>nietzsche hated this because it wasn't le based master morality and le "classical"

>nietzsche hated this because it wasn't le based master morality and le "classical"

why couldn't he just appreciate the good elements of christianity? why did he have to reject it all?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    N was chronically addicted to masturbation

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's always the same story, isn't it.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Such is modern atheism. Masturbation rules their mind and routine. Christianity states it is better to cut off your hand than be tempted by it. And so he spent his life trying to convince everyone masturbation is actually good

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        So that's why you cut your dicks off? Lmao christrannies exposed

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's just like me frfr

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      christianity is a perverse religion

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wouldn't be scandalous enough

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    He rejected it because at its core it is an ascetic religion based on the rejection of the flesh. Cathedral in its beauty is obviously a celebration of worldliness and the flesh too.

    Why does Christianity reject all of the elements of flesh? Why don't they accept that there is a god in the world? Afterall, God the father died and so did his son, and all that is left is the earthly holy spirit.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are you quoting? Did he talk about this cathedral?

      >Why does Christianity reject all of the elements of flesh?
      What are you quoting? There's like one sect that can be charged with that and they all died, as is logically consistent with that philosophy.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does Christianity reject all of the elements of flesh?
      You're allowed to have sex in Christianity, anon.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only for the purpose that you mimic the image of god; the creator's creator. Making sex not worldly but heavenly.

        I've never seen you should have sex because
        a) you want to.
        b) it is natural. Animals do it.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you accept a materialist non-christian ontology, then using words like "worldly" makes no sense as there's no such thing as worldly values since all values are worldly.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He rejected it because at its core it is an ascetic religion based on the rejection of the flesh.
      More accurately he rejects the mass religion for being nihilist, e.g. rejecting this life in favor of an afterlife. He doesn't have a problem with asceticism and praises the saints for it.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >at its core it is an ascetic religion based on the rejection of the flesh. Cathedral in its beauty is obviously a celebration of worldliness and the flesh too.
      >he isn't acquainted with that point where the inner and outer meet
      There's a reason they're called mysteries anon. If you had the humility to submit yourself to faith, you too, could see.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's because he fundamentally misunderstood Christianity. There are things to criticise the churchly institution for, but the spirit itself is beyond reproach, something which Nietzsche refused to see. Also he was a terminal helleneboo.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why ascribe a degree of innocence to a man who quite obviously new that he was presenting strawmen, unfounded assertions, and logical fallacies? He knew exactly what he was doing. It wasn’t a misunderstanding. He simply did not like either what the Christian God called him to do or what the conventions of philosophical investigation called him to do. The eternal rebel inside of him simply wanted to do as it pleased.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        What are you referencing you mindless moron? Who are you morons fricking quoting?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I didn’t quote anything you illiterate. Can’t you read?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you're really not talking about anything except your own deranged fantasies, and you're proud of that. Absolute vegetable.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’m not following. Do you think I had to directly quote Nietzsche in order to say something about his writing? What are you getting at here? Clearly, there’s some convention at work here that you get and literally nobody else does.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone in this thread is making up fantasies about groups and then attacking those deranged fantasies. morons like you ranting about Nietzsche who apparently never read a word or at least didn't understand any of it.
            On the other side are morons ranting about Christianity who apparently know nothing about it and have no interest in history.

            Actually quote or reference something so you can be corrected. Nobody but you has access to your insane pop media based fantasies unless you reference something.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            But see, this is the thing about Nietzsche fan boys like yourself. One of you summarizes Nietzsche’s writing in a way that’s flattering of the writer and you all acknowledge it in agreement and pretend you’re all Nietzsche scholars using quotations and clear citations and you’ve challenged his presuppositions and then simply stating what logically follows from his arguments. But then anytime some does the same thing with a negative assessment of Nietzsche, you immediately resort to insisting they never actually read his books, that they’re just stupid, so and on so forth. I would propose that the reason you do that is because, like Nietzsche himself, you are dishonest and resentful, and that’s also probably why you gravitate to his philosophy.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your first example may be done in the spirit of exploration. It can be generative. Your supposed "critiques" aren't about exploring anything or challenging anything actually presented by anyone, thus no quotes, they're about stopping any of these possible generative processes before they even begin.

            There are plenty of moronic summaries presented about everything under the sun and morons will show up praising all those variations. Does that make your moronic summaries based on nothing any better? You can't even reference anything real because deep down you know you're just regurgitating third hand memes.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the spirit itself is beyond reproach, something which Nietzsche refused to see
      he saw it very clearly, you are still living in the shadow of a corpse

      It's because Nietzsche was a materialist and wasn't able to cure himself of this delusion.

      You are not going to get Christianity if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus. If you believe the Resurrection couldn't have happened you'll NEVER understand Christianity.

      You have to believe that a man can rise from the dead.

      haha yeah you'd have to be a real madman to admit god is dead

      Houses the crown of thorns
      Not a pane shattered when the vicinity was bombed during ww2
      But you're right, essentially
      N had no reason to despise St. Chappelle
      Source?

      that's located in what is surely a Muslim neighborhood by now, yes?

      Honestly? It’s because he was resentful. He didn’t like his Protestant upbringing and he didn’t like the strict ethical commands that Christianity would’ve placed on him as a believer.

      It really is that simple.

      consider reading your opponents instead of their wikipedia bio

      Why ascribe a degree of innocence to a man who quite obviously new that he was presenting strawmen, unfounded assertions, and logical fallacies? He knew exactly what he was doing. It wasn’t a misunderstanding. He simply did not like either what the Christian God called him to do or what the conventions of philosophical investigation called him to do. The eternal rebel inside of him simply wanted to do as it pleased.

      >quite obviously new that he was presenting strawmen, unfounded assertions, and logical fallacies
      you don't feel any shame as an armchair theologian accusing others of making things up out of thin air?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        St Chapelle's located on the Ile de la cité (one of the natural islands on the Seine, right in the heart of Paris) so I'd imagine the rents there are pretty high. But really, I don't know.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's because Nietzsche was a materialist and wasn't able to cure himself of this delusion.

    You are not going to get Christianity if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus. If you believe the Resurrection couldn't have happened you'll NEVER understand Christianity.

    You have to believe that a man can rise from the dead.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you don't believe in israeli zombies then you don't understand my israeli fairytales
      lmao, delusional christcucks

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Faith

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          you have no faith

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        shut up israelite, hope someday i see someone talk like that outside and i can shoot him in the face

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anti-semite
          >worships a dead rabbi as master of the universe
          can't take Nietzsche haters seriously

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    He hated the text, not Christianity as it actually existed.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    All "the good elements of christianity" are beautiful things white people built around it, like the architecture of churches. Who cares if Nietzche doesn't share your opinion on architecture. He was getting at something more important.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Nietzsche even disagrees with you that the middle ages were fun, as the world of saracens and troubadours puts the Protestant bourgeois to shame, but the second sons of Europe's aristocracy commissioning art and monuments centuries after the conversion to Christianity is hardly the essence of Christian morality, let alone its genealogy.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing christian in this architecture. Jesus didn't commission it. It's medieval french art.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Houses the crown of thorns
      Not a pane shattered when the vicinity was bombed during ww2
      But you're right, essentially
      N had no reason to despise St. Chappelle
      Source?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      All the good things from Christianity are coincidentally alien to it?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        that about sums it up yeah

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much.

          cope

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then why was israelitesus the only "spiritual" thing your ancestors ever babbled about? You're just Faustian israelites and don't even any cultural continuity to pre-Christian times.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >even any
        even have any*

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The history of Europe is the history of a long war of liberation from the shackles of abrahamic supersitition. If you don't understand that, you're not one of us.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Secular liberalism is the same thing.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          And what a massive success that was, eh? What a glorious future awaits us, huh?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          So where do we go from here?

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly? It’s because he was resentful. He didn’t like his Protestant upbringing and he didn’t like the strict ethical commands that Christianity would’ve placed on him as a believer.

    It really is that simple.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it even possible to make a worse thread than this? Why does IQfy attract the dumbest illiterate morons that have ever walked the earth? The video game board is full of geniuses in comparison.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's only this bad in threads about philosophy. Why? Philosophy attracts idiots like nothing else. Not because philosophy is bad, but well, you know why.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    source?

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    New wallpaper, thanks anon

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Cathedral in NYC has a gorgeous chapel that rivals this in splendour.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    was he a pissbaby chud
    or a Black personhomosexual troony

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the good elements of christianity
    he was a homosexual who jerked off a lot, so yeah, he definitely did

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