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OH MY GOD THIS FRICKING PIECE OF SHIT IS THE MOST BORING THING IVE EVER READ
Seriously this is LITERALLY less fun than reading the church pamphlets with random verses from the Bible on them
You are a part of the industry, aren't you?
It’s called lawd of dem rangs and the characters are black chuds
Black chuds you say? That's a new one.
Bluds. They're the new Bloods. Red v. Blue and all that.
I'd have probably gotten further than the council of Elrond chapters if the MCs were black chuds.
Sorry you feel that way. I find the opening chapters in the Shire fun. The Shire itself is like a character you get to know. It's important to show what Frodo is leaving behind, and what he and Sam want to preserve.
Have a bit of patience. And don't skip the songs.
It also serves as contrast and a comparison between the naive, idle environment Frodo comes from and the dark journey ahead of him. It is absolutely integral to the story and the character, besides, it also makes a lot more sense in hindsight in why Tolkien decided to have the first two opening chapters be so lighthearted and different in tone. You also have to account that he was making an expansive world rich in history and detail, and it was needed to show you what happened years later after Bilbo finished his journey with the dwarves and what changed in the interim.
You say that without saying the reason, frick off this trash thread.
>literally can’t read op’s one line
Lol average lotr fan
>anons will eat this shitty bait right up, gladly
try the silmarillion ya pussy
Lmfao yeah its actually funny how boring it is, I think you have to be a teenager to get into it or some sort of manbaby adult who likes feeling comfy with his poopy pants diaper fantasy book about all the comfy gandalf wizards and dwarfs and dragons
t. chronic masturbator, regularly consumes fast food
Alternatively, a depressed alcoholic drug addict who reads Russians and hates himself, making him incapable of understanding the concept of fun.
>Sauron is up to no good! I must inform my good friend Sauronman!
Bravo Tolkien.
When did literal midwit normies take over IQfy?
>pic rel: ancient Bilbo
I remember having a big hurdle reading this at 11 or 12, with the long hobbit preamble and songs and a bunch of shit that felt irrelevant at the time. Got sucked in after that though and read through all of them in a couple of days. I think the pacing can give people trouble but you should be over that before you finish the first book.
I admit I'm struggling to finish the Hobbit. Is LotR any better or is it more of the same? Should I continue? I really enjoyed the LotR movie trilogy if that helps.
They're quite different.
>The Hobbit
Written primarily for his children.
>The Lord of the Rings
Written primarily for his own enjoyment but for the enjoyment of this children now grown up.
but also for the enjoyment of his children now grown up
Stick to your tv shows kid
Seriously, if someone has to twist your arm to read basic shit like Tolkien or Rowling, you have no hope (zero (0) chance) of reading anything actually worthwhile like real classics, history, philosophy, or science.
Unironically, give up and veg out to some goybox. I hear they came out with a new series on Alexander the Great; I'm sure it's totally accurate and gives you a perfect reason not to *have* to read Plutarch. Phew! Amirite?
if you're struggling to finish a children's book, you may actually be moronic.
those covers are an utter travesty, who approved that fricking slop?
Ooo, those are nice.
iirc they're the tolkien's original cover designs, but bc they would have been too costly to produce he chose to use a more minimalist layout instead
The duality of Atani
terrible bait op kys
I read like 80 pages of it last night, it's very good and fun.
Tolkien is the best writer of fantasy.
May as well give up on fantasy, because anything that isn't tolkien is dogshit.
The point of tolkien is that his autismo and autistic imagination is comparable to create a complete wortd, with a complete history, biography, languages.
It's a marvel of human imagination, and the template of basically an entire genre.
Anything after tolkien is just a poor imitation of his autismo.
Sorry OP, but you need to at least understand the context of the book before talking shit about it.
>Tolkien is the best writer of fantasy.
There were plenty of better fantasy authors before him. If anything, he ruined fantasy, regardless of how good his stuff was.
sounds like cope of lesser writers.
It would be moronic for them to use that to cope since they were the ones who decided to just make all of their shitty books Lord of the Rings but worse.
>there were plenty
Name five, doofus.
Lord Dunsany
Fritz Lieber
Hope Mirrlees
E R Eddison
Mervyn Peake
>occultist moron
>contrarian
I'll name more than that.
Arthur Edward Waite
Kenneth Morris
William Morris
George MacDonald
Lord Dunsany
William Hope Hodgson
Edgar Rice Burroughs
Robert E. Howard
T.H. White
E.R. Eddison
Pearl Poet
C.S. Lewis
Clark Ashton Smith
George Sterling
Michael Drayton
Edgar Allan Poe
Add Pyle and Lovecraft (Dream Cycle) in there.
>better
Yes, all of them are better fantasy authors than Tolkien.
No, they aren't. You're just another contrarian. Dime a dozen, you.
>They're not better than tolkien cause...cause...THEY'RE JUST NOT OK
Tolkien is very much overrated anon.
Thanks for that, midwit. You argued in the same fashion you were criticizing, btw.
If that's your only guess, you're a poor guesser. Poe is bottom-of-the-barrel for literature. Can he write? Sure. Was he creative? Sure. Is he a master? Not by a long shot. Poe is the aperitif of literature.
>occultists
>great at fantasy
They're shit at it, however.
That's a solid 5/10.
>Poe
>Greater than Tolkien
Put down the crack pipe, Abelard.
You see, the problem here is, by modern conceptions, most of those don't even qualify as fantasy. Tolkien is such a colossus, you may as well define the genre by B.T. and A.T. And by that qualification alone, your claims are undone.
But Drayton, Poe, Morris, ect.,. c'mon, NOT fantasy in any way which can be compared to Tolkien. Poe...lmao, what were you thinking?
No surprise that many of those authors wouldn't fit under the umbrella if you define fantasy strictly along post-Tolkien lines.
>But Drayton, Poe, Morris, ect.,. c'mon, NOT fantasy in any way which can be compared to Tolkien. Poe...lmao, what were you thinking?
Yeah, I guess not, if you think world building is all that goes into making good fantasy. Poe is incredible, but since it sounds like you're scoffing at the mere mention of him, I can only guess you're just bitter about having had to read him in school.
I love Tolkien. It isn't contrarian to say that one of my favorite fantasy authors was outdone. And the truth is, fantasy is much, much better served in verse.
It only makes sense that theosophists and other occultists would be great at writing fantasy. Just as Tolkien had a wealth of knowledge to pull from, so did they.
The great thing about authors like Tolkien and Lewis is that they didn't sit around measuring their metaphorical dicks; they loved fantasy for the joy and the culture, and didn't stoop to IQfy-tier arguments of who is "better" than whom. Lewis and Tolkien were good friends until their falling out and both were great admirers of MacDonald and the like. Get over it like they did
Hobbits being barefoot was even inspired by MacDonald's barefoot goblins that had no soles/souls.
Eat shit, posturing pseud. No one needs your mothering.
He's right tho. Stay mad IQfylet
Oh, did I hurt your feelings when I cursed at your mommy, homosexual?
>being this mad
The only one hurt is you, little sensitive queer.
Shut the frick up, you clearly never read Zelazny.
>May as well give up on fantasy, because anything that isn't tolkien is dogshit.
Lmfao no
One look at that guy, and it's obvious his wife fricked black men.
The frick is wrong with you anon
He never married and it's actually debatable if Howard ever had sex. Can't get cucked if you're a virgin.
>character goggles at conan's steely thews rippling under bronze skin as he fights like a timber wolf or panther
That's 90% of every conan story.
Maybe it was because of how much Tolkien gays hyped him up but I can't fricking stand his prose or need to go off on some dumb tangent every other sentence.
I should just finish reading Gormenghast.
I’m sure the OP is bait but enough anons are echoing it that it is fair to say Tolkien can be a lot lengthier than most folks care for. It’s been many years but it took me a long time to get through The Hobbit and I never made it through Fellowship of the Rings.
Great stories but too many tangents and side characters for a single novel. The Peter Jackson trilogy was a great adaptation because it hit the relevant plot points and stayed away from entire chapters involving characters that really go nowhere.
As some other Anons pointed out there are other authors more to the point like American pulp writers like Robert E. Howard.
What is the LotR of the zoomer generation?
skibbidi toilet
I don't want to sound like a contrarian gay, but to modern standards, it doesn't hold up. It's too slow-paced and the magic doesn't follow any apparent rules, and the cultures of all races seem to have stagnated for literal thousands of years, just decaying very slowly and just living day-by-day instead of actually doing something.
But i do appreciate his works and the foundation he and others laid for fantasy to become what it is now. The epic worldbuilding, interesting fantastical creatures, heroic storytelling.
>to modern standards, it doesn't hold up.
moronic zoomer argument. What the frick are modern standards?
You will go to hell.