I find his practice of choosing who to put in Hell and who to put in Heaven deeply off putting. Dante was only a man. It colours the whole experience of his work.
But this is exactly where the strength of the poem comes from
It's deeply personal and he doesn't just place people where they are willy nilly.
Certainly he had some bones to pick with certain individuals, but he lived in heated time.
It was certainly a novel idea to put historical and mythological figures in his own image of the afterlife, but it's still an unabashed self-insert fiction. I feel like he's just excused because of the works prose, historical research and deep religious roots.
>It was certainly a novel idea to put historical and mythological figures in his own image of the afterlife
Muhammad did it much earlier, so it wasn't that novel of an idea. But his credit goes to being much more detailed
Can you stop talking about Dante like you're on discord, you stupid fricking moron? I've hated this dumb meme since I first saw it and you've confirmed it's only posted by those with zero knowledge of Dante.
This anon is right and based. The Divine Comedy is one complete poem split into 3 parts. homosexuals who only read Inferno are akin to homosexuals who only read The Grand Inquisitor
>I do not agree with much modern criticism, in greatly preferring the Inferno to the two other parts of the Divine Commedia. Such preference belongs, I imagine, to our general Byronism of taste, and is like to be a transient feeling. The Purgatorio and Paradiso, especially the former, one would almost say, is even more excellent than it. It is a noble thing that Purgatorio, "Mountain of Purification;" an emblem of the noblest conception of that age. If sin is so fatal, and Hell is and must be so rigorous, awful, yet in Repentance too is man purified; Repentance is the grand Christian act. It is beautiful how Dante works it out. The tremolar dell' onde, that "trembling" of the ocean-waves, under the first pure gleam of morning, dawning afar on the wandering Two, is as the type of an altered mood. Hope has now dawned; never-dying Hope, if in company still with heavy sorrow. The obscure sojourn of demons and reprobate is underfoot; a soft breathing of penitence mounts higher and higher, to the Throne of Mercy itself. "Pray for me," the denizens of that Mount of Pain all say to him. "Tell my Giovanna to pray for me," my daughter Giovanna; "I think her mother loves me no more!" They toil painfully up by that winding steep, "bent down like corbels of a building," some of them,—crushed together so "for the sin of pride;" yet nevertheless in years, in ages and aeons, they shall have reached the top, which is heaven's gate, and by Mercy shall have been admitted in. The joy too of all, when one has prevailed; the whole Mountain shakes with joy, and a psalm of praise rises, when one soul has perfected repentance and got its sin and misery left behind! I call all this a noble embodiment of a true noble thought.
This anon is right and based. The Divine Comedy is one complete poem split into 3 parts. homosexuals who only read Inferno are akin to homosexuals who only read The Grand Inquisitor
>I do not agree with much modern criticism, in greatly preferring the Inferno to the two other parts of the Divine Commedia. Such preference belongs, I imagine, to our general Byronism of taste, and is like to be a transient feeling. The Purgatorio and Paradiso, especially the former, one would almost say, is even more excellent than it. It is a noble thing that Purgatorio, "Mountain of Purification;" an emblem of the noblest conception of that age. If sin is so fatal, and Hell is and must be so rigorous, awful, yet in Repentance too is man purified; Repentance is the grand Christian act. It is beautiful how Dante works it out. The tremolar dell' onde, that "trembling" of the ocean-waves, under the first pure gleam of morning, dawning afar on the wandering Two, is as the type of an altered mood. Hope has now dawned; never-dying Hope, if in company still with heavy sorrow. The obscure sojourn of demons and reprobate is underfoot; a soft breathing of penitence mounts higher and higher, to the Throne of Mercy itself. "Pray for me," the denizens of that Mount of Pain all say to him. "Tell my Giovanna to pray for me," my daughter Giovanna; "I think her mother loves me no more!" They toil painfully up by that winding steep, "bent down like corbels of a building," some of them,—crushed together so "for the sin of pride;" yet nevertheless in years, in ages and aeons, they shall have reached the top, which is heaven's gate, and by Mercy shall have been admitted in. The joy too of all, when one has prevailed; the whole Mountain shakes with joy, and a psalm of praise rises, when one soul has perfected repentance and got its sin and misery left behind! I call all this a noble embodiment of a true noble thought.
Hell sure is convenient
All the people I don't like get sent there and tortured in unnecessarily specific ways
Dante is one of the best unintentional critiques of Christianity that has ever existed
That's not the point
Dante himself acts as description of a historical Christian which illuminates the mentality that gave rise to Christianity in the first place
You can't place Dante or Shakespeare above the other. They both allow their countries an eternal claim in world poetry.
enjoy second place
nothing to be ashamed of
>third place
ftfy
Cervantes and Shakespeare were the same person. There is no evidence that anybody named "Miguel de Cervantes" ever existed.
I find his practice of choosing who to put in Hell and who to put in Heaven deeply off putting. Dante was only a man. It colours the whole experience of his work.
he experienced it all in sets of visions
so to say he put them there is wrong
God put them there
But this is exactly where the strength of the poem comes from
It's deeply personal and he doesn't just place people where they are willy nilly.
Certainly he had some bones to pick with certain individuals, but he lived in heated time.
It was certainly a novel idea to put historical and mythological figures in his own image of the afterlife, but it's still an unabashed self-insert fiction. I feel like he's just excused because of the works prose, historical research and deep religious roots.
>It was certainly a novel idea to put historical and mythological figures in his own image of the afterlife
Muhammad did it much earlier, so it wasn't that novel of an idea. But his credit goes to being much more detailed
>prose
This is such an anachronistic way to look at it. Zoomies are too ironic and meme-brained to appreciate older literature.
Can you stop talking about Dante like you're on discord, you stupid fricking moron? I've hated this dumb meme since I first saw it and you've confirmed it's only posted by those with zero knowledge of Dante.
A renewed influx of "lol lmao even" posting. Most moronic posters on this board without a doubt.
Are purgatory and paradise worth reading or should I just read hell?
They absolutely are. It's a shame that this meme exists and it conclusively proves normies can't into good literature.
This anon is right and based. The Divine Comedy is one complete poem split into 3 parts. homosexuals who only read Inferno are akin to homosexuals who only read The Grand Inquisitor
Ok, I'll read the whole thing
>I do not agree with much modern criticism, in greatly preferring the Inferno to the two other parts of the Divine Commedia. Such preference belongs, I imagine, to our general Byronism of taste, and is like to be a transient feeling. The Purgatorio and Paradiso, especially the former, one would almost say, is even more excellent than it. It is a noble thing that Purgatorio, "Mountain of Purification;" an emblem of the noblest conception of that age. If sin is so fatal, and Hell is and must be so rigorous, awful, yet in Repentance too is man purified; Repentance is the grand Christian act. It is beautiful how Dante works it out. The tremolar dell' onde, that "trembling" of the ocean-waves, under the first pure gleam of morning, dawning afar on the wandering Two, is as the type of an altered mood. Hope has now dawned; never-dying Hope, if in company still with heavy sorrow. The obscure sojourn of demons and reprobate is underfoot; a soft breathing of penitence mounts higher and higher, to the Throne of Mercy itself. "Pray for me," the denizens of that Mount of Pain all say to him. "Tell my Giovanna to pray for me," my daughter Giovanna; "I think her mother loves me no more!" They toil painfully up by that winding steep, "bent down like corbels of a building," some of them,—crushed together so "for the sin of pride;" yet nevertheless in years, in ages and aeons, they shall have reached the top, which is heaven's gate, and by Mercy shall have been admitted in. The joy too of all, when one has prevailed; the whole Mountain shakes with joy, and a psalm of praise rises, when one soul has perfected repentance and got its sin and misery left behind! I call all this a noble embodiment of a true noble thought.
I read The Divine Comedy and I don't see why its that important or meaningful. It's just a cool story. Am I missing something?
ask gpt or watch a video essay. wendigoon has one i think.
>Am I missing something?
A brain and a soul.
Hell sure is convenient
All the people I don't like get sent there and tortured in unnecessarily specific ways
Dante is one of the best unintentional critiques of Christianity that has ever existed
You surely can't be this stupid.
Do you think Dante described hell as it is written in the bible?
That's not the point
Dante himself acts as description of a historical Christian which illuminates the mentality that gave rise to Christianity in the first place
Not really, but you have answered my question. Thankyou.
>makes tuscan standard italian
i kneel
Just imagine, anon, the precise moment at which my hefty nuts come flopping down on your face. Embarrassing for you.
>*exists*
Anon, hes not even the best writer of epic Christian poetry
name 5 better than him