>This exact attitude is why there will never be a year of the Linux Desktop
and that's a good thing...
what's wrong with capping at 0.5% marketshare? can you give me a single reason why I should give a shit about increasing this number?
don't like it? don't use it, as simple as, I don't understand why everything has to catter to normans and other senile boomers, who the frick cares, just use windows and go on with your life, why do you care about linux in the first place?
I still get filtered by Arch because of this, I'm so stupid that even the automated installer keeps fricking up for me. I'm the target audience for Manjaro ;_;
What does Fedora have going for it nowadays? I used it many years ago, but at one point they updated the installer and I had trouble getting a system with multiple operating systems going with it so I stopped messing with it.
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Works well, big community, well documented, and close ties to Red Hat so for better or worse (imo better) it's going to be quick to adopt new things (like Intels GPU sharing for VMs).
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Theres no real reason to use nixos when fedora silverblue exists
The icon is cool. It's made in such a way that it is the perfect distro to package software for the nix repo on. It solves a version control problem you almost certainly don't have.
Is there a reason to ditch arch over it?
How do get by without AUR, and also are 32bit versions of each package?
I'm trying to get lib32-gst-plugins-bad from AUR and It's making me want to kms
AUR is vastly overrated due to archlinux being a meme with all its "I use arch btw" users shilling stuff they don't know about. Every distro has community-driven repository and AUR was not the first. The main difference is that AUR is centralized while most distro use a decentralized model. Thus, instead of trusting John Doe and Joe Smith and install only the packages provided by them in their own personal repo which you still find hosted in the distro website, you trust infinite literally who who post their packages in the centralized community-driven repo. The only benefit of AUR is that it's kind of big, but that's also because it's much harder to quantify how many packages there are in Copr (fedora), debian unofficial repository and so on. But then again, many of those packages in AUR are not even up-to-date despite archlinux is anal about it. If not for its size, AUR is stupid and a very bad idea. It's KISS philosophy gone wrong.
Anyway. Nixpkgs is way bigger than arch repo + AUR (pic related) and technically speaking NixOS is source based (although it mostly feels binary based) so there should be no problem with 32 bits versions (ie., mostly anything is shipped both ways and for different architectures too). But then again I don't use 32bits software so I can't give you a direct feedback, so take my words with a grain of salt.
Pretty much the only reason I've using arch for many years is because I can get bleeding edge versions of a really small subset of packages
I want to have the lastest version of kde ASAP, the kernel I already compile it myself, don't really care about the rest
Is there a -unstable repo where I can get it, and how long does it take for newer versions to show up there?
thanks guys
>Is there a -unstable repo
Yes. >where I can get it
READ, Black person, READ.
https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/index.html#sec-upgrading >and how long does it take for newer versions to show up there?
Not very long at all, and if it isn't kept up to date enough for you, you can just clone the nixpkgs repo and update packages faster by yourself. Best part about doing that is if the build is successful, you can just submit a PR and be a hero, help everyone else keep their shit up to date, too. Contributing is *very* easy on NixOS.
>Is there a -unstable repo where I can get it, and how long does it take for newer versions to show up there?
There is an unstable branch, but if you want very bleeding edge stuff you can pick few packages from master (although it may trigger a compilation). See yourself the commit history https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/desktops/plasma-5 to figure out how frequent the updates are. Installing a bunch of packages from master, another bunch of them from unstable and others from stable is easy, as long as you know how to use the distro. That said, using NixOS is significantly harder than using archlinux and it requires time to learn it.
lmao these are not "fresh packages" 99% the shit on nix os is just the same package with a hundred clones with random garbage at the end. Only one of which runs.
>lmao these are not "fresh packages" 99% the shit on nix os is just the same package with a hundred clones with random garbage at the end. Only one of which runs.
this was what I noticed when I last looked at nix >more packages than arch!? >Oh, a bunch of different versions of each package counted separately, yawn
>Is there a reason to ditch arch over it?
Rollbacks, declarative configuration, flexibility... tons of reasons. >How do get by without AUR
You don't need it. >32bit versions of each package?
That would be impossible, not every software package has an 32-bit version available upstream. However, you can get the operating system itself in 32-bit, and see what else it'll let you install. Check search.nixos.org to see which architectures are available for each package you want to use.
watch 2x more nix threads because arch trannies finally will be able to instlal it
good. when I tried Nix it had such an autistic way to install everything I wondered how the frick anyone would use that piece of shit.
1. Partition and format drives, mount them under /mount
2. Run nix-generate-config.
3. Run nixos-install.
Yeah, I can see how that would filter out you archbabbies.
This exact attitude is why there will never be a year of the Linux Desktop
nixos is for advanced users and developers not moronic IQfyermin winbabbies, fedora is pretty good if you want a justwerks distro
>This exact attitude is why there will never be a year of the Linux Desktop
and that's a good thing...
what's wrong with capping at 0.5% marketshare? can you give me a single reason why I should give a shit about increasing this number?
don't like it? don't use it, as simple as, I don't understand why everything has to catter to normans and other senile boomers, who the frick cares, just use windows and go on with your life, why do you care about linux in the first place?
>want to change something
>reinstall the os because its autistic and can't be changed on the fly
just use silverblue at that point
nixos-rebuild switch
silverblue is a cheap copycat of nix but doesn't really work as the nix way is simply replaced with showing flatpack in every hole
*then figure out wtf is going on with all your configuration and how to make it work with 90% of the desktop you were previously using.
>archbabbies
nix is easier to install than arch though
I still get filtered by Arch because of this, I'm so stupid that even the automated installer keeps fricking up for me. I'm the target audience for Manjaro ;_;
>Manjaro
Never. Just get SUSE or Fedora.
What does Fedora have going for it nowadays? I used it many years ago, but at one point they updated the installer and I had trouble getting a system with multiple operating systems going with it so I stopped messing with it.
Works well, big community, well documented, and close ties to Red Hat so for better or worse (imo better) it's going to be quick to adopt new things (like Intels GPU sharing for VMs).
Theres no real reason to use nixos when fedora silverblue exists
>calamares
autists definitely never learn...
I use Nix, why is this supposed to be bad? technology is made to be convenient, not less. That's exactly why I use Nix.
>xfce is selected on the list
>details about plasma
wait what
Oh shit
hehe now that it can no more filter me i'm going to point out all of it's flaws
redpill me on nixos as a debian user
The icon is cool. It's made in such a way that it is the perfect distro to package software for the nix repo on. It solves a version control problem you almost certainly don't have.
No cirno, no bump.
Is there a reason to ditch arch over it?
How do get by without AUR, and also are 32bit versions of each package?
I'm trying to get lib32-gst-plugins-bad from AUR and It's making me want to kms
AUR is vastly overrated due to archlinux being a meme with all its "I use arch btw" users shilling stuff they don't know about. Every distro has community-driven repository and AUR was not the first. The main difference is that AUR is centralized while most distro use a decentralized model. Thus, instead of trusting John Doe and Joe Smith and install only the packages provided by them in their own personal repo which you still find hosted in the distro website, you trust infinite literally who who post their packages in the centralized community-driven repo. The only benefit of AUR is that it's kind of big, but that's also because it's much harder to quantify how many packages there are in Copr (fedora), debian unofficial repository and so on. But then again, many of those packages in AUR are not even up-to-date despite archlinux is anal about it. If not for its size, AUR is stupid and a very bad idea. It's KISS philosophy gone wrong.
Anyway. Nixpkgs is way bigger than arch repo + AUR (pic related) and technically speaking NixOS is source based (although it mostly feels binary based) so there should be no problem with 32 bits versions (ie., mostly anything is shipped both ways and for different architectures too). But then again I don't use 32bits software so I can't give you a direct feedback, so take my words with a grain of salt.
Pretty much the only reason I've using arch for many years is because I can get bleeding edge versions of a really small subset of packages
I want to have the lastest version of kde ASAP, the kernel I already compile it myself, don't really care about the rest
Is there a -unstable repo where I can get it, and how long does it take for newer versions to show up there?
thanks guys
>Is there a -unstable repo
Yes.
>where I can get it
READ, Black person, READ.
https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/index.html#sec-upgrading
>and how long does it take for newer versions to show up there?
Not very long at all, and if it isn't kept up to date enough for you, you can just clone the nixpkgs repo and update packages faster by yourself. Best part about doing that is if the build is successful, you can just submit a PR and be a hero, help everyone else keep their shit up to date, too. Contributing is *very* easy on NixOS.
>Is there a -unstable repo where I can get it, and how long does it take for newer versions to show up there?
There is an unstable branch, but if you want very bleeding edge stuff you can pick few packages from master (although it may trigger a compilation). See yourself the commit history https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/desktops/plasma-5 to figure out how frequent the updates are. Installing a bunch of packages from master, another bunch of them from unstable and others from stable is easy, as long as you know how to use the distro. That said, using NixOS is significantly harder than using archlinux and it requires time to learn it.
lmao these are not "fresh packages" 99% the shit on nix os is just the same package with a hundred clones with random garbage at the end. Only one of which runs.
Yet there are more updated packages on devuan unstable than on AUR.
>lmao these are not "fresh packages" 99% the shit on nix os is just the same package with a hundred clones with random garbage at the end. Only one of which runs.
this was what I noticed when I last looked at nix
>more packages than arch!?
>Oh, a bunch of different versions of each package counted separately, yawn
>Is there a reason to ditch arch over it?
Rollbacks, declarative configuration, flexibility... tons of reasons.
>How do get by without AUR
You don't need it.
>32bit versions of each package?
That would be impossible, not every software package has an 32-bit version available upstream. However, you can get the operating system itself in 32-bit, and see what else it'll let you install. Check search.nixos.org to see which architectures are available for each package you want to use.
What's the problem exactly?
Frick NigsOs. Arch works just fine.
What changes that now NixOS has a graphical installer?
It may become more widely used
Hahaha they should make one for arch now, maybe morons will stop saying "I uSe ArCh bTw" after barely installing it with some shitty youtube tutorial.