>No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.
Blackpills are relative but after using a cane and being unable to run the Socrates quote is brutal. /fitlit/ is the only path to true happiness and I can't do half of it. Everything just feels like surrogate activities.
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IQfy and /fitlit/ are fitness without purpose, the beauty and strength of the body can not be seen removed from purpose.
Care to elaborate?
What IQfycels would never get in their head, is that any physical activity is first and for most mental activity. Incapability to keep up regular exercises and excel in your preffered activity is mostly a mental impotence, impotence of thought.
T. Kant
This
pic related
This is the best book ever written about tigers
Yes! I have it in hardcover, it is an excellent book!
yiff in hell
fit/lit/biz synthesis is my goal
So you want to be a repulsive person
Anon only morons pay taxes.
Literally me(someday)
literally do not care
To put it into IQfy terms, it is purple prose, a flawed ideal which serves no purpose beyond ego. Train your body to a purpose, make it the best it can be at doing what it needs to do not some ideal.
Masturbation is masturbation, does not mater if it is intellectual or physical. Anything can be a mental activity, fetishism is turning sex into a mental activity does that make furies better than those that see sex as emotional or physical or a means of procreation? You are reciting mantras without ever considering them.
Let's meditate
In order to make the body stronger, it needs to be exercised
In order to make the mind stronger, it needs to be made still
You should re-upload your image, Anon. It’s stuck in the loading circle.
>In order to make the mind stronger, it needs to be made still
sure, keep trying to strengthen your mind by not using it, homosexual. anyone who subscribes to the thought of decrepit eastern wretches are so far in the deep end they would be better off simply drowning, which at this point, is inevitable
On the whole, unconvincing.
Try again.
Physical training is for slaves, Socrates sounds like your cringe modern day self "improver".
Post physique.
Your obese boomer CEO is more of a man than you will ever be bodybuilder cuck.
Strength training is like the opposite of slave behavior, read the two cultures
>grueling over with repetitive menial tasks isn't slave labor
Is that how you cope with being a slave?
the greeks started the olympics dude. it's based on military training not manual labor you bozo.
>military training
This homosexual shit
has little to do with function. It's just a homosexual worship of the body.
>Musk
Based technophile, mechanized, atomized israelite.
dude just get in shape god it's not that hard
Getting in shape (something anyone can do if they don't eat shitty processed foods and go on regular walks) =/= Looking like something straight out of bara porn
It can.
I just don't know why f*ggots pretend this is a body type that should be desirable to everyone.
Why are you mad?
no taste
checked
Post bulges anon~
but tis a blue board nonny
But animal men are hot! I want to smell their body! Sweaty musky body and lick their armpits and their abs! I want to lick their wieners and drink their cum! I want to kiss them on their mouths and suck their tongue and lick their fangs! I want to smell them!
yiff in hell furhomosexual
lewd
he is cute
the greeks didn't use anabolic steroids dude
Physique is a reflection of behavior
What kind of behavior does turgid bloated muscles represent to you?
This dude fricks
>slave to his mechanized, artificially instilled urbanite impulses
Lol okay.
Urbanites
>the state is making you horny!
You clearly have issues and should probably stop posting
>the state wants to corrode your social will by encouraging you to build an identity around useless surrogate activities (aka hobbyism) such as bodybuilding
ftfy
>guy gets sentenced to life in prison and doesn't get huge lifting every day in the yard
he really was trans wasn't he
I swear to God I saw some documentary back in the day that had some prison footage of his trooning out, apparently he dabbled.
You don't need good cardio for bara physique OP
submissiveness
post BMI
NTA but such responses would be more effective if you provided proof of not being a fat frick or a muscle bound moron.
I'm not the one writing homosexually
But you are a gay.
It's pride month
No, he's not even a human being. He's dead inside.
gay. Why would you want to see a man's body
You answered your own question right before asking it.
Shut up you fat homosexual
Greeks trained their bodies precisely to avoid becoming slaves, dumbass.
Ah yes, Socrates the famous soldier
Are you memeing or serious? He was a famous soldier in the Peloponnesian war. Perhaps the best on the Athenian side.
Source: your ass
https://donaldrobertson.name/2017/01/03/socrates-the-soldier/
Honestly, unironically and seriously have a nice day.
If he actually was a soldier it's irrelevant
Goalpost status: Moved
moron status: Outed
Your neovegana: dilating
Sure thing slavie
Athenian citizens had to serve in the army and in the chorus, you had to be able to fight and be able to dance.
That sounds like a bloated schedule
Video games weren't very good back then
Socrates was a war hero running an officer training academy.
Anon resistance training, cardio, and flexibility are basic hygeine the same as bathing or brushing your teeth and flossing. Those that do not do it are absolutely fricking disgusting.
What? How is exercise an hygiene activity?, it can only get you dirtier and smellier.
It prevents decay of mobility, strength, and general health. It's an act against entropy in the same way brushing teeth is. Toothless and fat people and old people with poor posture due to lack of maintenance are all off putting in the same way.
Just because it's an act against entropy doesn't mean it's hygienic
I do not like gays, and do not like furries, both exhibiting traits like lack of self critique, no conscious restraint or lacking pursuit of higher values and very limited worldview relegated to merely perceiving other people and sexuality at it's core.
It's a pathetic limitation of the human psyche and I think you should delete your thread now and go look into a mirror for the next 30 minutes.
It causes inadvertent hygene solely by it's pursuit, because of which your body is both easier to maintain and needs less maintenance so you are not only wrong but shortsighted to reject training your body.
Also aesthetics are important, no human is complete without simple non-erotic beauty his own sculpted vessel can impose.
>I do not like gays ... exhibiting traits like lack of self critique, no conscious restraint or lacking pursuit of higher values and very limited worldview relegated to merely perceiving other people and sexuality at it's core.
Need I remind you that Socrates was a homosexual!
Socrates died of internal desyntery and at his deathbed he reflected upon his life and declared homosexuality a disease so I don't see your point.
Also a single cause does not make for good arguement. Even if he was acutely a gay philosopher whose main motif was pursuit of homohomosexualry then he is thwarted by seneca, plato, aristotle, myron and even the fricking b***h ass suicide-ass saphona.
major L for you
>Socrates died of internal desyntery
From poisoning, not anal sex. Deranged implication.
>at his deathbed he reflected upon his life and declared homosexuality a disease
I must have missed that part of the Phaedo.
>Also a single cause does not make for good arguement.
Another homosexually inclined philosopher from antiquity is Zeno of Citium, the founder of stoicism. Plato, though notably averse to same-sex copulation, was in all likelihood attracted to males (his ancient biographers certainly assumed so). He stringently critiques sodomy in the Laws, but gives pride of place to chaste same-sex eros in the Phaedrus. People equate this with blanket 'homophobia' because they cannot think of homosexuality as anything but mere sexuality. But it is an entire romantic and erotic outlook. It is rather like assuming that St. Paul detests men who are attracted to women, because he has severe views about heterosexual lust.
>gay philosopher
I can think of a few others. Francis Bacon, George Santayana, Ludwig Wittgenstein. The achievements of homosexuals are more notable in poetry and drama and the like.
>major L for you
zoomer internet brainrot
>phaedo
Im not talking about the phaedo because its an incomplete hackjob of censorship upon a monument of western assumptious shit and asian propaganda but his letters is where it's at, preserved on clay tablets were his last will in which he wrote, and IM FRICKING CITING
>"woes of (my) youth have revealed themselves to me. Penchance is not detrimental to the living but mine towards another (man) proven to be most debilitating and harmful"
Zeno was a hack, Horatio was the real deal, I don't know why you homies praise stoicism as some fricking atheist holy grail.
PLATO WAS A FRICKING WRESTLER AND HE APPRECIATED HUMAN BODY YOU COOMER
>homosexuality is not sexuality
it fricking is you daft headed wanker, it's literaly single-word-descriptor for who do you like to have sex with, anything else is different forms of love, but homosexuality is a direct reference to sexuality and in opposition to heterosexuality because it focuses on same gender sex, you goddamn imbecile.
>achievements of homosexuals are more notable in drama
which is exactly what they fricking cause. Not to mention the fact that they are a rare minority of unimportant people who garnered reputation through virtue signalling and acting like defenders of some sort of victimhood.
cope, seethe, touch grass, have sex, dilate, diverge, yikes, oof, etc etc etc.
Roma Iocuta causa finita', go eat a dick if you are so eager, but out of my sight. I hope my writings forever intoxicate your mind and remain in there rent free, like brainbugs.
>Im not talking about the phaedo because its an incomplete hackjob of censorship upon a monument of western assumptious shit and asian propaganda
what?
>his letters is where it's at, preserved on clay tablets were his last will
This is the first I'm hearing of any surviving written text by Socrates. I googled "Socrates clay tablets" and couldn't find anything. Can you give me a source?
>Zeno was a hack, Horatio was the real deal
Who the frick is Horatio?
>atheist holy grail
I have my own problems with stoicism, but I'm not a terminally online moron who dismisses entire branches of philosophy based off memes. Also your comment doesn't make any sense. Stoicism was explicitly theistic. That's partly why it was received so well by Christians.
>PLATO WAS A FRICKING WRESTLER AND HE APPRECIATED HUMAN BODY YOU COOMER
In the Phaedrus Plato writes that two male lovers joined together are superior to generals, kings, priests, etc. The first best are those who don't have sex, the next best are those who give in occasionally. His ancient biographers attribute male love poetry to him. It's worth noting that he never married and never had children. I should note that I am not claiming emphatically that Plato was homosexual, just that it seems probable, on the weight of the evidence, because of the intensity of his attention on the subject, and the general absence of heterosexual love in his works.
>homosexuality is a direct reference to sexuality and in opposition to heterosexuality because it focuses on same gender sex, you goddamn imbecile.
Yes, but sexuality influences more than just our reproductive behaviour. It determines who we fall in love with in a romantic (erotic) sense. When you feel butterflies in your stomach because you see a pretty girl, that is because you are heterosexual.
I would encourage you to do some self-reflection. You seem to have a troubled relationship with truth, and argue (and think) primarily with your passions. It is clear you haven't read very much of the classics. Plato's Socratic dialogues would be a good start. Remember not to dismiss them because Plato says something that seems "moronic" by modern standards. They are demonstrative, not dogmatic. They are meant to encourage you to think for yourself. In time, you should be able to develop the classical virtues of patience, temperance, reason, and equanimity. I believe in you. If you ever begin to doubt yourself, just look at the pic I've attached.
phaedo in official sources and most avilable form was censored heavily by those who translated it.
>who horatio
Quintus Horatius Flaccus
>stoicism
It is innately atheist but closer to absurdism than nihilism. It focuses innately on things that exist within your immediate physical vicinity and helps you build up not fortitude but acceptance of the event that are unfolding to make you less miserable, those values are shared with absurdism which is itself a variation from nihilism, estabilished by Albert Camus. I won't go too deep into that but be aware.
>plato phaedus
first of all, see point 1. second of all, a man can appreciate any faucet of life so long as he is content with himself, this Plato taught, and even if he wrote as you said, he displayed his beliefs more than innate homosexuality. Plato was pure, stalwart and overall a good bloke, but he wrote about unusual things (why would you write about normal love if it was omnipresent) so he chose those atypical erotic relationships as a vessel for his appraisal of the man's body. He does not directly state "two younglings are greater than kings because they frick" but he wrote directly "the monument of male bodies in (it's) grandeosity overcomes both the splendor of kings and etherity of word, (displaying) subtle beauty of anatomy"
>homosexuality
hetero- sexual. before vowels heter-, word-forming element meaning "other, different," from Greek heteros "the other (of two), another, different; second; other than usual." It is a compound; the first element means "one, at one, together,"
what this means is that heterosexual directly mentions sex as it's destined receiver.
Homosexual is a word in similar wain, but ephasizing on "sameness" in loose translation from greek. Therefore homosexuality refers directly to wanting to frick other men. I rest my case, upon your face like a spittle.
What you try to push as homosexuality is simply appreciation of other living beings and aromantic love.
I hugged men who I've cherished and walked hand in hand with brothers but I never wanted to have sex with them which homosexuality revolves around.
I have virtues, but they are wasted online, so I choose the most blunt way possible to display my opinions, this you should notice.
>It is innately atheist but closer to absurdism than nihilism. It focuses innately on things that exist within your immediate physical vicinity and helps you build up not fortitude but acceptance of the event that are unfolding to make you less miserable, those values are shared with absurdism which is itself a variation from nihilism, estabilished by Albert Camus. I won't go too deep into that but be aware.
Dunning-Kruger. Apart from this warped genealogy (evidence of your limited engagement with philosophy, given that your only frame of reference for these ideas is babby's first philosophical system) the idea that stoicism is "innately atheist" is contradicted by all of the available evidence.
>Quintus Horatius Flaccus
He was a poet, not a philosopher. He also wrote homoerotic poetry (consider Ode 4.10)
>(why would you write about normal love if it was omnipresent) so he chose those atypical erotic relationships as a vessel for his appraisal of the man's body.
Plato's discussions of pederasty have nothing to do with the "male body". They are actually more about the soul. Plato barely writes about the body at all. OP's quote is from one of Xenophon's Socratic dialogues, not Plato's.
>He does not directly state "two younglings are greater than kings because they frick"
I didn't say he said this. I said that he writes that two males who are romantically involved are superior to kings. He prefers if they do not have sex. Here is one relevant quote (248-9)
-- "The one which saw most [of the divine forms] will become a lover of wisdom or of beauty, or devoted to the Muses and to love, the second in the seed of a law-abiding king, or someone fit for generalship and ruling; the third in that of a man who devotes himself to the affairs of the city ... the fourth, in that of an exercise-loving trainer in the gymnasium, or of someone who will be concerned with healing of the body; the fifth will have the life of a seer or of an expert in some mystic rites; for the sixth, the fitting life will be that of a poet or some other life from among thjose concerned with imitation; for the seventh that of a craftsman or a farmer; for the eighth that of a sophist or demagogue; for the ninth that of a tyrant. Among all these kinds of life, the man who lives justly receives a better portion ... For each soul only returns to the place from which it has come after ten thousand years; for it does not become winged before then, except for that of the man who has lived the philosophical life without guile or has united his love for his boy with philosophy"
>I rest my case, upon your face like a spittle.
ESL
>What you try to push as homosexuality is simply appreciation of other living beings and aromantic love.
No I haven't. I am restricting my discussion to romantic/erotic couplings between males. Aristotle, Cicero and Augustine wrote extensively on male friendship (philia). I am talking about Plato's writings on male romance (eros).
I simply don't know the extent of your knowledge, so I assume you know nothing, thus refer to the most basic, easily searchable online ideas so we can argue for longer.
>Horatio
I didn't say he didn't write anything suspicious, I said that horatianism is better than stoicism
>Plato
by greek standards, external and internal value should reflect one another.
Also pederasty involves usually an older man, teaching a younger body how to live life appropriately. Love in greek has so many meanings that simply using the word "love" as a replacement for the greek variants is butchering the meaning. There are 11 types of love in greek as far as I remember and Plato did state that "united his love for his boy with philosophy" was not homosexual but pure, meaning love as in "penchant for meeting" if you want to dabble in direct translation.
This has become most tiring, can you stop confusing pederasty which was a mentoring practice with actual homoerotic intent? Most of people pushing ancient greece either use that arguement or they just say that "le greeks" mentioned gay love, therefore they were homosexuals, completely missing the errs of translation to english.
God fricking damnit now I hate the english even more for being such colossal homosexuals without appreciation for detail, that bridge in britain should have killed more people.
>Also pederasty involves usually an older man, teaching a younger body how to live life appropriately. Love in greek has so many meanings that simply using the word "love" as a replacement for the greek variants is butchering the meaning. There are 11 types of love in greek as far as I remember and Plato did state that "united his love for his boy with philosophy" was not homosexual but pure, meaning love as in "penchant for meeting" if you want to dabble in direct translation.
Yes except the word being translated as 'love' is 'eros'. Rather unambiguous, no?
>This has become most tiring, can you stop confusing pederasty which was a mentoring practice with actual homoerotic intent? Most of people pushing ancient greece either use that arguement or they just say that "le greeks" mentioned gay love, therefore they were homosexuals, completely missing the errs of translation to english.
pic related
>original text is eros
Eros is a concept in ancient Greek philosophy referring to sensual or passionate love, from which the term erotic is derived. English sub-word "erotic" sprung from it, but eros simply states how "big" the love was for them when united in philosophy. Again you are modernizing ancient way of speaking to fit your worldview.
>picrel
upscale or I'm not reading your ant shit.
>Eros is a concept in ancient Greek philosophy referring to sensual or passionate love, from which the term erotic is derived. English sub-word "erotic" sprung from it, but eros simply states how "big" the love was for them when united in philosophy. Again you are modernizing ancient way of speaking to fit your worldview.
The word eros predates Greek philosophy. In most cases it refers to romantic and sexual love (it is the customary word for romantic feelings between men and women, and the Greeks never describe parents having 'eros' for their children, no matter how intense the parental affection). It is used this way by Plato in his discussions of pederasty. The lover is besotted by the sight of the beloved. He is infatuated. He is driven mad. He is sexually tempted. The first half of the dialogue is even taken up with a debate about whether boys should give sexual favours to lovers or to non-lovers. Pederasty was principally a sexual institution. The other Athenians were surprised by Socrates' refusal to accept 'gratification' from Alcibiades
>It causes inadvertent hygene solely by it's pursuit, because of which your body is both easier to maintain and needs less maintenance
This is the first time I'm seeing exercise getting called hygiene, and you are doing so just for the sake of being contrarian.
It prevents diseases and breakdown which means it's hygenic. And people who cannot touch their toes or do a pullup are absolutely fricking revolting.
See
again
Fat and out of shape people are disgustingly filthy internally.
You picked the broadest definition that convenienently fits your argument, we get it.
I literally just googled hygeine. It's related to public health which is what physical fitness is a part of.
>I literally just googled hygeine
I did the same thing too, no mension of exercise nor allusion to it.
>It's related to public health which is what physical fitness is a part of.
Headcannon
Google Typhoid Mary and head down the objective cannon of public health history
No
Ok fat moron
It's called a shower stinky
>shower is exercise
It probably is for your ass
Anon stop projecting. I do it everyday, some times twice. Your strawman won't work.
Mom doesn't count 😉
What?
Perhaps you could accept that you are not an Ancient Greek and your culture values things other the mere body.
Uh…is pic related an example?
Yes, anon, lift hard enough and you can become a bara tiger like me
This is a true secret kept from normies.
>broke: Mishima killed himself because Japan was lost to the west forever
>woke: Mishima killed himself because he could never activate the dimensional merge and become his sona, Yukio the Lion Demon, even after lifting his entire life and storming the army building
Can someone source me the quote? Which text exactly?
I want a big burly animal man with an animal wiener to frick me in my ass and bite me and rip my flesh and kiss me with his big slobnering toothy mouth and him to cum in my ass infecting me with the furry virus so I can be like him <3
lam-chan is so cute!
he’s a sub btw.
His pecs are so big they look like boobies…
Furgays get the rope. That's Xenophon's Socrates but still good principle to live by.
Again, furgays need be executed.
i like anthros
how to I escape being a muscletwink and turn into a hot bara
Roids HGH insulin and 5000 kcal daily diet minimum.
>Raging homosexual
>Reading Ted
Checks out
I'm morally obligated to become a professional physical trainer?
>SOCRATES: I saw inside his cloak and caught fire, and could possess myself no longer; and I thought none was so wise in love-matters as Cydias, who in speaking of a beautiful boy recommends someone to "beware of coming as a fawn before the lion, and being seized as his portion of flesh"; for I too felt I had fallen a prey to some such creature.
—Charmides 155d
>COMPANION: Where do you come from, Socrates? And yet I need hardly ask the question, for I know that you have been in chase of the fair Alcibiades. I saw him the day before yesterday; and he had got a beard like a man,–and he is a man, as I may tell you in your ear. But I thought that he was still very charming.
>SOCRATES: What of his beard? Are you not of Homer’s opinion, who says ’Youth is most charming when the beard first appears’? And that is now the charm of Alcibiades.
—Protagoras 309a
um,. bros..?
It's well know Sokrates (at least according to Plato) was a pedo but didn't act on his desire.
Which translation of Musashi's Book of Five Rings is generally the best? I've heard good things about Alexander Bennett's.
>No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training.
So every man must be a professional physical trainer? That's pretty fricking stupid.
In order to ace, accordingly encapacitate.
People don't understand the meaning of the quote. It's not meant to be just training for no reason. It's to fight wars. Aka functional aesthetics.
Worthless homosexual jannies
If the reeks were so gay and cool with it then why do you always have to read between the lines of vague innuendos?
Like just write down Socrates made out with boys.
>If the reeks were so gay and cool with it then why do you always have to read between the lines of vague innuendos?
>No, pleasure was the mediator even of their friendship. At any rate, when Achilles was lamenting the death of Patroclus, his unrestrained feelings made him burst out with the truth and say "The converse of our thighs my tears do mourn with duteous piety."
Lucian, Amores 54
>Every dumb animal only screws. But we reasoning men have this over other animals, we have discovered butt-fricking. But those who conquer women, they have nothing over dumb animals.
Strato, AP 12.245
>Heavens above! the wide-assed are the vast majority.
Aristophanes, The Clouds
>If a beautiful boy doesn’t give his ass to be fricked, may he not get a frick when he falls in love with a beautiful girl.
Greek graffito from Stabiae
>Heraclitus was beautiful, when he once was. But now, past his youth, a screen of hide declares war on those who would mount from behind.
Meleager, AP 12.33
>Men who are sliced from the wholly male original seek out males, and being slices of the male, while they are still boys they feel affection for men and take pleasure in lying beside or entwined with them. In youth and young manhood this sort of male is the best because he is by nature the most manly. Some people say such males are without shame, but that is not true. They do what they do not out of shamelessness but out of confidence, courage and manliness, and they embrace that which is like themselves. And there is good evidence for this in the fact that only males of this type, when they are grown up, prove to be the real men in politics.
Aristophanes, Symposium, 191e-192c
>Lucian, Amores 54
Achilles was a womanizer and half the story is about him revolting for net getting a girl he wanted. Patroclus was an old man, keep dreaming queen but you will NEVER have them. .
>Strato, AP 12.245
Ok but Strato was a pedo groomer.
>Aristophanes, The Clouds
This quote doesnt even mean anything gay also Aristophanes was a shitposter
>Greek graffito from Stabiae
Wee lowlife degenerates were grooming kids
>Meleager, AP 12.33
Fake translation
>Aristophanes, Symposium, 191e-192c
"prove to be the real men in politics" is the punchline, again Aristophanes was a comedian.
There is NO gay shit in Greek mythology, ZERO gay shit in their legends, its ALL about men lusting for women, Alexander the Great was a known womanizer and there is NO famous Greek person known to be a pederast except I guess Socrates who was forced to drink poison for it.
>There is NO gay shit in Greek mythology, ZERO gay shit in their legends, its ALL about men lusting for women
>Orpheus had fled the love of women, either because it had not gone well for him, or perhaps he’d taken a vow... Orpheus first taught the Thracians to love instead tender boys
Ovid, Metamorphoses 10
>Ganymedes that was born the fairest of mortal men; wherefore the gods caught him up on high to be cupbearer to Zeus by reason of his beauty
Homer, Iliad 20.230
>The king of all the Gods once burned with love for Ganymede of Phrygia. He found a shape more pleasing even than his own.
Ovid, Metamorphoses 10
>Boy-love is a delight, since even the son of Cronus, king of the gods, once came to love Ganymede, and seizing him, brought him up to Olympus and made him eternal in the lovely flower of boyhood.
Theognis 1345-8
>Sophocles in Women of Colchis said of Ganymede that he "lit the fire of tyrant Zeus with his thighs"
Athenaeus 13.602
>. . . the fountain of that stream which Zeus, when he was in love with Ganymede, called “desire” flows copiously upon the lover
Plato, Phaedrus 255c
>We are not the first mortals to see beauty in what is beautiful. No, even Amphitryon's bronze-hearted son [Hercules], who defeated the savage Nemean lion, loved a boy—charming Hylas, whose hair hung down in curls. And like a father with a dear son he taught him all the things which had made him a mighty man, and famous.
Theocritus, Idyll XIII
>It would be a task too great to enumerate the amours of Hercules; but among the rest, Iolaus is honored and adored to this day by many, because he is thought to have been the darling of that hero; and upon his tomb it is that lovers plight their troths and make reciprocal vows of their affection.
Plutarch, Amatorius 17
>Those gods who did not refrain from the abuse of males as disgraceful, but who practised even this as seemly. For instance, Jupiter himself was in love with Ganymede: Poseidon with Pelops; Apollo with Cinyras, Zacyinthus, Hyacinthus, Phorbas, Hylas, Admetus, Cyparissus, Amyclas, Troilus, Branchus the Tymnæan, Parus the Potnian, Orpheus; Dionysus with Laonis, Ampelus, Hymenæus, Hermaphrodites, Achilles; Asclepius with Hippolytus, and Hephæstus with Peleus; Pan with Daphnis; Hermes with Perseus, Chrysas, Theseus, Odrysus; Hercules with Abderus, Dryops, Jocastus, Philoctetes, Hylas, Polyphemus, Hæmon, Chonus, Eurystheus.
Pseudo-Clement, The Clementine Homilies, Homily V
>I shall speak first about Homer, whom we rank among the oldest and wisest of the poets. He mentions Patroklos and Achilles in many places, but he keeps their erotic love hidden and the proper name of their friendship, thinking that the exceptional extent of their affection made things clear to the educated members of his audience.
Aeschines, Against Timarchos 142
Yawn every time the same dumb quotes, get some new material homosexual
see
So.. you're not gonna address the quotes?
>there is NO famous Greek person known to be a pederast