So I've been reading The Unique and Its Property after reading Nietzsche for a few months. And I've found plenty of similiarities between these two guys works.
>People no longer need God, it's been replaced
>You need to kill god in order to be free
>morality is cringe
>idealism is cringe
>rationalism is cringe
>community is cringe
>people are egoists they just won't admit it/ people want power they just won't admit it
>affirmation of life just how it is/ use of life to one's benefits
> "vitalism"/ nihilism
Was Nietzsche influenced by the milk guy or was it just a big coincidence?
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Forgot to say Nietzsche's never mentioned Stirner
nietzsche was probably aware of him but never read him. either way, nietzsche is superior.
Yeah, that's what they say. But it's quite intriguing that they share so many similiraties and Nietzsche somehow never mentions him
Not superior, thats a spook
You didn't get Nietzsche at all
Here comes the moron . Was expecting this reply tbh
I think it was just the times. He also has many similarities with Kierkegaard despite the religious differences. Both were critics of Hegel, both emphasized personal existence, attacked rationalism, etc.
I was sort of astonished by the similarities between them when I read the Present Age and I wondered whether Nietzsche just directly lifted from Kierkegaard.
Nietzsche's most valuable theoretical contributions are in his metaphilosophy. He prefigured a lot of the postmodernist concerns about language, the nature of concepts, etc. That's what puts him in a special class of his own apart from Stirner and the other people who were writing similar things at the time. His "first-order" thoughts about morality, individualism, etc are definitely cool, but that's not really the heart of his work.
>He prefigured a lot of the postmodernist concerns about language, the nature of concepts, etc.
This is prefigured in Stirner as well.
What's the best english edition of The Ego and its Own? Was planning to buy it tonight but every edition I find in Amazon and eBay seems to lack pages and have negative reviews about the format.
there's only two translations the old one and the wolfi one, I prefer the old one it has more character and captures stirners voice better imo the new one seems too modern.
Difference between Nietzsche and Stirner is that Nietzsche is the philologist and far more learned in general, allowing him to not just posit a healthy philosophy for the modern age but also cultivate it in an actionable political plan with ambitions rivaling those of Imperial Rome.
>cultivate it in an actionable political plan with ambitions rivaling those of Imperial Rome.
>We mUsT CuLtIvAtE OuR VaLuEs
kek atheists are truly intellectual worms
I don't see how atheists are related when israelites, Christians, and Muslims all think the same
the people during his time asked him the same thing, according to himself no but his work screams of plagarism
is cringe
are egoists they just won't admit it/ people want power they just won't admit it
>Nietzsche detests inaction
>Believes in ideals which inevitably lead to inaction
Frick he's so tiresome. Haven't read Stirner so he might have more interesting ideas but being compared to Nietzsche is not a good sign imho.
personally i liked his book, he will at first read like a absolute butthole but if you manage to avoid being filtered you see that he starts to make sense and isn't as psycho as he comes off as
is cringe
"When power becometh gracious and descendeth into the visible—I call such condescension, beauty.
And from no one do I want beauty so much as from thee, thou powerful one: let thy goodness be thy last self-conquest.
All evil do I accredit to thee: therefore do I desire of thee the good.
Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings, who think themselves good because they have crippled paws!"
is cringe
"The order of castes, the order of rank, simply formulates the supreme law of life itself; the separation of the three types is necessary to the maintenance of society, and to the evolution of higher types, and the highest types—the inequality of rights is essential to the existence of any rights at all.—A right is a privilege. Every one enjoys the privileges that accord with his state of existence. Let us not underestimate the privileges of the mediocre. Life is always harder as one mounts the heights—the cold increases, responsibility increases. A high civilization is a pyramid: it can stand only on a broad base; its primary prerequisite is a strong and soundly consolidated mediocrity. The handicrafts, commerce, agriculture, science, the greater part of art, in brief, the whole range of occupational activities, are compatible only with mediocre ability and aspiration; such callings would be out of place for exceptional men;"
is cringe
"Higher than love to your neighbour is love to the furthest and future ones; higher still than love to men, is love to things and phantoms.
The phantom that runneth on before thee, my brother, is fairer than thou; why dost thou not give unto it thy flesh and thy bones? But thou fearest, and runnest unto thy neighbour"
"The virtue of the pillar shalt thou strive after: more beautiful doth it ever become, and more graceful—but internally harder and more sustaining—the higher it riseth.
Yea, thou sublime one, one day shalt thou also be beautiful, and hold up the mirror to thine own beauty.
Then will thy soul thrill with divine desires; and there will be adoration even in thy vanity!
For this is the secret of the soul: when the hero hath abandoned it, then only approacheth it in dreams—the superhero."
>>use of life to one's benefits
"But it is not the danger of the noble man to turn a good man, but lest he should become a blusterer, a scoffer, or a destroyer.
Ah! I have known noble ones who lost their highest hope. And then they disparaged all high hopes.
Then lived they shamelessly in temporary pleasures, and beyond the day had hardly an aim.
“Spirit is also voluptuousness,”—said they. Then broke the wings of their spirit; and now it creepeth about, and defileth where it gnaweth.
Once they thought of becoming heroes; but sensualists are they now. A trouble and a terror is the hero to them.
But by my love and hope I conjure thee: cast not away the hero in thy soul! Maintain holy thy highest hope!"
>spooks
tl;dr
Read pic related. It will show you the path from Hegel to Nietzsche. It mentions Stirner, Marx and so forth.
I've ever more convinced that Nietzsche is fundamentally incomprehensible to this board.
the meme is no longer funny
Stirner and Nietzsche are just Thrasymachus with too many words.
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