Well, do they? Obscenian is shilled on IQfy wall to wall, probably by the Polish developers, always with the logoplus some inane OP txt. had many used it, the shilling would not be this intense.
Really? If avoidance of proprietary software were your only concern, you could run wild on this extensive list:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/KnowledgeManagementSystems
Can someone make a open source clone of this already? Like actually a clone to the standard of LibreOffice.
INB4 Logseq, it isn't a clone, it's gay. Trillium or whatever the frick it's called is also dogshit.
because it's not open source
See the above link.
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>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/KnowledgeManagementSystems
thanks anon, I'll check it out. Any recommendations?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Any recommendations?
Sorry, no. I compiled that list in an effort to see what I should use myself. And hundred edits later it is still not clear to me other than that Evernote is not for me.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/KnowledgeManagementSystems
thanks anon, I'll check it out. Any recommendations?
>proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
but they're stored in the md files which is an universal format, brainlet
and just firewall it if paranoid
2 months ago
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>proprietary >I know what it's doing because the developer told me so
moron
>proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
but they're stored in the md files which is an universal format, brainlet
and just firewall it if paranoid
[x] editor of your choice (use notepad for all I fricking care)
[x] file saved as .md for link highlighting etc.
[x] saved to syncthing folder.
>[x] editor of your choice (use notepad for all I fricking care) >[x] file saved as .md for link highlighting etc. >[x] saved to syncthing folder.
>I refuse to use a proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
Recently started using GrapheneOS and it's pretty sweet. I'm free to use whatever proprietary software I want because I know it won't be able to phone home due to lack of network permissions or access any other information on the phone due to solid sandboxing and a mature storage permission system.
Google keyboard is the best keyboard I've personally ever used, I couldn't go without it in lack of a better alternative, so I just revoke network permissions for it and I'm clear. Obsidian similarly doesn't get network permissions, really not even because I'm afraid of it phoning home, more just because notepads don't need network permissions so I didn't give it to it. I don't take notes on my laptop so I don't need to worry about syncing, I always have my phone on me so if I need to make a note, it's going in my phone anyways.
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I also run graphene, but I use my computer for typing mostly, so I need something that is auditable. Back in the day, when you could get a phone with a decent keyboard, I would type on mine a lot.
i only started using it because one of my employees said we can use git to share notes
it works well enough but the markdown is wonky
and yeah, it's basically quintessential late 2010s electron app and runs like it
It works for me. I like to write a lot of ideas on my computer and sync it on my phone through Onedrive (which is shocking since i actually i never used it for anything)
Because notepad can't be made into a wiki-like formatting.
Obsidian is a personal knowledge database with "quick note" functions a la Notepad. The difference is that Obsidian has [[backlinks]] a la a Wiki to where you can go through the notes/articles you made like Wikipedia.
There's also the fact it's graphing function is basically a free Vizio if you learn it.
Or people just like it.
I am not one of those people and I refuse to use a proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
>and I refuse to use a proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
I fricking wish there was better options. Logseq isn't it, and Tiddlywiki/etc. just aren't as good.
Notion is closed source, but pretty. But it isn't a wiki.
Can someone make a open source clone of this already? Like actually a clone to the standard of LibreOffice.
INB4 Logseq, it isn't a clone, it's gay. Trillium or whatever the frick it's called is also dogshit.
Sorry for this post, I am beyond tired, and my reading capabilities reached the negative.
I used LogSeq for a time, then switched to a bare bone web wiki, which is good enough for my usage.
LogSeq sucks in the same way as Obsidian, if you don't like Electron, you won't like either.
KDE + KWrite + file tagging + appropriate program for any rich content.
Korganiser for to do lists and there. You're done:) make new files on you desktop and organise periodically .
If you need dense hyper text, write it as text first then copy into an real wiki like doku or tiddly
>[x] editor of your choice
Obsidian lets me open notes on VSCode when I need, since >[x] file saved as .md for link highlighting etc.
Obsidian notes are stored as markdown files. >[x] saved to syncthing folder.
Just put you vault inside a sync folder.
I like making tabs and folders for my autistic shit, it keeps it organized, i wish i could share the same notes among my devices to improve my autistic note / ideas / journaling
I've used both Obsidian and Logseq, I liked the way Obsidian did things better, Logseq follows a weird format that works but when I'm writing notes I like to organize them all specific to their purpose. Obsidian does something similar but isn't much of a bother.
Can't actually recommend either in good conscience, both use Markdown so you're not tied to them, but you need to learn their features to use them. Both are Electron, and I don't want anything I use written in Electron, much less my text editor. Nearly a gigabyte of my space cleared when both were removed, even just Logseq is around 400mb, I can't imagine why either would be so big.
If you really want to, I'd say use Obsidian and firewall its access to the internet, and then synchronize the actual .md files with syncthing or Nextcloud, if you need to.
I'll either look for something else in the same vein or stick with the stock text editor that comes with my DE, not really worth it.
People have been saying to just use OneNote and make single cell tables if you want background colors. But I prefer Obsidian. It does become a resource hog, but that's mostly because my main canvas has thousands of notes on it cause I'm too lazy to save and classify them separately instead of just throwing them in a vaguely appropriate section of an infinite canvas. I also like how pretty it looks, it makes me feel more productive than I really am.
Obsidian is a good app and has worked wonders for my ADHD. Externalizing information is very important for me. When there is a FOSS alternative with its feature set I will switch. Tested Logseq which is alright and might consider it at the end of the year or something. Moving 1000 notes over seems like a PITA.
As an obsidian user for many years now I just switched to doom emacs. The complexity of emacs is largely a meme. After a couple of hours all relevant functionality of obsidian I could replace with some equivalent in emacs. Only thing I'm missing is the hover over link pop-up where you could lurk into files without opening them and I guess sometimes it was really nice to put a short video clip into my notes, though I rarely did so.
Why did I switch? Obsidian sucks for anything that isn't a classical note. In emacs I can do anything related to text files I want. Even with plugins obsidian started to feel limited and with the closed source aspect I couldn't be sure how long it will last. With emacs I can keep learning and using it till my death.
Which is trully a pity. I wish the people of asciidoc would have pulled the fingers out their asses and stop being unsufferable pricks when they still had a chance of competing. It is over now
File tagging is something I don't understand at all for text files. If you're writing in plain text, every word can effectively be a tag using a search tool, like grep for example.
Back-linking is another one I don't really understand. It's just a hyper link to another note, right?
The idea that you can slap a bunch of tags and banklinks into a file, and create something useful without any actual intent is the most moronic thing about this whole note-taking fad.
They are just tools for organization. Yes, every word in a text file can be used as a tag but that makes the idea of tags worthless. Tags are essentially about creating deliberate context. With tags you are never searching for files, you are searching for a context. Tags are the only sensible tool if you are dealing with thousands or hundreds of thousands of files.
I can essentially filter hundreds of thousands of files to the relevant 30 if I input like 3 relevant tags. Without this deliberate system you leave it purely to chance whether the right words are in your text files to be found by grep.
Linking basically is about the same idea. You never have to remember any explicit file, just the context in which it exists which is infinitely more reliable. >create something useful without any actual intent
It's just another tool. No one is using it for quite the same purpose. Wikis, documentation, paper notes, and knowledge bases essentially all exist for the same purpose of organizing knowledge, just that their structure differs.
I'm not using obsidian because I'm a GNU/EMACS Chad, but I don't think it'll ruin your ssd.
My ssd from 2012 is still alive and I made no effort to spare it's life, using swap etc.
many hard drives (3 to be accurate) were bought and died in the meanwhile.
i really don't know why people use it over notepad
Well, do they? Obscenian is shilled on IQfy wall to wall, probably by the Polish developers, always with the logoplus some inane OP txt. had many used it, the shilling would not be this intense.
Or people just like it.
I am not one of those people and I refuse to use a proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
Really? If avoidance of proprietary software were your only concern, you could run wild on this extensive list:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/KnowledgeManagementSystems
See the above link.
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/KnowledgeManagementSystems
thanks anon, I'll check it out. Any recommendations?
>Any recommendations?
Sorry, no. I compiled that list in an effort to see what I should use myself. And hundred edits later it is still not clear to me other than that Evernote is not for me.
Dendron is looking promising.
>proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
but they're stored in the md files which is an universal format, brainlet
and just firewall it if paranoid
>proprietary
>I know what it's doing because the developer told me so
moron
>[x] editor of your choice (use notepad for all I fricking care)
>[x] file saved as .md for link highlighting etc.
>[x] saved to syncthing folder.
>I refuse to use a proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
Recently started using GrapheneOS and it's pretty sweet. I'm free to use whatever proprietary software I want because I know it won't be able to phone home due to lack of network permissions or access any other information on the phone due to solid sandboxing and a mature storage permission system.
Google keyboard is the best keyboard I've personally ever used, I couldn't go without it in lack of a better alternative, so I just revoke network permissions for it and I'm clear. Obsidian similarly doesn't get network permissions, really not even because I'm afraid of it phoning home, more just because notepads don't need network permissions so I didn't give it to it. I don't take notes on my laptop so I don't need to worry about syncing, I always have my phone on me so if I need to make a note, it's going in my phone anyways.
I also run graphene, but I use my computer for typing mostly, so I need something that is auditable. Back in the day, when you could get a phone with a decent keyboard, I would type on mine a lot.
i only started using it because one of my employees said we can use git to share notes
it works well enough but the markdown is wonky
and yeah, it's basically quintessential late 2010s electron app and runs like it
>quintessential late 2010s electron app
How does that differ from mid 2020s electron apps?
not much, electron just isn't the hot meta anymore, whereas it was peak devslop for its time
What are people using nowadays instead?
It works for me. I like to write a lot of ideas on my computer and sync it on my phone through Onedrive (which is shocking since i actually i never used it for anything)
Notepad has zero formatting
Who the FRICK needs formatting?
>can't embed gifs
>can't embed web-links
>can't embed other notes
>list goes on and on
gee I wonder why
Imagine not coding your own second brain
With Neuralink you might hack your own brain.
Because notepad can't be made into a wiki-like formatting.
Obsidian is a personal knowledge database with "quick note" functions a la Notepad. The difference is that Obsidian has [[backlinks]] a la a Wiki to where you can go through the notes/articles you made like Wikipedia.
There's also the fact it's graphing function is basically a free Vizio if you learn it.
>and I refuse to use a proprietary program to store all of my personal thoughts.
I fricking wish there was better options. Logseq isn't it, and Tiddlywiki/etc. just aren't as good.
Notion is closed source, but pretty. But it isn't a wiki.
Have you tried Dendron?
>notepad over a terminal text editor
Embedding, linking, formatting
it just works don't listen to IQfy basically ever.
>glorified chromium/electron
what do you think?
Only unique thing it has going for it is the excalidraw plugin.
Can someone make a open source clone of this already? Like actually a clone to the standard of LibreOffice.
INB4 Logseq, it isn't a clone, it's gay. Trillium or whatever the frick it's called is also dogshit.
Why would anyone do that when the original just works?
because it's not open source
So what?
If they make it paid or abandon it you can always install the last release and use it for 15 years while someone else remake it.
emac
LogSeq is an open source alternative
Sorry for this post, I am beyond tired, and my reading capabilities reached the negative.
I used LogSeq for a time, then switched to a bare bone web wiki, which is good enough for my usage.
LogSeq sucks in the same way as Obsidian, if you don't like Electron, you won't like either.
Never used obsidian, but Im happy with vscode's dendron extension, maybe check it?
AnyType is ok.
>app
>.io
let me guess - electron?
KDE + KWrite + file tagging + appropriate program for any rich content.
Korganiser for to do lists and there. You're done:) make new files on you desktop and organise periodically .
If you need dense hyper text, write it as text first then copy into an real wiki like doku or tiddly
>just works
>IQfy hates it
man, I'll never not love rejoicing in the misery of neets fighting over crumbs of cred
buy an ad
[x] editor of your choice (use notepad for all I fricking care)
[x] file saved as .md for link highlighting etc.
[x] saved to syncthing folder.
>[x] editor of your choice
Obsidian lets me open notes on VSCode when I need, since
>[x] file saved as .md for link highlighting etc.
Obsidian notes are stored as markdown files.
>[x] saved to syncthing folder.
Just put you vault inside a sync folder.
buy an ad
Anon, modern SSDs will die in 16 years if you write 100gb per day.
Lmao, we don't have SLC ssds out for years now
are you moronic?
>Putin runes
didn't read
I like making tabs and folders for my autistic shit, it keeps it organized, i wish i could share the same notes among my devices to improve my autistic note / ideas / journaling
>i wish i could share the same notes among my devices to improve my autistic note / ideas / journaling
>[x] saved to syncthing folder.
Who knows. Install Logseq.
I've used both Obsidian and Logseq, I liked the way Obsidian did things better, Logseq follows a weird format that works but when I'm writing notes I like to organize them all specific to their purpose. Obsidian does something similar but isn't much of a bother.
Can't actually recommend either in good conscience, both use Markdown so you're not tied to them, but you need to learn their features to use them. Both are Electron, and I don't want anything I use written in Electron, much less my text editor. Nearly a gigabyte of my space cleared when both were removed, even just Logseq is around 400mb, I can't imagine why either would be so big.
If you really want to, I'd say use Obsidian and firewall its access to the internet, and then synchronize the actual .md files with syncthing or Nextcloud, if you need to.
I'll either look for something else in the same vein or stick with the stock text editor that comes with my DE, not really worth it.
cause it writes every keystroke, I'd imagine lolol
Why would a text editor for a bunch of Markdown files thrash your SSD?
Obsidian changed my life
it's bad for your brain and butthole, use org instead
People have been saying to just use OneNote and make single cell tables if you want background colors. But I prefer Obsidian. It does become a resource hog, but that's mostly because my main canvas has thousands of notes on it cause I'm too lazy to save and classify them separately instead of just throwing them in a vaguely appropriate section of an infinite canvas. I also like how pretty it looks, it makes me feel more productive than I really am.
emacs + org-mode and move on with your life.
Obsidian is a good app and has worked wonders for my ADHD. Externalizing information is very important for me. When there is a FOSS alternative with its feature set I will switch. Tested Logseq which is alright and might consider it at the end of the year or something. Moving 1000 notes over seems like a PITA.
>joplin has countless self-hosted sync server options
>obsidian has no self-hosting and charges for syncing
obsidian is botnet
>has no self-hosting
>locally stored plain text files
moron
oh yeah? sync your phone to desktop obsidian moron without some hacky gay workaround.
you gay boy
>syncing files = hacky gay workaround
holy illiterate
so you can't. I accept your concession
You can, you just don't want to accept that you have to put in the legwork instead of paying for them to do the legwork for you.
>still no solution
still accept your concession
>erases your vault after an update
heh, nothing personal kid
I make backups. Occasionally.
As an obsidian user for many years now I just switched to doom emacs. The complexity of emacs is largely a meme. After a couple of hours all relevant functionality of obsidian I could replace with some equivalent in emacs. Only thing I'm missing is the hover over link pop-up where you could lurk into files without opening them and I guess sometimes it was really nice to put a short video clip into my notes, though I rarely did so.
Why did I switch? Obsidian sucks for anything that isn't a classical note. In emacs I can do anything related to text files I want. Even with plugins obsidian started to feel limited and with the closed source aspect I couldn't be sure how long it will last. With emacs I can keep learning and using it till my death.
I dont see the appeal of markdown over plain text..if you need formatting just use html.
>bad for SSD
Where's the proof you fricking morons?
it's a meme from older builds ~4 years ago that's still being forced..
moron
The future is Markdown, all the LLMs output in markdown.
Which is trully a pity. I wish the people of asciidoc would have pulled the fingers out their asses and stop being unsufferable pricks when they still had a chance of competing. It is over now
File tagging is something I don't understand at all for text files. If you're writing in plain text, every word can effectively be a tag using a search tool, like grep for example.
Back-linking is another one I don't really understand. It's just a hyper link to another note, right?
The idea that you can slap a bunch of tags and banklinks into a file, and create something useful without any actual intent is the most moronic thing about this whole note-taking fad.
They are just tools for organization. Yes, every word in a text file can be used as a tag but that makes the idea of tags worthless. Tags are essentially about creating deliberate context. With tags you are never searching for files, you are searching for a context. Tags are the only sensible tool if you are dealing with thousands or hundreds of thousands of files.
I can essentially filter hundreds of thousands of files to the relevant 30 if I input like 3 relevant tags. Without this deliberate system you leave it purely to chance whether the right words are in your text files to be found by grep.
Linking basically is about the same idea. You never have to remember any explicit file, just the context in which it exists which is infinitely more reliable.
>create something useful without any actual intent
It's just another tool. No one is using it for quite the same purpose. Wikis, documentation, paper notes, and knowledge bases essentially all exist for the same purpose of organizing knowledge, just that their structure differs.
It's basically VS Code with Markdown extensions for people who can be assed to install the Markdown extensions
foam is pretty good on vschode
What it the world are you talking about
I'm not using obsidian because I'm a GNU/EMACS Chad, but I don't think it'll ruin your ssd.
My ssd from 2012 is still alive and I made no effort to spare it's life, using swap etc.
many hard drives (3 to be accurate) were bought and died in the meanwhile.
notational-fzf-vim is pretty slick
>I don't have time to maintain this project anymore. If you are interested in taking over, please contact me in the GitHub issues.
oof
Why don't you step in?
yeah sure i'll get right on it