Reading seriously and diligently will help you maximize your intellectual potential, whatever it may be. Before reading, you will be far below that potential in all likelihood.
It needs an actual proper education necessary to achieving actual goals. Public school is good for people who become realtors or tradesmen or policemen because those types of people were never going to be anything really important anyways. Much of my anger towards my parents was because of them turning away those people who came to my preschool when I was four because of how well I had done with the hooked on phonics people. I hate them for that more than the actual overtly absuive aspects.
unless you're IQ is one of a moron, you're okay. yet it might be a tremendously useful piece of information if we ever manage to ascertain ambition and willingness. if one knows how ambitious and willing to do things and what is IQ is, things will become... interesting.
It actually does. IQ is just a test, you can literally study for them. A part of IQ tests is vocabulary and ability to recall which is directly applicable to reading. Not to mention all that you can learn from reading. Stupid frog poster.
reading does usually make people smarter, but it doesnt raise your iq. two different concept anon.
i just want to be able to think abstractly and critically. im so fricking bad at it. its so hard for me to look at a problem from a different angle. i just dont have it in me. sigh...
improvement of what, 1 iq point? i see it even in the simplest things like IQfy posts or reddit/youtube comments. i can tell who has creativity and who doesnt. me? i always make the same stupid comments can never think of anything different or clever to say.
8 months ago
Anonymous
how old r u?
please dont berate urself in any case. u r a fren
8 months ago
Anonymous
How old are you?
8 months ago
Anonymous
34
8 months ago
Anonymous
if you get a sense of frustration from "this", from reading books and discussing them on IQfy, try something else.
there are many things other then reading and writing, other then thinking of clever things to say, like sport, music, dancing, cooking ...
yes anon please be patient and dont be discouraged. you will find self fulfillment and happiness no matter what that happiness is.
im lower caps anon who hates marlowe anon in the goethe thread. i may have attacked u on this board in the past, please forgive me. if ppl act angry at u, take it in stride and protect ur dignity and prepare urself for helping the next person who warrants it.
Just do it more.
do you think actual geniuses just popped out of their mothers with a PhD?
the outliers were lucky in coming up with a new idea and often had parents to squander on the project.
Everyone else studied for all of their lives to become masters.
The brain also needs stimulus to be in its top shape; it's like sayng you can't deadlift the amount a champion does while being skinny fat.
whatever age u r its never too old to learn the basics.
a short insightful book is Pieper's Leisure: The Basis of Culture. i highly recommend it for its penetration for explaining the importance of the capacity for contemplation and its warning against misusing time.
me and the other anon (probably) asked out of interest and for ur benefit.
again, its improper to look down on people who have no real control of their biological limitations, and anyone who mistreats u on that basis is wrong for doing so. just persevere and and accept whatever the end result is. remember to help others as u can.
also the op pic was distressing to see, which is why i responded this way and not in the irate manner i usu do. op i remind u sincerely, please dont do anything resembling that.
What if I told you there are books that help you increase your mental faculties? You don't have to limit yourself by your current circumstances, rise above them instead.
You're welcome. Forgot to say that wisdom is more important than intelligence. There are high IQ individuals that don't possess wisdom and low IQ individuals that have it. The archetype of the 'mad and evil genius' you see in books and movies is a great example of being a highly intelligent fool.
No, it can >Godel Escher Bach >Thinking Fast and Slow >There was another book, one on numbers, but I forgot it lol
Anyhow, there are tons of books that make you think harder, thus making you smarter once you conquer it's presented ideas.
Yes, both I'd say.
If you go deep enough in linguistics it literally is math (or equivalent to it), and classics almost always have an angle to stretch your brain - whether by forcing you to learn new vocabulary or to consider new ideas you hadn't before.
The brain is basically a muscle. Sure, the ability to learn (neuroplasticity) typically decreases with age - but it never goes away completely.
You can always improve with conscious effort, even if you were a 70 yo man.
Although at that age your priorities may shift anyway - you don't have to be very "smart" to enjoy life, after all. But I do think learning is enjoyable in and of itself.
Anyway, thank you for listening to me ramble!
thanks for the comment. often I feel like I am "missing out" by not studying math (and thus becoming more intelligent over all). So your comment is a reassurance.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's my pleasure! I've felt a similar way before too, but eventually I learned to not let it weigh me down. Never be too disheartened by what you "might have" missed out on - it's never as great a loss as we assume in the moment.
tldr: focus on something you want to solve for a bit. then stop, and let your "diffuse mode" in the background work on it. This trick doesn't even have to do with numbers, and I don't know why it took 300 pages to say that
You may not get smarter, but at least you're more knowledgeable than when you first started.
Compensate your IQ with just a general or even specific understanding of things by absorbing information. It may not be a complete replacement, but it's better than nothing and you still come out with some sort of betterment.
So?
I was told that reading made you smarter which is a lie so why am I reading?
reading does usually make people smarter, but it doesnt raise your iq. two different concept anon.
Reading seriously and diligently will help you maximize your intellectual potential, whatever it may be. Before reading, you will be far below that potential in all likelihood.
IQ doesnt buy you anything
Yea but I want to be smart and witty and creative. Hell I'm not even good looking. God really hates me
Neither does money.
It needs an actual proper education necessary to achieving actual goals. Public school is good for people who become realtors or tradesmen or policemen because those types of people were never going to be anything really important anyways. Much of my anger towards my parents was because of them turning away those people who came to my preschool when I was four because of how well I had done with the hooked on phonics people. I hate them for that more than the actual overtly absuive aspects.
lol what are you talking about?
how could hooked on phonics people have improved your standing in life?
take you in and educate you?
>i hate my parents for not letting me become isolated from my peers and have enormous amounts of pressure heaped on me from a young age
unless you're IQ is one of a moron, you're okay. yet it might be a tremendously useful piece of information if we ever manage to ascertain ambition and willingness. if one knows how ambitious and willing to do things and what is IQ is, things will become... interesting.
It actually does. IQ is just a test, you can literally study for them. A part of IQ tests is vocabulary and ability to recall which is directly applicable to reading. Not to mention all that you can learn from reading. Stupid frog poster.
i just want to be able to think abstractly and critically. im so fricking bad at it. its so hard for me to look at a problem from a different angle. i just dont have it in me. sigh...
You will improve by reading and practicing these things
improvement of what, 1 iq point? i see it even in the simplest things like IQfy posts or reddit/youtube comments. i can tell who has creativity and who doesnt. me? i always make the same stupid comments can never think of anything different or clever to say.
how old r u?
please dont berate urself in any case. u r a fren
How old are you?
34
if you get a sense of frustration from "this", from reading books and discussing them on IQfy, try something else.
there are many things other then reading and writing, other then thinking of clever things to say, like sport, music, dancing, cooking ...
yes anon please be patient and dont be discouraged. you will find self fulfillment and happiness no matter what that happiness is.
im lower caps anon who hates marlowe anon in the goethe thread. i may have attacked u on this board in the past, please forgive me. if ppl act angry at u, take it in stride and protect ur dignity and prepare urself for helping the next person who warrants it.
Just do it more.
do you think actual geniuses just popped out of their mothers with a PhD?
the outliers were lucky in coming up with a new idea and often had parents to squander on the project.
Everyone else studied for all of their lives to become masters.
The brain also needs stimulus to be in its top shape; it's like sayng you can't deadlift the amount a champion does while being skinny fat.
whatever age u r its never too old to learn the basics.
a short insightful book is Pieper's Leisure: The Basis of Culture. i highly recommend it for its penetration for explaining the importance of the capacity for contemplation and its warning against misusing time.
me and the other anon (probably) asked out of interest and for ur benefit.
again, its improper to look down on people who have no real control of their biological limitations, and anyone who mistreats u on that basis is wrong for doing so. just persevere and and accept whatever the end result is. remember to help others as u can.
It's about the thinking fren. Wisdom is not the accumulation of facts. Increase your understanding and leave the calculations to wet robots.
also the op pic was distressing to see, which is why i responded this way and not in the irate manner i usu do. op i remind u sincerely, please dont do anything resembling that.
What if I told you there are books that help you increase your mental faculties? You don't have to limit yourself by your current circumstances, rise above them instead.
Oh nice thanks
I try to be nice sometimes but they know their idiots anyways. No need to sugarcoat it.
You're welcome. Forgot to say that wisdom is more important than intelligence. There are high IQ individuals that don't possess wisdom and low IQ individuals that have it. The archetype of the 'mad and evil genius' you see in books and movies is a great example of being a highly intelligent fool.
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Don't get so caught up with IQ.
No, it can
>Godel Escher Bach
>Thinking Fast and Slow
>There was another book, one on numbers, but I forgot it lol
Anyhow, there are tons of books that make you think harder, thus making you smarter once you conquer it's presented ideas.
Does doing linguistics or studying classics increase iq just as well as mathematics?
Yes, both I'd say.
If you go deep enough in linguistics it literally is math (or equivalent to it), and classics almost always have an angle to stretch your brain - whether by forcing you to learn new vocabulary or to consider new ideas you hadn't before.
The brain is basically a muscle. Sure, the ability to learn (neuroplasticity) typically decreases with age - but it never goes away completely.
You can always improve with conscious effort, even if you were a 70 yo man.
Although at that age your priorities may shift anyway - you don't have to be very "smart" to enjoy life, after all. But I do think learning is enjoyable in and of itself.
Anyway, thank you for listening to me ramble!
thanks for the comment. often I feel like I am "missing out" by not studying math (and thus becoming more intelligent over all). So your comment is a reassurance.
It's my pleasure! I've felt a similar way before too, but eventually I learned to not let it weigh me down. Never be too disheartened by what you "might have" missed out on - it's never as great a loss as we assume in the moment.
Take care and good luck on your journey, anon!
>There was another book, one on numbers, but I forgot it lol
A Mind For Numbers by Barbara Oakley?
tldr: focus on something you want to solve for a bit. then stop, and let your "diffuse mode" in the background work on it. This trick doesn't even have to do with numbers, and I don't know why it took 300 pages to say that
intelligence is a spook, just work out and keep your back straight
And dats the truth for real dawg. Dem book homies really are disingenuous and shiet for hollering that hoppity hop
You may not get smarter, but at least you're more knowledgeable than when you first started.
Compensate your IQ with just a general or even specific understanding of things by absorbing information. It may not be a complete replacement, but it's better than nothing and you still come out with some sort of betterment.