Nothing better than to read a book about high-T males killing each other translated by an academic slooot. Really shows you the raw truths of the world.
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Nothing better than to read a book about high-T males killing each other translated by an academic slooot.
iliad is useless cope for incels and non-serial killers
You will never be as close to achilles as richard ramirez was
>getting booty blasted by Black folk in prison
>achilles
LMAO
>Mutt's law
Every time jfl
>mutts law
just a raw truth of going to jail surrounded by Black folk if you're a Hispanic twink like richard ramirex was.
>didn't learn Homeric Greek
>thinks he has "read the Iliad"
Both are classics.
>ifunny
I just read it to simulate what it feels like to have a rape slave (Briseis)
Are you rewarding me for that realization with sex? I accept!!
So are you implying that Achilles was no hero?
He was a hero in the classical sense. The Iliad is not a book wherein moral judgements are delivered to anyone. It’s like a proto-documentary type look at the war where it goes “the gods fated for this to happen and so it did.”
I mean he could also be interpreted as a hero, in the modern sense if you include Nietzsche's philosophy in that (Nietzsche obviously being a modernist in some sense, although he was arguing against modernism with his over-man figure) because Nietzsche is essentially praising Greco-Roman culture and its Homeric honor-culture, aggression, and masculinity.
Homer himself the man only delivers judgement on anyone one time in the whole Iliad. It is when the Lycian king trades armor for some other guys armor which is much cheaper and the narrator says he is fricking stupid to do that. The actual main players of the story are never characterized by their actions, never heaped with praise or scolded.
The whole book is essentially an act of praise. It's an epic.
If you think the message of the Iliad is to mold your life to make it as close to Achilles as possible then there’s no helping you.
There's a seed of truth in Achilles actions
>aggressive
>risk-taking
>honor-seeking
>glory seeking
>ambitious
>assertive
He is essentially what Nietzsche would describe as a higher type. Why wouldn't you want to be more assertive/dominant in everyday life. I'm not saying to go out there killing people if you're just your average American because obviously you will go to jail/prison. But if you are blessed with position/status or you worked your way to the top in life then you obviously want to be a high-T type that expands his civilization's prowess. Why is that a bad thing? are you saying that Homer's epic is merely descriptive and not normative?
Staying out of combat was selfish and it was at the risk of his comrade’s lives. If Achilles had fought alongside his men, Patroclus would have lived on. The tale is telling you how brooding by yourself is self-absorbed and it allows your comrades to die.
You're missing the bigger picture I think and you're not reading between the lines. Although there are a lot of PTSD-related themes in the Illiad the work is still an act of praise in ancient Greek society. It's a fricking badass epic. If you miss the badassery of the Illiad then I guess I would say you misinterpreted the entire epic.
>He is essentially what Nietzsche would describe as a higher type.
TIL Nietzsche was PSL/looksmax personified
Was achilles chadlite? He did slay after all
>that expands his civilization's prowess
Aka zogbot
Shut up moron
>Aka zogbot
Remove Israel from the equation and, generally speaking, you want to expand European civilization to the stars.
Fershur I finna make an intergalactic longhouse where you kiss your prostitute wife's feet with a mesmerizing view of Pluto b
B b beast of a mindset
Die in a fire stupid shitposter.
Cope
>you want to expand European civilization to the stars.
Achilles never cared about this but lesser grunts did.
telling...
You think people like Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great didn't care about expansionary policies? higher types in Nietzsche's philosophy are ambitious. Are you implying that Achilles wasn't ambitious?
achilles did not do what you claimed is le good, in fact he let his men get killed and never cared about "le greece empire" like the common dumb grunt
caesar attacked and conquered his own country. He became the state himself
alexander waged war against other greeks and grew macedonian (HIS) empire while mixing with persians left and right
just accept you're a spiritual cuckold. No shame in it since you won't do shit anyway
>le good
I'm not talking about the le good. All the people that you and I mentioned were not about the le good. Nietzschean philosophy is not necessarily about the le good. Go be a Black person somewhere else.
It’s all about how we are at the mercy of the whims of the god(s)