Can conform and I confirm, I carry a ST. name and they send me back into the psychiatric treches every once in a while. Nowadays what used to be prophets and saints are people who as stricly as possible adhere to -isms, 0 fun to be around but at least someone's having fun - as usually is the case with people who are rallying behind a cause with purpose.
schizophrenia literally did not exist until the 19th century. i'm not saying that is in "it's made up" or "it wasn't named/identified until the 19th century", i mean it did not exist then, and now it does. Jesus could not have been schizophrenic because the environmental conditions that cause schizophrenia did not yet exist
I can’t really do much with Nietzsche. He is more an artist than a philosopher; he doesn’t have the crystal-clear understanding of Schopenhauer. Of course, I value Nietzsche as a genius. He writes possibly the most beautiful language that German literature has to offer us today, but he is not my guide.
His music is also shitty. I think it's a lack of attunement to his emotions. It's funny how he cam have such a keen eye and yet be so blind at the same time. Wagner was the opposite; perfectly attuned to his emotions yet politically blind.
His music was mediocre because he was educated as an instrumentist, and not as a composer. Wagner considered him an excellent pianist, and he and Cosima would listen to him playing extensively. Had he practiced composition instead he might have done something good, but given the state of his education he could only be a dilettante when it came to composition.
>he doesn't feel his heart soar with joy when Prince Vogelfrei sings an amateurish song exhalting freedom with terrible metre and tortured metaphors
Sad!
Yes. How would I know if he wasn't already insane when he was writing his thoughts? I might as well stop and listen at the menhera homeless guy on the subway.
>How would I know if he wasn't already insane when he was writing his thoughts?
You can tell because his actual writing is already insane and non-sensical. >pick up one of his books >duuhhh principle identity is wrong because I can't find a thing with my eyes >put one of his books down and read something else
Ah you’ve never actually meaningfully read his work before
Honestly the fact that he is pretty hard to understand and comprehend makes it seem like schizo babble, how do you expect me to trust a man in that state and his writings? He just seems like a depressed hooker fricker that got rejected by his crush only to die alone sad and insane. Seems like a reasonable character to me.
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What was his intentions when even wrote those books. He could have died a very rich man someone of his rhetorical ability.
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Why does „trust“ even enter into the equation of anybody you read? This dependence on friend/foe dialectics before you can gain from a philosopher is bizarre and ironically a major focus of Nietzsche‘s work.
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>Honestly the fact that he is pretty hard to understand and comprehend makes it seem like schizo babble
Have you considered maybe you are not intelligent enough to be the intended audience?
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>Incoherent babble >"Nuh-uh you're just not smart enough to understand it!"
You're just trying to stroke your own ego.
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Einstein spent his final years coping beyond belief, he's a normal man like anyone.
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I understand kant, schopenhaur, hegel and the such, but not Nietzsche. Nietzsche is simply all over the place and just seems like a emo venting his issues instead of actually understanding the world and how it works.
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Because Nietzsche is the philosophy of not knowing. Nietzsche is about diving into the chaos and uncertaintly of life, and to embrace the richness of everything, both good and bad.
Nietzsche is not an idea, but more of a portal to showing you a world in which everything is richer and more meaningful, without putting everything into a neatly labled box like most other philosophers would do.
Nietzsche is not even in the same realm as those names you listed, he is like seeing the world in colour when you are used to seeing things in black and white. He is adding a whole new dimension to philosophy, and for that reason you would not be able to understand him without diving into life head first like he did.
It can make you crazy like it did to him, but its still a far more rewarding existence than just being a typical life averting normie.
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That's because he didn't follow the path of curing his ailment by constructing a delusion - personal philosophy
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Literally me
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Pretty much all canonized philosophical writings are difficult to understand. That doesn’t make your nonsensical babbling backed by 0 understanding worthwhile.
You could simply check his Turin letters and confront them to his previous writings. His insanity was suddent and its beginning is very clearly defined. When Nietzsche lost his mind he didn't merely write controversial texts, he was trying to send letters to the Pope and organize mass shootings (a kind of behaviour that is completely absent before late 1899, there is absolutely no continuity).
Im sure you would have noticed, had you actually bothered to reaf any of his texts
wasn't he at his sister's all his life after 1890? she also made people take pictures of him, a lot of the "The Nietzsche" pictures that we know were made when he was already insane and taken care of by his sister
Always thought it was cruel to bandy about the pictures of Nietzsche from the '90s when he was not well. Rudolf Steiner has some nice lines on meeting him near his death:
https://rudolfsteinerquotes.wordpress.com/2013/12/24/steiners-visit-to-friedrich-nietzsche/
>There he lay on a lounge enveloped in darkness, with his beautiful forehead-artist’s and thinker’s forehead in one. It was early afternoon. Those eyes which in their blindness yet revealed the soul, now merely mirrored a reflection of the surroundings which could find no longer any way to reach the soul. One stood there and Nietzsche knew it not. And yet one could have believed, looking upon that brow permeated by the spirit, that this was the expression of a soul which had all the forenoon long been shaping thoughts within, and which now would fain rest a while. An inner shudder which seized my soul may have signified that this also underwent a change in sympathy with the genius whose gaze was directed toward me and yet failed to rest upon me. The passivity of my gaze so long fixed won in return a comprehension of his own gaze: his longing always in vain to enable the soul-forces of the eye to work.
>And so there appeared before my soul the soul of Nietzsche, hovering above his head, boundless in its spiritual light; surrendered wholly to the spiritual worlds, longing after its environment but failing to discover it; and yet chained to the body, which would have to do with the soul only so long as the soul longed for this present world. Nietzsche’s soul was still there, but only from without could it hold to the body, that body which so long as the soul remained within it had offered resistance to the full unfolding of its light.
>I had, ere this, read the Nietzsche who had written; now I perceived the Nietzsche who bore within his body ideas drawn from widely extended spiritual regions – ideas which still sparkled in their beauty, even though they had lost on the way their primal illuminating powers. A soul which from previous earthly lives bore rich wealth of light, but which could not in this life cause all its light to shine. I had admired what Nietzsche wrote; but now I saw a luminous form behind that which I had admired.
A terrifying fate. To spend the last decade of your life in a continuously worse demented state as more and more of your brain dies. I would hope someone would be merciful and kill me immediately.
Mogged by conscience
the homeless are channeling Nietzsche more than anyone else these days
Explain please
Oh man he's literally me
Nowadays jesus or saint luke jeanne darc would be sent to psychiatric hospital,i wear my schizophrenia diagnosis like a badge of honor.
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>dude historical saints and prophets were suffering from modern mental illnesses
These illnesses were invented not discovered
Midwit detected
Can conform and I confirm, I carry a ST. name and they send me back into the psychiatric treches every once in a while. Nowadays what used to be prophets and saints are people who as stricly as possible adhere to -isms, 0 fun to be around but at least someone's having fun - as usually is the case with people who are rallying behind a cause with purpose.
schizophrenia literally did not exist until the 19th century. i'm not saying that is in "it's made up" or "it wasn't named/identified until the 19th century", i mean it did not exist then, and now it does. Jesus could not have been schizophrenic because the environmental conditions that cause schizophrenia did not yet exist
>the environmental conditions that cause schizophrenia
yes. only certain people are genetically disposed to schizophrenia, but they will NOT develop it if the environmental conditions for it aren't present
Are you comparing yourself to Jesus?
Actually its not me that compared myself to him,a christian i met in school said i was jesus.
Nietzsche sucked a horse wiener
I can’t really do much with Nietzsche. He is more an artist than a philosopher; he doesn’t have the crystal-clear understanding of Schopenhauer. Of course, I value Nietzsche as a genius. He writes possibly the most beautiful language that German literature has to offer us today, but he is not my guide.
His prose is beautiful, but why are his poems so shitty?
His music is also shitty. I think it's a lack of attunement to his emotions. It's funny how he cam have such a keen eye and yet be so blind at the same time. Wagner was the opposite; perfectly attuned to his emotions yet politically blind.
His music was mediocre because he was educated as an instrumentist, and not as a composer. Wagner considered him an excellent pianist, and he and Cosima would listen to him playing extensively. Had he practiced composition instead he might have done something good, but given the state of his education he could only be a dilettante when it came to composition.
>he doesn't feel his heart soar with joy when Prince Vogelfrei sings an amateurish song exhalting freedom with terrible metre and tortured metaphors
Sad!
This fact alone made me lose all respect for Nietzsche and his work. I just can't take it seriously.
Because he had a genetic disposition that attacked his brain?
Yes. How would I know if he wasn't already insane when he was writing his thoughts? I might as well stop and listen at the menhera homeless guy on the subway.
Ah you’ve never actually meaningfully read his work before
>How would I know if he wasn't already insane when he was writing his thoughts?
You can tell because his actual writing is already insane and non-sensical.
>pick up one of his books
>duuhhh principle identity is wrong because I can't find a thing with my eyes
>put one of his books down and read something else
you midwits are worse than brainlets
Honestly the fact that he is pretty hard to understand and comprehend makes it seem like schizo babble, how do you expect me to trust a man in that state and his writings? He just seems like a depressed hooker fricker that got rejected by his crush only to die alone sad and insane. Seems like a reasonable character to me.
What was his intentions when even wrote those books. He could have died a very rich man someone of his rhetorical ability.
Why does „trust“ even enter into the equation of anybody you read? This dependence on friend/foe dialectics before you can gain from a philosopher is bizarre and ironically a major focus of Nietzsche‘s work.
>Honestly the fact that he is pretty hard to understand and comprehend makes it seem like schizo babble
Have you considered maybe you are not intelligent enough to be the intended audience?
>Incoherent babble
>"Nuh-uh you're just not smart enough to understand it!"
You're just trying to stroke your own ego.
Einstein spent his final years coping beyond belief, he's a normal man like anyone.
I understand kant, schopenhaur, hegel and the such, but not Nietzsche. Nietzsche is simply all over the place and just seems like a emo venting his issues instead of actually understanding the world and how it works.
Because Nietzsche is the philosophy of not knowing. Nietzsche is about diving into the chaos and uncertaintly of life, and to embrace the richness of everything, both good and bad.
Nietzsche is not an idea, but more of a portal to showing you a world in which everything is richer and more meaningful, without putting everything into a neatly labled box like most other philosophers would do.
Nietzsche is not even in the same realm as those names you listed, he is like seeing the world in colour when you are used to seeing things in black and white. He is adding a whole new dimension to philosophy, and for that reason you would not be able to understand him without diving into life head first like he did.
It can make you crazy like it did to him, but its still a far more rewarding existence than just being a typical life averting normie.
That's because he didn't follow the path of curing his ailment by constructing a delusion - personal philosophy
Literally me
Pretty much all canonized philosophical writings are difficult to understand. That doesn’t make your nonsensical babbling backed by 0 understanding worthwhile.
You could simply check his Turin letters and confront them to his previous writings. His insanity was suddent and its beginning is very clearly defined. When Nietzsche lost his mind he didn't merely write controversial texts, he was trying to send letters to the Pope and organize mass shootings (a kind of behaviour that is completely absent before late 1899, there is absolutely no continuity).
Im sure you would have noticed, had you actually bothered to reaf any of his texts
you can see the scar where they lobotomized him
He was too powerful. They had to take him down.
And nothing of value was lost
Shouldn't have gone and gazed into that abyss
Literally lol'd reading this passage on the bus this afternoon
Kek! Gay!
Stop thinking about sex with men for a second.
When I found out the God they were worshipping was the donkey. . .oh man I laughed so hard.
>erecting
>gaily
>the worshipped and perfumed ass
Gross.
literally atheist teenager-tier. I don't know why anyone bothers with this hack
wasn't he at his sister's all his life after 1890? she also made people take pictures of him, a lot of the "The Nietzsche" pictures that we know were made when he was already insane and taken care of by his sister
he looks so comfy 🙂
Always thought it was cruel to bandy about the pictures of Nietzsche from the '90s when he was not well. Rudolf Steiner has some nice lines on meeting him near his death:
https://rudolfsteinerquotes.wordpress.com/2013/12/24/steiners-visit-to-friedrich-nietzsche/
>There he lay on a lounge enveloped in darkness, with his beautiful forehead-artist’s and thinker’s forehead in one. It was early afternoon. Those eyes which in their blindness yet revealed the soul, now merely mirrored a reflection of the surroundings which could find no longer any way to reach the soul. One stood there and Nietzsche knew it not. And yet one could have believed, looking upon that brow permeated by the spirit, that this was the expression of a soul which had all the forenoon long been shaping thoughts within, and which now would fain rest a while. An inner shudder which seized my soul may have signified that this also underwent a change in sympathy with the genius whose gaze was directed toward me and yet failed to rest upon me. The passivity of my gaze so long fixed won in return a comprehension of his own gaze: his longing always in vain to enable the soul-forces of the eye to work.
>And so there appeared before my soul the soul of Nietzsche, hovering above his head, boundless in its spiritual light; surrendered wholly to the spiritual worlds, longing after its environment but failing to discover it; and yet chained to the body, which would have to do with the soul only so long as the soul longed for this present world. Nietzsche’s soul was still there, but only from without could it hold to the body, that body which so long as the soul remained within it had offered resistance to the full unfolding of its light.
>I had, ere this, read the Nietzsche who had written; now I perceived the Nietzsche who bore within his body ideas drawn from widely extended spiritual regions – ideas which still sparkled in their beauty, even though they had lost on the way their primal illuminating powers. A soul which from previous earthly lives bore rich wealth of light, but which could not in this life cause all its light to shine. I had admired what Nietzsche wrote; but now I saw a luminous form behind that which I had admired.
>tfw you take a look at your larper "heirs" in the 21st century
He knew he was wrong about everything with regards to Christianity but knew he was right about everything regarding the future death of Europe
A terrifying fate. To spend the last decade of your life in a continuously worse demented state as more and more of your brain dies. I would hope someone would be merciful and kill me immediately.