keyboard, shitty specs. WinXP/early ubuntu days. You used to be able to get them for free because nobody knew how to reinstall Windows without a CD-drive back then
They still technically sell netbooks as "2-in-1" computers. Those ones that fold into a tablet, they're about the same exact dimensions and specs as the netbooks.
Most machines you remove the bottom panel and get access to everything. The Aspire One has RAM slots on both sides of the motherboard, so you had to remove it to upgrade both. If you could remove the keyboard to get to the other slot, then fine, but that wasn't the case. I think there was also some maneuvering required around the hinge to remove the bottom of the case.
I like to be able to use mine in bed, on a single knee, or just to hold it in one hand while I'm walking around. A big 16" monster is too unweildy for that.
While netbooks weren't locked down too much, you still can't do shit with them before heat death of the universe. They were made for web-browsing and occasionally typing a paper or two, something that tablets excel at.
But can you get a tablet as cheap as you can get a small laptop? I have a cheap tablet that cost me more than my Thinkpad X200 and I know for a fact that the X200 blows the tablet out of the water for casual day to day use. The tablet is only really good for watching shit in bed, and even then it can't do 720p without infinite stuttering.
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>tablet is only really good for watching shit in bed
I have a samsung galaxy tab S9 ultra and it can do everything I want it to do, and well
Only exception is technical shit like programming
Programming and photoshop are probably the only things I need an actual PC for
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You absolutely can.
I have 2017 tablet that I paid maybe 150 bucks four years ago, so now they're probably dime a dozen. OLED screen, quad speakers, and handles 1080p just fine.
I tried buying one as my main pc once and I brought it home, sat it on my desk, looked at its tiny screen and tiny keyboard, thought "this is my life now", then panicked and returned it to the store for a refund
I've never owned a tablet, but assuming they can run unlocked Linux distros easily, I could see the case that a tablet + foldable keyboard is more flexible and practical than a netbook. The tablet probably isn't x86 and won't have an Ethernet port (it matters to me emotionally) or more practical ports. However, it can also be detached for casual reading and tasks where you don't need the keyboard at that moment. Assuming that the performance : cost ratio is anywhere near the same.
You can get a usb-c hub with ethernet, hdmi and many other ports for cheap. Though yes, doing work is inconvenient in tablets so I only use them as a second screen support for a notebook when it comes to actual work like coding (since they can share the keyboard and a usable OS with the note this way).
no they were shitty, they had horrible cpus, horrible 1024x600 screens, tiny cramped keyboards
they only existed to be cheap and disposable and to sell to clueless people for under $200. for like $100 more you could get a real small laptop with something like the amd e-350 and a 11-inch screen, which was much more usable as far as small laptops go.
I won't totally disagree with you that the first models were indeed so shit they were barely usable. I still remember back around 2009 when a coworker purchased a second-gen eeePC to use as a field tool for field tech support, however when I tried it, even for very basic use it was terrible. He used it for a few weeks, then shoved it in the back of his desk drawer and I never saw him use it again.
However, later netbook models from the early 2010s are much better. I'm particularly fond of the Acer Aspire One.
>even for very basic use it was terrible
It was probably an Asus 701. I have one and yes, they are terrible. Specs were on par with a machine from 1999.
It's hilarious that you could upgrade these to 2GB of RAM, half of its 4GB flash storage.
The screen and tiny soldered SSD were the worst things about it.
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>The screen and tiny soldered SSD were the worst things about it
The entire machine is pretty terrible. The ability to upgrade it to 2gb of ram is nice, but really didn't help much when you had a celeron 630mhz cpu in 2008 when most laptops had already been shipping with dual core processors and 4gb of ram for a year or two.
The only thing I could see this being useful for is as a terminal hooked up to an external display in a closet somewhere.
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Has no one done a mod where you remove all the bezel area (and camera) and replace the screen with a larger, higher resolution one?
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It wouldn't be worth it on a machine with these specs.
i thought the minimum was the 1.6ghz atoms
i knew there were some with soldered flash. Mine at least had an sata 2.5 bay. Came with an hdd was fricking slow, but upgraded to an ssd and 2gb of ram and was usable for light use
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i find surprising how little they were modded, but the bios are really close. I would need to get an modified bios just to change the wifi chipset, and that is meant to be swapable
My X101CH with an ssd was very usable in 2012, even with the soldered in 1gb of ram. Still use it as a media center PC. Can do local HD video capably.
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i thought the minimum was the 1.6ghz atoms
i knew there were some with soldered flash. Mine at least had an sata 2.5 bay. Came with an hdd was fricking slow, but upgraded to an ssd and 2gb of ram and was usable for light use
Has no one done a mod where you remove all the bezel area (and camera) and replace the screen with a larger, higher resolution one?
i find surprising how little they were modded, but the bios are really close. I would need to get an modified bios just to change the wifi chipset, and that is meant to be swapable
the n270 which was in ~90% of the ones i saw was about as fast as a 2ghz pentium 4, excruciatingly slow even before flashpocalypse, but whats more annoying was the 1024x600 resolution they all had which breaks most websites, and the fricking keyboards.my hands are 8.5" accross, 90% is the usable limit
the e-350 and e-1200 had a short life of decent usabillity in the 11.6" models before web bloat killed all of them off, i dont think the later atoms made it out of industrial / nuc's, ive only ever seen D510/N455's in their later models, barely faster than the N270s
From my knowledge, the Atoms N2XX, N5XX and N2XXX were all about half as fast a Pentium M clocked at 1.7 GHz.
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yes, doubly funny that those chips could come in 12.1" subnotebooks and be undervolted hilariously so with rmclock at similar prices since those machines were already ~5 years old
>my N5030 with 8gb is perfectly usable today
Oh wow, hardware from less than five years ago is still fine today?!
name a budget embedded chip that was usable 3y after launch, ill wait
I own a gpd pocket 1 and a steam deck.
The pocket was kino up until the keyboard died and now I can't be fricked replacing it. It's USB transfer speeds were fricked up too which really killed it for me.
The Steam deck is awesome though and I use it all the time. A steam deck with detachable controllers and keyboard would be awesome.
Really dislike the term "netbook". Reeks of marketing, same with "notebook" "chromebook" "macbook" "ultrabook" "dynabook" "suface book" "powerbook" "pixelbook" "yoga book" "zen book" "elitebook" "matebook" "flexbook" "vivobook" "transformer book" and all the others
If they didn't gimp them with shitty OSs we'd be in a better place. If they made a stripped down windows for netbooks they would have sold like hotcakes but instead they didn't and normies drifted towards tablets.
No, if you live in the year 2024 and not the year 2006. I literally can't think of the last time I had a machine with less than 16GB in the last like 15 years.
4gb ram, 128gb storage. The ram is soldered and there is an 8gb model, but i forgot to look the specs when buying lmao. i think it'll be fine tho, i'll just run a lightweight window manager on it
I've paid around $100 including shipping, excluding customs. Not sure if worth it tbh, but if I don't like it, I think I'd be able to sell it on ebay for around that price since japanese laptops are rare on english auction sites.
ok all of you morons ITT let me show you the way >Thinkpad X12 detachable >thin and light >modern specs >x86 platform >flawless Linux support (wifi, touchscreen, pen, etc) >alright keyboard with clit >extremely repairable with a full teardown in the official manual >cheap refurbished from corpos (got mine new open box for 400$)
don't tell the normies about this, this machine has been absolutely fricking amazing, gen2 just came out and I wish I held off on the gen1 because I want the new one now
I had an ipad before this and this is a legitimate replacement if you know how to configure your tiling window manager
Just got a Samsung N150 for $50, anything cool I can do with it? Whats a good distro/DE for a machine like this, maybe use it as a dumb terminal for the Steam Deck or something dumb like that.
they were, and that's what killed them
it's the same thing with sexy cars and women
they're fun for a while, but what you're actually going to settle for is a station wagon VW and a bit chubby and short brunette
they took this from you (released in 1998)
worlds smallest laptop with normal CPU
(200 MHz Pentium MMX, laptop version but it just as powerful as 200 MHz MMX desktop CPU, it just that in 1998 there was already Pentium 2 available so 200 MHz MMX was not the fastest desktop CPU anymore)
my Jornada 720 begs to differ
Jornada has ARM CPU so its not really "PC" so its not so easy to compare to this
I loved that machine. The keyboard was insanely good and it was a beautiful form factor. I would love it if HP made the same device with modern components.
My mom had one of those. Wonder if she still does.
It's a real shame they don't make these anymore. They were the perfect form factor.
Sovl.
Every time I see a Japanese keyboard I'm reminded of how insane typing in Japanese actually is
Just use romaji input
Nobody uses hiragana input mode though
Even nips type in romaji.
very cool but what kind of computing would you do on it?
its too slow CPU to do any computing
it can be used only for games
>put in a PS/2 mouse onto the PS/2 port (it has no USB)
>use mouse to control RTS games
>supports MSDOS RTS games due to having MSDOS compatible sound chip that emulatos Sound Blaster 16 by hardware, no software is required:
-original command and conquer
-Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2
-supports some wingames like Starcraft Broodwar while you boot to Win95 or Win98 (WinXP is too demanding, no reason to install it)
>games are run in resolutions 320x240 or 640x480
Playing RTS games without a mouse is masochistic though.
I have a "big" 11.5" screen one that is very slow, but was perfect for traveling. It was cheap, so I didn't care if it died, and made it way easier to research places, reserve rooms, and so forth instead of using a phone. The benefit to its size is that the keyboard is similar to my desktop's, so it feels very natural to type on. And if I felt sick or something and had to stay in, it was perfect for emulating or playing older games. I would definitely buy another netbook in preference to a mid- or large-sized laptop.
I like the look of this little fella a lot, but, no included cursor control whatsoever? Ouch.
Pretty sure that knob on the right is just that, cursor control.
You're probably right, for some reason I thought it was foam and it was a microphone or something.
>they took this from you
let me introduce to you the best portable PC called the Steam Deck
I want a keyboard. If I was ok without that I'd just get a smartphone and put postmarketos on it.
No they didn't.
If you love it so much you can always make your own cyberdeck or something.
Nah, they had shitty processors and no storage, because everything was internet based. They also had soldered everything: storage, ram, processor so nothing could be upgraded or changed. Really it was like using a cut-rate apple product.
I had one of the older XP era Acer netbooks and I'm pretty sure I remember the ram, battery, and hard disk being removable.
Not that other anon. But there are different models. Some have soldered parts, while others don't. I'm speaking of Asus EEE PC, I don't know about other brands.
Really depends on the model. My Eee PC has upgradeable RAM, a SATA HDD, and a mini PCI slot.
>a bit chubby and short brunette
So, the best kind of women then?
Tablets/iPads killed them in 2010.
AI wrote this 100%, moronic af and basically nonsense
i use a macbook air 13 inch with the m1 chip
small and very powerful
nowhere near as small as e.x. Toshiba Satellite Mini or the smallest Sony Vaios
11-inch MacBook Air > any 13-inch MacBook Air
Yeah they should have put the m1 in that but they still haven't
it's 16:9 old model vs 16:10 in the 13
13 for me every time - plenty of real estate but I don't portable it
Are you really comparing a 16:9 laptop with pig fat bezels with one 16:10 with thin bezels? They have basically the same size
>11 inch
You have feminine hands
I don't think you realize how small a netbook is and how fat of a turd the air is. If someone put an apple logo on an HP Mini, you would cream your pants.
While my Dell Mini 9 is a half pound lighter, by the numbers it's physically bigger than my M1 Air. It just looks tiny because of the footprint.
Mini 9 1070g 1218 cm3
M1 Air 1300g 1033 cm3
I enjoyed my Mini 9 when it was my main portable. Fine for its time in school; portable, personal computing. But processing power aside, I don't think I'd pick it over the Air these days, except for the novelty of it. I want to get actual work done.
>I want to get actual work done.
Such as?
footprint is what matters though. A lot places you can fit an 11" machine, but can't fit a 13" one.
I'm de-mosaicing your photo
Black person did you mean those hp minis that are literally like 2-3 times higher than modern normie macs?
they wanted to replace the netbook with tablets so you have a baby OS that can't do any computing on it other than consoom product
Imagine a company building netbooks with 8GB of RAM, an N100 CPU and a 500GB SSD. That would be awesome. Smol cute laptop with modern hardware and usable, unlike most old netboks that has very limited or low performing hardware.
>Imagine a company building netbooks with 8GB of RAM, an N100 CPU and a 500GB SSD.
ever heard of GPD?
Yes but they're stupidly overpriced. The only one that fits my needs is the Pocket 3 and that shit costs over 1k€
If they did cost like 330 eur we would have a winner
I could imagine a horde of people getting one of those
>If they did cost like 330 eur
you can buy used
thats true and thats what I am gonna do when I find a reasonable offering
>Yes but they're stupidly overpriced.
Yeah, well, you can't expect a product filling very specific niche to go for reasonable price
there are exceptions to this and some things do come cheap, just not in computer world
>there are exceptions to this
I don't believe there are, GPD is basically the only company that offers such product and it's low volume as well
I mean, "not in the computer world"
meanwhile these tools are great
but there are over 9000 chink companies manufacturing those, no such market for tiny laptops
okay you are right on that
there is massive contest so always someone appears who can offer a cheap one (and still good)
there are chink companies making cheap netbooks in current year. They have atrocious build quality, but they exist.
imagine lidl laptop
One thing is a very niche product and another one is charging 3-4 times as much as regular laptops with similar hardware
>as much as regular laptops with similar hardware
yeah, except you pay for the size factor
It's perfectly okay to charge extra for the small form factor, but not abuse the price with that much increase.
supply and demand really
if people weren't willing to pay that much, they would be cheaper
Or they would remove them from form sale because not enough interest to be commercially viable
that's a possibility as well
girls poo dorn?
really more of a UMPC than netbook. Besides,, those are built mostly for gaming. They have terrible keyboards.
Starlite.
Isn't that just a tablet with a keyboard?
Yes, it is. But on a regular x86 platform.
>Imagine a company building netbooks with 8GB of RAM, an N100 CPU and a 500GB SSD. That would be awesome. Smol cute laptop with modern hardware and usable, unlike most old netboks that has very limited or low performing hardware.
GPD
ROG
More handhelds on the way
>ROG
I don't want overpriced gayming machine, I want a notebook with modern hardware
I get what you're saying however, I'm saying we're going in that direction with these devices
Having a real OS rather than some meme phone OS in a handheld device proves we can do it and that's all we need to make what we truly want a reality
You don't want a notebook at all, you just want a cheap decent laptop.
GPD is the closest to doing it. Although 8GB is laughably small these days and you could easily have more. Same with SSD and CPU.
>Although 8GB is laughably small these days
Only if you're a degenerate consoomer, or worse, a gamer.
This. Only exception is for professional video/photo editing.
Most decent games do fine in 4gb-8gb. Factorio for example would be totally playable on that.
My laptop has 8GB and it is fine for what I use it for.
If I'm going to need more RAM I'm not using my laptop for it, I'd do it on my desktop.
I had one, It was a Samsung n130, It had absolute ass IO and would lock up trying to list any directory with a lot of files. I went full moron and tried to install gentoo on it and it didn't go good.
watch looks kino, bubble glass make me hngggggg
any /wt/ autists itt ?
>any /wt/ autists itt ?
Yeah I love watches, can't wear one though cause they restrict blood flow to my wrists and it ends up hurting.
get something adjustable then vro
gshick square recoomended
just get it with a perlon then
looks a lot like my vostok komandirskie amphibia
PEDOPHILE
There's one simple rule for creating a device that neckbeards will think is le epic sexy design: Give it a small keyboard
hnnngggg muh dick
https://github.com/penk/penkesu#readme
Blue background board butthole! That's definitely porn. be right back ...
Wowee look at this thing, it has a small keyboard
the lite version looks better
I'm gonna cummmmm
>*slurps*
>Maid Computer Thread
No way, Maid Computer Guy? Is that you?
A desktop setup is unusable without an aesthetic small keyboard. That's just a fact - I don't make the rules.
2013 take me back... When the only 40% keyboards in existence were nerd autist one of a kind projects
How do you type numbers on that?
reverse leetspeak
>typing numbers
average PC user has no need to type any numbers
That might be the stupidest shit I've ever read. How do you expect me to switch weapons in Doom?
You literally type the word "eight" or "four", for example.
i had that one
it was dogshit
MacBook Air is just a better netbook. As it turned out, weight was the attractive metric all along, so engineers figured out how to get weight down without sacrificing screen and keyboard size.
a lightweight 17" is still not portable
it is, you just gotta worry about Black folk snatching your backpack
so don't buy the 17" model?
I unironically find 90s brick laptops more portable than modern thinshit.
Ok troony
Fake AND gay
This, it has never helped anyone in the history of computers that your laptop is razor thin. It's the area it occupies that matters. You might be in a train or a plane with very little room but you still might have a tiny place to set it on, meaning that the thinness and weight don't matter at all. All they do is make your keyboard worse with no travel or feeling.
How fat a notebook is doesn't correlate with the travel distance of a their keyboard keys though, otherwise fat gaming notebooks would have low profile mechanical keyboard tier distance (and the non standard size of the keys in smaller notebooks makes it worse than low travel distance for me at least, I with they saved space with matrix/ortholinear layouts instead).
And size for me there are four: fits in a pocket (phone), fit in any small bag and can be one handed (kindle, ipad mini), fits easily in a regular backpack/briefcase without adding much weight, needs a larger bag and effort to carry. And both a netbook and a macbook air 13 (and similar, plus larger tablets especially with keyboard accessories) fall in the third.
that's not it, nebooks were so cheap and small, with slow 4200RPM HDD and meager RAM and a bloated OS, and the atom slower than a P3 that they were basically unusable .
I loved my acer aspire one. it had this removable battery in the back that you could get an upgraded chunky version of.
I have one of these. With the chunky battery. I have no idea what to do with it, but afaik it still works. Battery might not by now.
No.. they weren't
yeah they were
perfectly sized keyboard
could fit in a cargo pants pocket
they had just the right amount of thickness
you could open them up and upgrade them
no useless periferals
everything was bare bones
so sexy
mine was the acer aspire one
I miss it so much
>could fit in a cargo pants pocket
Lmao
there's nothing more shway than cargo pants
>you could open them up and upgrade them
>mine was the acer aspire one
that fricker makes you take out the whole damn mobo just to get to the hdd.
And slow as frick
I don't really miss those times, the screens are too small to be comfortable and the weight/size difference isn't that different from a small notebook (especially in the sense that I will need a bag anyway). And if I really need a very small/lightweight computer I can do with a tablet/phone and a foldable bluetooth keyboard (if needed). That said while hardware wise it's much better now, I wish phone/tablets OS weren't so shit to do actual work.
did you shit on the one on the left at some point
I just left it to rot in a closet for 10 years. I doubt I can turn it on anymore, I really should just throw away stuff more often.
you should test if it works. if it does, you can just get it cleaned and maybe sell it if you don't want it anymore.
>the screens are too small
Get a better window manager. I have a 13 inch laptop and could use a screen half this size comfortably.
A window manager doesn't matter in notebooks since I never use anything less than full screen applications most of the time. And I use the computers for programming (when I have no access to my dual-screen desktop), and while programming in a 9 inch is possible (and smaller keyboard), it's not worth it for a small gain in portability. And for other stuff I can use a tablet just fine (with half the weight).
you don't look too sexy if you have to wear these to read the screen.
why do they keep relegating them to shitbox status? Ive been waiting to buy one for a few years and only recently lenovo has one with 8gb ram, not even a ryzen model.
Is that a e11?
Netbooks died because the form factor sucked.
11.6" is the bare minimum usable laptop size and that's pushing it, most netbooks were inches smaller and even required active cooling because their CPUs were high strung little pieces of shit.
They didn't die for any specific reason. If you just want to browse Mongolian basket-waving forums you can just zoom in the text and the screen size becomes less or none of an issue.
Yeah, and phone does much better job.
The only problem was they were slowwwww as frick, at least the ones I used. Have fun opening more than 1 firefox tab on that piece of shit intel atom and 1GB of RAM.
>no numpad
nah, it's trash
Netbooks seemed like such a cool idea back when the internet wasn't a steaming ocean of shit from horizon to horizon.
>goybooks
>can't type comfortably
>can't see shit with natural light
>sluggish, hot and loud
>poor battery life
X86 netbooks have always been utterly moronic. Only today with ARM or RISC-V one could design something that actually delivered on those promises but the market just isn't there
Typing feels fine on mine and I just got back from taking a walk outside with it. I'll agree it is sluggish though, but modern Atoms are way stronger compared to old ones. Bet they'd run lightweight distros like a dream.
Asus EeePC
32 bits with 2Gb of RAM
Ubuntu back when it was Orange and had jungle chimes
Emacs fullscreen
navigate my home directory with dired.
Those were the days.
I wish those tablets with detachable keyboards were a modern days alternative to this peak mobility design.
>Netbooks
>Has a "small" size
>Sexy
You're just a pedo, Black person
They stll exist. Just look for 11" "education" notebooks and/or get one of those aliexpress specials.
>aliexpress special
And with 3 hours of battery time, just like in good old days.
>11 inch
bro this is a fricking netbook thread not a thread on bulky oversized monstrosities
people no longer understand what a netbook is, its not 10" its smaller than 10", the proper range is like 5.5" to 9", now thats a netbook
7" would be the best compromise by the way, thats the ideal size, not in a size of smartphone yet considerably smaller than a laptop
A netbook is a laptop design for browsing websites and nothing more. They're generally weak thus have no need to be large. That's all.
No they aren't. They fill basically zero niches. Too big for a pocket and not large enough that they don't represent missed opportunity if you put them in basically any normal sized bag (the opportunity cost being a more normal sized laptop (14" and up)
"market forces"
apple did what other manufacturers chose not to do, which was thinning the chassis as much as they possibly could, because they new their highly vertical integration could allow for it
then everyone was forced to go that way
we've been fighting thermals verses the ability for a laptop to slide under a door ever since
it's tragic
>their highly vertical integration
Their laptops were very standard PCs at the time.
I'm seriously considering steamdeck + hotspot as a smartphone replacement. Just need someway to bridge SMS to the steamdeck. Hell, steamdeck even comes with its own "appstore"
Computers can't be sexy. Saying that they are is just weird and gay.
I have one and its only purpouse is being an ssh terminal for my server
very sexy
So I'm not the only one. I also used it to learn useless languages like ruby.
I've wished so many times that Ruby had taken Python's place. I think it could have, too, if just a few small things had gone differently.
God I hate Ruby. That language and all of its users are moronic.
Python is pretty mediocre but I sure as hell am glad fricking Ruby didn't win out over it.
>netbooks were sexy
Touch grass, or ideally, a willing female.
>willing (optional)
No, both "willing" and "female" are immutable and tied in this context; if they are not *both* mutually available, the the option becomes "grass" by default (no: ass, arse, dog, rabbit, [insert animal here] is not substituent to grass!)
They were fun but also painfully slow and pretty poor to write on
For me it's the EeePC design where the battery is wedged in between the screen and the keyboard
I think my netbook is too anemic to run Mint + Cinnamon. What's a better lightweight option, maybe Arch with XFCE?
FreeDOS
netbooks are e-cores of laptops
they are like midgets of humen
For me, it's the Thinkpad x120e
I have this. The form factor is perfect. Unfortunately I bought the single core version like a moron. Even on lightweight linux distros it chugs over nothing.
install windows xp and it will be pretty snappy, id bet my life on it
X101ch chads report in
They still are. Posting from my Eee PC right now.
not super comfy to type in most of them tho but i think people would like that kind of portability at a nice price again. beats buying a paperweight like those chrome shitbooks
Netbooks got mogged by Ultrabooks and got left in a space of being too bulky for their features/capability.
Any good ultrabooks left in current year?
Macooks?
Anything that actually lets me do stuff with my computer?
I don't know. Lots of laptops fall into the Ultrabook category now.
It's basically just lightweight but powerful.
you know you're getting on in age when kids fetishize the crappy pieces of shit that you hated when you actually had to work with
Having no legs will make you miss having one. Having to deal with smartphones and Chromebooks has taught me to appreciate netbooks.
I used one for a while and it sucked ass. Tiny ass screen, shitty keyboard, shitty specs. WinXP/early ubuntu days. You used to be able to get them for free because nobody knew how to reinstall Windows without a CD-drive back then
They still technically sell netbooks as "2-in-1" computers. Those ones that fold into a tablet, they're about the same exact dimensions and specs as the netbooks.
You mean NEETbooks? You can't do anything in that piece of shit. Might as well get a tablet.
Any Acer Aspire One Chads here?
>want to upgrade RAM
>practically have to take entire machine apart
Yeah. Fit nicely on those little desktops in school, but I don't have that issue anymore.
have to take entire machine apart
Problem?
Most machines you remove the bottom panel and get access to everything. The Aspire One has RAM slots on both sides of the motherboard, so you had to remove it to upgrade both. If you could remove the keyboard to get to the other slot, then fine, but that wasn't the case. I think there was also some maneuvering required around the hinge to remove the bottom of the case.
It's a thing you do one time.
I like to be able to use mine in bed, on a single knee, or just to hold it in one hand while I'm walking around. A big 16" monster is too unweildy for that.
That's what tablets are for.
I miss my Acer Aspire One
For me it was
Modern tablets are better in every way
You can even use a keyboard and mouse if you want and have bluetooth ones
Tablets all suffer from being locked down pieces of shit.
While netbooks weren't locked down too much, you still can't do shit with them before heat death of the universe. They were made for web-browsing and occasionally typing a paper or two, something that tablets excel at.
But can you get a tablet as cheap as you can get a small laptop? I have a cheap tablet that cost me more than my Thinkpad X200 and I know for a fact that the X200 blows the tablet out of the water for casual day to day use. The tablet is only really good for watching shit in bed, and even then it can't do 720p without infinite stuttering.
>tablet is only really good for watching shit in bed
I have a samsung galaxy tab S9 ultra and it can do everything I want it to do, and well
Only exception is technical shit like programming
Programming and photoshop are probably the only things I need an actual PC for
You absolutely can.
I have 2017 tablet that I paid maybe 150 bucks four years ago, so now they're probably dime a dozen. OLED screen, quad speakers, and handles 1080p just fine.
You can do basically anything a household pc can do on a netbook. You just have to be careful about which programs you use to do those things.
Yeah, but they have a touch screen, run android or ios, and don't have stout hinges.
I tried buying one as my main pc once and I brought it home, sat it on my desk, looked at its tiny screen and tiny keyboard, thought "this is my life now", then panicked and returned it to the store for a refund
Netbooks caused the downfall of Ubuntu
if only i could put more than 2gbs of ram in mine ill probably use it for random crap in my workshop
I've never owned a tablet, but assuming they can run unlocked Linux distros easily, I could see the case that a tablet + foldable keyboard is more flexible and practical than a netbook. The tablet probably isn't x86 and won't have an Ethernet port (it matters to me emotionally) or more practical ports. However, it can also be detached for casual reading and tasks where you don't need the keyboard at that moment. Assuming that the performance : cost ratio is anywhere near the same.
>The tablet probably isn't x86
Let me introduce you to the Starlite.
>Let me introduce you to the Starlite
Great choice in music.
You can get a usb-c hub with ethernet, hdmi and many other ports for cheap. Though yes, doing work is inconvenient in tablets so I only use them as a second screen support for a notebook when it comes to actual work like coding (since they can share the keyboard and a usable OS with the note this way).
I would never have thought to look for a USB hub for that. Good tip, thank you.
>zoomers trying to nostalgiagay fricking netbooks
no they were shitty, they had horrible cpus, horrible 1024x600 screens, tiny cramped keyboards
they only existed to be cheap and disposable and to sell to clueless people for under $200. for like $100 more you could get a real small laptop with something like the amd e-350 and a 11-inch screen, which was much more usable as far as small laptops go.
I won't totally disagree with you that the first models were indeed so shit they were barely usable. I still remember back around 2009 when a coworker purchased a second-gen eeePC to use as a field tool for field tech support, however when I tried it, even for very basic use it was terrible. He used it for a few weeks, then shoved it in the back of his desk drawer and I never saw him use it again.
However, later netbook models from the early 2010s are much better. I'm particularly fond of the Acer Aspire One.
>even for very basic use it was terrible
It was probably an Asus 701. I have one and yes, they are terrible. Specs were on par with a machine from 1999.
>Skype
c-could it even?
>0.3 megapixel webcam
It probably could and again would be terrible.
This was before the merger with Microsoft. Skype was ok back then.
It's hilarious that you could upgrade these to 2GB of RAM, half of its 4GB flash storage.
The screen and tiny soldered SSD were the worst things about it.
>The screen and tiny soldered SSD were the worst things about it
The entire machine is pretty terrible. The ability to upgrade it to 2gb of ram is nice, but really didn't help much when you had a celeron 630mhz cpu in 2008 when most laptops had already been shipping with dual core processors and 4gb of ram for a year or two.
The only thing I could see this being useful for is as a terminal hooked up to an external display in a closet somewhere.
Has no one done a mod where you remove all the bezel area (and camera) and replace the screen with a larger, higher resolution one?
It wouldn't be worth it on a machine with these specs.
My X101CH with an ssd was very usable in 2012, even with the soldered in 1gb of ram. Still use it as a media center PC. Can do local HD video capably.
i thought the minimum was the 1.6ghz atoms
i knew there were some with soldered flash. Mine at least had an sata 2.5 bay. Came with an hdd was fricking slow, but upgraded to an ssd and 2gb of ram and was usable for light use
i find surprising how little they were modded, but the bios are really close. I would need to get an modified bios just to change the wifi chipset, and that is meant to be swapable
the n270 which was in ~90% of the ones i saw was about as fast as a 2ghz pentium 4, excruciatingly slow even before flashpocalypse, but whats more annoying was the 1024x600 resolution they all had which breaks most websites, and the fricking keyboards.my hands are 8.5" accross, 90% is the usable limit
the e-350 and e-1200 had a short life of decent usabillity in the 11.6" models before web bloat killed all of them off, i dont think the later atoms made it out of industrial / nuc's, ive only ever seen D510/N455's in their later models, barely faster than the N270s
my N5030 with 8gb is perfectly usable today
>my N5030 with 8gb is perfectly usable today
Oh wow, hardware from less than five years ago is still fine today?!
From my knowledge, the Atoms N2XX, N5XX and N2XXX were all about half as fast a Pentium M clocked at 1.7 GHz.
yes, doubly funny that those chips could come in 12.1" subnotebooks and be undervolted hilariously so with rmclock at similar prices since those machines were already ~5 years old
name a budget embedded chip that was usable 3y after launch, ill wait
I own a gpd pocket 1 and a steam deck.
The pocket was kino up until the keyboard died and now I can't be fricked replacing it. It's USB transfer speeds were fricked up too which really killed it for me.
The Steam deck is awesome though and I use it all the time. A steam deck with detachable controllers and keyboard would be awesome.
>open netbook
>ssh into server
my netbook has 256gb ddr4 ecc memory and 32 cores/64 threads
Really dislike the term "netbook". Reeks of marketing, same with "notebook" "chromebook" "macbook" "ultrabook" "dynabook" "suface book" "powerbook" "pixelbook" "yoga book" "zen book" "elitebook" "matebook" "flexbook" "vivobook" "transformer book" and all the others
don't forget "laptop" and "personal computer"
fricking bullshit marketing
These things were insanely slow
You cannot seriously be nostalgic for watching chrome chug trying to order a fricking pizza
anyone got he parody one with the girl's panties?
I only those nerds knew they would become the girls with the mini laptops.
If they didn't gimp them with shitty OSs we'd be in a better place. If they made a stripped down windows for netbooks they would have sold like hotcakes but instead they didn't and normies drifted towards tablets.
unix + tigervnc-viewer + wifi cable = high performance windows on netbook
Windows CE and later Windows 7 Starter Edition were just that.
No, if you live in the year 2024 and not the year 2006. I literally can't think of the last time I had a machine with less than 16GB in the last like 15 years.
I have purchased a used Let's Note RZ6 (10" laptop from Japan) and I'm waiting for it to get shipped. What am I in for anons?
disappointment, probably
what specs is the model you are getting?
4gb ram, 128gb storage. The ram is soldered and there is an 8gb model, but i forgot to look the specs when buying lmao. i think it'll be fine tho, i'll just run a lightweight window manager on it
That's pretty light, hope you didn't pay a lot
I've paid around $100 including shipping, excluding customs. Not sure if worth it tbh, but if I don't like it, I think I'd be able to sell it on ebay for around that price since japanese laptops are rare on english auction sites.
>1024x600
Thanks, but no
Uohhhhhh ToT so light and compact, sleek and funny tooooooo erotic. Norton? Oh bratty netbook, this won't do, correction is needed ToT
>based ToT poem poster
who are you quoting?
it's "whom"
Talk me out of buying a HP Dragonfly.
That's not a moronic abortion survivor that netbooks were; it's a proper laptop. Looks pretty nice.
I used my Asus EEE as a homeserver for quite a few years and it served me well.
ok all of you morons ITT let me show you the way
>Thinkpad X12 detachable
>thin and light
>modern specs
>x86 platform
>flawless Linux support (wifi, touchscreen, pen, etc)
>alright keyboard with clit
>extremely repairable with a full teardown in the official manual
>cheap refurbished from corpos (got mine new open box for 400$)
don't tell the normies about this, this machine has been absolutely fricking amazing, gen2 just came out and I wish I held off on the gen1 because I want the new one now
I had an ipad before this and this is a legitimate replacement if you know how to configure your tiling window manager
They only sell the X13 now.
X13 is not detachable, and I don't care what sells on the official Lenovo website you can easily find X12's around
you can get an 11e with 8gb ram now
still waiting for MNT Pocket Reform, peak ortholinear + trackball
eee chads rise up
Just got a Samsung N150 for $50, anything cool I can do with it? Whats a good distro/DE for a machine like this, maybe use it as a dumb terminal for the Steam Deck or something dumb like that.