1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Finland
5. Sweden
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OBJECTIVE ranking of Scandi literature
1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Finland
5. Sweden
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qrd on Icelandic lit? Country looks comfy but do they have chuds like Knut Hamsun writing based books?
It's mostly just murder mysteries, crime and modern fantasy
The Icelandic sagas are peak kino. Chuds are not welcome here.
Icelandic sagas are just all chuds. You should read svarfdælasaga and see what Karl Karlsson does to the woman who caused the death of his father. Killing her is not an option since killing women was considered dishonorable, so he uses other means to make her life a living hell.
Halldor Laxness was a communist sympathizer. He's their Nobel Prize winner. Independent People is a very good anti-capitalist novel.
So in other words what you´re saying is that he was a raging homosexual who contributed absolutetly nothing to human society. Did he know that he was sympathizing with a failed ideology filled with pseuds and other morons?
He contributed literary kino to world culture. Leave the anti-commie act for the boomers.
Knut Hamsun strongly associated himself with the Nazis. National Socialism doens't seem like a very successful ideology to me. And Laxness distanced himself from the Soviet Union after the Hungarian Revolution. Shame that being anti-usury makes you a raging homosexual.
>If you dont support my shit ideology you are pro usury.
Get a load of this homosexual israelite.
You called him a raging homosexual for writing anti-capitalist books. Hitler was an anti-capitalist you moronic homosexual. have a nice day.
He didn't just disassociate from the soviet union. He became a full-blown catholic, lol.
>National Socialism doens't seem like a very successful ideology to me
they took a country from financial ruin to doing better than it ever had, in under 5 years, then gave them 12 years total of prosperity untill mistakes were made that had very little to do with national socialism and more to do with lead and russians.
Another lesser known author actually wrote another novel in response to Laxness called People of the Valley. It's pretty simple to say that independant people is anti-capitalist since it is more akin to anti-rural life, which Laxness absolutely hated and there's no wonder he decided to move to the city like a bourgie the moment he could. He also saw the people living in rural iceland as basically backwards hicks. The difference is that Hulda, the author of Valley, lived in the countryside for her entire life and loved it.
My fqvorite Laxness stpry is when his baby peed himself on him and his father-in-law laughed, saying, "good one, namesake!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnar_Gunnarsson
They literally had their own Hamsun.
> who wrote mainly in Danish
Dropped
They actually have two, kinda. Guðmundur Kamban is one but he was a playwright and his connections to nazism are less certain since all he did was receive subsidies from the occupation forces in denmark to write some essay. For this, the danish resistance decided to shot him at a public restaurant in front of his wife and children when he denied being a collaborator.
Iceland only has their pagan poetry, which has survived to this day among their poets. It's kind of cheating since none of their poets from the past few hundred years is an equal to the best writers or poets of the rest of Scandinavia. They're really just hanging onto their golden age.
>Iceland only has their pagan poetry
You're forgetting the sagas.
>It's kind of cheating since none of their poets from the past few hundred years is an equal to the best writers or poets of the rest of Scandinavia.
Halldór Laxness is better than most Swedish writers, for example.
>You're forgetting the sagas.
I meant anything related to or coming out of their myths.
Well, you should've written that. Sagas aren't poetry.
They have sections of poetry, they were written by poets...
Having parts of poetry doesn't make them poetry. They're prose fiction. Stop being insecure and combative just because I pointed out your mistake.
No, you're a moron. No one in modern Iceland writes sagas, their poetry is the only thing that survives and as far as I know the only type of poetry they write in. Poetry is easily conceivable as a catch all term, you're a weirdly aggressive and most likely autistic person.
Sagas aren't poetry, have you even read them, moron? You were WRONG and I was RIGHT. Take the L and move on.
I said sagas can contain poetry, have YOU read them?
Nice damage control but you originally referred to them as "pagan poetry". That doesn't define them accurately.
No, no, no, anon, you just said sagas aren't poetry, that's pretty clear damage control for what you just said a moment ago: sagas aren't poetry. At any rate, I was referring to the entire poetic world of Iceland. And since their poetry is the only surviving tradition, it's easily assumable that poetry meant their entire literature.
> you just said sagas aren't poetry
Correct, they aren’t, even if they contain bits of poetry. Same goes for all sorts of prose fiction that contains some poetry but it’s otherwise mostly prose.
> And since their poetry is the only surviving tradition, it's easily assumable that poetry meant their entire literature.
Now that’s some nice damage control lmao
I'm learning Old Norse atm and if I ever get anywhere with the language I hope to learn the other Scandinavian languages as well
For Swedish I want to read Moomins and I will also watch the TV show with the Finno-Swedish dub
For Norwegian I want to read Knut Hamsun and Ibsen, also Ringdrotten, the Nynorsk translation of Lord of the Rings
Sagas are first and foremost prose stories which sometimes contain poetry and sometimes they don't
Also I'm not sure what you mean by surviving tradition
Also I forgot
I would want to read the Red Orm which Swedish anons have told me is great
But then it depends on how easily it'd be to pick up modern Scandinavian languages
Also apparently the nynorsk edition of Lord of the Rings is full of dialects and so I'd probably get filtered hard if I didn't dedicate myself to Norwegian which I don't want to do
Has anyone here read Ringdrotten?
Norwegian is worth learning instead of Swedish. Richer literature
Gunnar Gunnarson seems like he would be worth reading. Back in the day he was considered to be on-par with Laxness. It's hard to find his works in translation these days. The only Icelander to have met Hitler.
It's more that a lot of people thought Gunnar should have gotten a posthumous nobel prize, not that that prize matters in any way. Advent is ok, but once you've read one icelandic realist story you've read them all.
1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Denmark
4. Finland
5. Iceland
t. don't really have a clue but shit Black person Iceland is clearly not relevant beyond medieval stuff
That medieval stuff BTFOs Sweden's entire output, thoughbeit.
why is Swedish lit so shit? Imagine being mogged in your own region lmao
You're underread
Literally any other Scandi country mogs Sweden. Admit it, Sven.
Pär Lagerkvist and August Strindberg are certified kino tho
Norway
Denmark
Sweden
Iceland
This is the correct order. Iceland's output is impressive considering their size but they simply lack the volume to compete with the others. And I left out Finland because they're not part of Scandinavia.
The sagas alone are better than Sweden’s entire output.
>Iceland
>Part of Scandinavia
Linguistically it is so I include it.
Scandic mountain range is not a language group, it's a mountain range
Then Denmark isn't Scandinavian either.
And then Finland would be. Scandinavia is often just used interchangeably to mean nordic countries. Scandinavia is just Sweden, Norway and Denmark but this too is a bit convoluted as Finland was part of Sweden when concept of Scandinavia was established.
Nordic sounds like some pseudonazi BS. Scandinavian is a tricky term because the Scandinavian mountain range includes Finland but not Denmark. I guess I'll just call them the North Germanic languages.
You do realize that Nordic countries is an actual thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries
Also Finnish is not germanic language.
>You do realize that Nordic countries is an actual thing?
Doesn't make it right. It comes from outdated French race theories from the 19th century and doesn't include Denmark and Finland.
>Also Finnish is not germanic language.
I'm aware.
>pseudonazi BS
>Uhh you can't just write a variation of the word "northern" because that gives me chud vibes, creep
The reason you people are so funny is because you are too stupid to understand how ridiculous you look.
It's a racial classification.
Guess where Icelanders came from.
Which made Moomin? That one is the best.
Finland
Swedish literature towers above the rest. Just ask the Nobel prize committee.
The Nobel prize committee was very honorable back then. Harry Martinson even committed hara-kiri with a pair of scissors when his Nobel prize win was questioned due to him being on the committee.
Alastalon salissa mogs any scandi shit book easily.
>alastalon salissa
Dangerously based. Honorable mention for Sinuhe the Egyptian for the best historical novel of all time.
Guest The One-Eyed by Gunnarsson is a good story.
Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Iceland
Finland
>Sweden second
lol
it’s not because they’re good, the others just suck even more
Iceland mogs Sweden.
Iceland has like one book post-Snorri
Iceland has the sagas. That alone BTFOs the Swedish output. By far the weakest of any of those countries. Mogged by Norway and Denmark too.
You spent the whole day shrieking this in the exact same wording over and over. Go outside man.
I will die on this hill. The sagas are a literary treasure on the same level as say, the Arthurian cycles. They're one of the best bodies of literature literature and Sweden has nothing similar. Have a nice day.
Glad you agree Norway is non-controversially superior.
Where to start with the sagas? Njål?
I recommend you read Hrafnkels saga, Bandamanna saga, Gunnlaugs saga or Króka-Refs saga
They are all extremely streamlined compared to the majority of Sagas in that they're all focused on the plot
Gislas saga is also great but it is slightly less streamlined
That's not true, there are plenty of post-Snorri sagas
>denmark
o i am laffin
Where does Canada fall?
Thoughts on Jón Kalman Stefánsson's works?
Iceland seems like it'd be the perfect country for a literary person to live. I hear they give books as presents at Christmas and 1 in every ten person or so has written a novel of some kind. Icelandic girls also seem like they are pretty alpha which I kind of like
>Thoughts on Jón Kalman Stefánsson's works?
it's ok
I don't want to be rude but Söderberg feels second-rate (or even third-rate) at best. He is vastly inferior to other fin de siecle writers or Dostoevsky and you can't seriously pretend that he comes close to Ibsen and Hamsun from Norway or the Islandic sagas.
Shill Stagnelius instead!
>dramatists and fricking Dostoevsky
Can you name at least one prose author who writes in the same delicate mode as Söderberg? (Stagnelius is decent)
I am not a Swede, but my friend considers Strindberg's prose to be superior if I recally correctly, although I might have to ask him to make sure. Personally I was just not too impressed with Doktor Glas and consider it well-written but not "first-rate".
1. Norway
2. Iceland
3. Sweden
4. Finland
5. Denmark
I have no idea what was written in Denmark. Not a single author or work comes to mind.
Any good immersive books about sailor or farmers?
Growth of the Soil
I am already planning to read him
Kon-Tiki
I have fond memories of reading this at a summer cabin.
"Den siste viking"
Where does Canada fall?
I wish I could visit Scandinavia but the plane tickets are expensive
I'm going to end up learning three Scandinavian languages and never setting foot in the region
Where do you live?
>Scandi literature
Lol, lmao even. I think its a grammatical error to put those two words in a same sentence
why? are you the Iranian schizo who hates the Scandinavians?