>On December 1, 1955 Rosa Parks made history by sitting in on the segregated bus in Montgomery, Alabama.
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Most of black history is fake, Rosa Parks was a paid employee of the NAACP and had planned to make a scene so that the NAACP could sue the bus company. Doesn't sound very legal to me
That's totally legal. It's also legal for the Westboro Baptist psychos to provoke people into suing them then winning the lawsuit because of the 1st amendment.
"provoking people to sue you" isn't the same thing as "sending agent provocateurs to your business to get kicked out so they can sue you"
Whatever, it's still legal.
Is it? sounds like fraud
No. It doesn't violate any laws, and is protected by the 1st amendment in the US. The only obstacles might be qualified immunity and the high cost of filing lawsuits.
staging events to sue companies is literally fraud
Deception is a component of civil (not criminal) fraud, but she wasn't lying about anything. She deliberately violated a law and allowed herself to be arrested so she could challenge the law in court. That last bit isn't illegal.
okay but fraud IS illegal
This wasn't fraud, civil or criminal. Civil disobedience in and of itself isn't illegal.
pretty sure if you jump in front of a car to get insurance money that's fraud
so in the same way getting paid to be "harassed" to sue a company is also fraud
Jumping in front of a car to claim insurance money from an accident or setting fire to your building to claim insurance money is illegal because it's deliberate misrepresentation of what happened. Civil disobedience doesn't involve that. It's not like the litigant fights his or her culpability in the act that got them arrested. They challenge the legality of their treatment under the relevant statutes while accepting the fact they broke the law.
It doesn't matter if you're paid.
I'm pretty sure it's a big deal if you're a paid agent provocateur
that's like claiming paid FBI informants making up shit and then the FBI using that as evidence is okay
People like Rosa Parks didn't practice purity politics. They were hardass realists who saw themselves in a political struggle and they wanted to win.
>hardass realists who saw themselves in a political struggle
the projection is almost palpable, it's like I can taste it
not what she did
but certainly the company who paid her to do the job was in violation, if indeed there were such explicit terms.
it begs the question, how many others were simply on a payroll?
>the projection is almost palpable, it's like I can taste it
It's just that the LIBERAL narrative is that Rosa Parks "was just tired and didn't want to give up," and the backwards loser segregationists try to screw with that narrative by claiming that she was actually part of an organized force with a strategy and a plan to carry it out. The thing is, those segregationists are also correct, SHE WAS, and that plan succeeded, but that has always been the case for movements of people struggling against injustice who want to win, because politics is ultimately about strategy, not clout. The liberal narrative exists to recuperate / defang such movements, that is the purpose of liberalism.
>that has always been the case for movements of people struggling against injustice who want to win
uh huh
yes, always
>liberal narrative
damage control
learn
What were they in violation of?
It's fraud to scam companies and private individuals. Black history is fraud
What was fraudulent about it?
Paid agent staging a publicity stunt to be used as propaganda to try and sue a private company and win based on public perception
That isn't fraud, and it's not deceptive. She didn't act like she was just tired and didn't want to stand up. That misconception was spread by folklore and misinformed teachers.
There's nothing about payment that makes what she did any more illegal.
she was an activist protesting the segregation on the buses. that's not illegal.
why am I surprised that the crypto-fascists who want a return of segregation want to make organizing protests illegal?
protest is one thing, being a paid agent to provoke "threatening behavior" against oneself to use as grounds to sue a company is fraud
She wasn’t doing anything other than enforcing the NAACP line that was funded by israeli businessmen.
Individual actors are irrelevant, that line of thinking just demonstrates that liberalism is completely incoherent spontaneous order nonsense.
The """NAACP line""" that buses shouldn't be segregated?
Great! wtf I love Rosa Parks now!
That’s irrelevant. Specific causes were funded by israelites because ethnic heterogeneity lowers the risk of retaliation against their financial/legal crimes.
>whether buses are segregated is irrelevant he says in a thread about Rosa Parks
>proceeds with schizo babble about israelites
It's very telling that you can't actually defend the bus company's actions, you have to make up fake crimes the NAACP committed by getting someone to protest it and proceed to go on and on about a israeli conspiracy theory.
It’s very telling that your model of politics is based on spontaneous order, which is nonsense. There’s far more nuance which you obviously can’t grasp.
>spontaneous order is an equilibrium behavior between self-interested individuals, which is most likely to evolve and survive, obeying the natural selection process "survival of the likeliest".
What on earth does this have to do with me saying there's nothing wrong with protesting segregation?
Because freedom of association isn’t a crime, baiting into moral hazard is.
Damn, if only the government of Alabama could have afforded a lawyer.
Well if you remember correctly Parks' court case crash and burned and went nowhere
>Parks had been charged with a violation of city law. But when Blake had ordered Parks to move, there were no other open seats on the bus. From protests in the early 20th century, Montgomery city law forbid asking someone to move if there wasn’t an open seat. So under city code Parks should not have been asked to give up her seat. That day in court, the prosecutor requested the charges be changed from a violation of city code to state law.
lmao. absolute state of cleetus.
>random quote
okay?
>nooooooooooooooooooooo you can't just bring up historical events on the history board
what a big fat fricking cope.
you know even her wikipedia says her court case failed right?
she's celebrated for being a failure
>she's celebrated for being a failure
Who would have thought Rosa Parks and Donald Trump had so much in common?
Wakanda will never exist.
>only black people despise white trash
you give the rest of us a bad name. always have. perfidious cleetus.
pathetic
Wow you sure owned that chud with a comment like this. Really put him in his place right? Showed him whats what
You seem upset.
Not even remotely as upset as you clearly are.
The main thing she is credited with is helping spark the Montgomery bus boycott. But
>The case became bogged down in the state courts, but the federal Montgomery bus lawsuit Browder v. Gayle resulted in a November 1956 decision that bus segregation is unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[3][4]
Although she was not the person in the case that finally went to the Supreme Court, she became the public face of the bus boycott and bus sit-ins. That's just how history works. Some people get remembered while other people who were just as courageous get forgotten.
I'm glad that you want to spread awareness of other civil rights leaders and activists rather than the few that do get remembered. We should honor them all!
Rather her organization and the NAACP planned her arrest in order to use it as propaganda to start a boycott
thanks anon. the NAACP deserves a lot of credit too for organizing protests, and we can't forget the good they did entirely for just a few individuals!
again, planning an arrest of a paid provocateur to use as propaganda to stage a boycott isn't protesting
Again, if only the government of Alabama could have afforded a legal mind like yours.
again rosa park's court case was a failure
damn I guess she'll never be remembered.
apparently not
Damn I never realized Rosa Parks and Ayn Rand had so much in common.
to be fair ayn rand was far more intelligent and had a few successful books, parks was a scapegoat and quickly kicked to the curb after her ten minutes of fame was over
>ayn rand was far more intelligent
So intelligent she required welfare.
A lot of women advocated for welfare. one of the largest wings of the civil rights movement was black women on welfare since they didn't have to work and could protest all day
Two solid arguments from anons who clearly attended an institution of higher learning. Whatever shall I do?
>rosa parks was objectively perfect because uh, at least she wasn't on welfare
>one of the main political points of the civil rights movement was the avocation of collecting welfare so that they could protest all day
kek
In the 1950s? Most black people were poor, even with the welfare state that existed.
>Most black people were poor
still are
Not as much as in the past. More are at least lower middle class today.
yeah, if you believe government statistics that they make up on the spot
What's wrong with them? Where are the alternatives?
they are no alternatives, the government makes up and sets the statistics for poverty
go to china if you want to see how it works on a larger scale, the government lying about statistics that is
The difference is you can see how the government of the US collects statistics, and you don't "disappear" or get a surprise visit from the police if you ask too many questions about it.
>you can see how the government of the US collects statistics
no you can't, otherwise you wouldn't be claiming that there's less blacks in poverty
And why would that be? Are there more accurate statistics you've collected? Or do you have specific criticisms of the statistics available?
yeah it's called the government doesn't consider Black folk on welfare people so they don't count them in the poverty statistics
do you have a sauce for that?
because you have to be considered in poverty to receive welfare.
also, you do realize the #1 recipients of government welfare are white southerners, right?
does it really fry your brain to such a degree that the official government definition of poverty does not include those on welfare while claiming you need to be in poverty to receive welfare?
I'm still waiting for that source.
when the welfare system was created, called "great society" they needed a way to spin it as a socialist societal welfare policy that reduced poverty, so in order to do that they considered people on welfare "out of poverty". Meaning once you receive government benefits you're no longer considered "poor" in the national registry of poverty levels.
Similarly if you're retired or a dependent/child even if you're not consuming the "non-poor" level of calories it doesn't matter as it's based off your parents. Also the line gets blurry when you throw school breakfasts and lunches into the mix which are also federally funded as "access to meals" is a poverty measure. So basically if the federal government is paying for your food you're not poor anymore and won't show up in the poverty rate.
Which means realistically the only people they're looking at for poverty are working age adults not on welfare, so of course the poverty rate is going to be low with them.
your say-so is not a source. I trust you even less on historical policy programs from the 1960's than I do on modern day statistics.
I don't care if you trust me because I'm right
>so in order to do that they considered people on welfare "out of poverty"
Source?
look it up, also do you have any reason not to believe me?
or are you a shill for welfare for some reason, are you on welfare?
So you don't have a source?
I do it's called the US government
Can you link to where they say it?
yeah
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=The+History+of+the+Official+Poverty+Measure
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Source?
>also, you do realize the #1 recipients of government welfare are white southerners, right?
You forgot businesses. Some industries like agriculture get generous subsidies.
when the wealthy get handouts it isn't called welfare, it's called supporting the job creators.
so you're just going to ignore that the Supreme Court ruled in an identical case that bus segregation was illegal? k
that's a fancy word for a protester. and if she was paid, she still did nothing wrong and the law was still unjust.
I'm curious how it's "propaganda" when she was arrested for not getting up for a white passenger, and both the boycott and the lawsuits tried to end bus segregation.
Are you claiming the buses weren't actually segregated and you couldn't actually get arrested for not getting up for white passengers if you were black?
>I'm curious
He's a moron.
This ruling was also rubbish because the 14th Amendment is designed to protect you from racial discrimination by the state not private parties. Thus a privately owned bus company is not obligated to serve black customers.
That's why the target was state and local law.
Didn't Plessy vs Ferguson establish that segregated buses did not violate the separate but equal doctrine?
and yet here you are today, seething because you had to sit on the bus next to a black person
Segregation is the opposite of freedom of association
This is different than the story they tell though as if the instant someone stepped out of line even without trying to do it deliberately that the laws got enforced.
How many times did people "protest" against the laws and then nothing happened to them? The organizations were explicitl trying to break the laws enough times that some body might actually enforce them such that they could take the case they already wanted to take rather than trying to protect the civil rights of people only trying to live life normally.
There are plenty of laws which you can deliberately challenge right now by breaking them and nothing would happen, either because nobody would ever enforce them, or because there isn't a pre-planned method of doing something if it ends up getting enforced. The idea that "Rosa Parks could have been anyone" is false.
>This is different than the story they tell though as if the instant someone stepped out of line even without trying to do it deliberately that the laws got enforced.
Who? I definitely think this a common misconception, but it's in no way a cover up. There's nothing to cover up. You just outright lied about Parks and the NAACP committing fraud and now you're backpedaling to "this is the story ~~*they*~~ don't want you to know"?
>There are plenty of laws which you can deliberately challenge right now by breaking them and nothing would happen, either because nobody would ever enforce them, or because there isn't a pre-planned method of doing something if it ends up getting enforced. The idea that "Rosa Parks could have been anyone" is false.
I don't see how any of this is relevant, and Rosa Parks didn't do anything special to get arrested. Yes, most black people day-to-day were not arrested for getting on a segregated bus... because they followed the rules, sat at the back of the bus, and got up for white passengers.
Now let's say that the law Parks was arrested for was barely ever enforced. Why does that make it wrong to break that law to get arrested in protest of the law?
You're grasping at straws so much I can barely follow your train of thought.
I had a book about Martin Luther King JR as a child and it definitely said she was just "tired and didn't want to get up". That is probably the fault of the author for not fact checking but the point remains.
>Now let's say that the law Parks was arrested for was barely ever enforced. Why does that make it wrong to break that law to get arrested in protest of the law?
Because there are currently laws set up to discriminate against whites and Asians), not on an individual level but on a collective level through affirmative action. If can violate these laws if you want but most people don't for the same reasons you are listing. The reason the NAACP violated the laws is because they knew they would win the case. You cannot refuse to violate affirmative action on principle and get away with it.
You'd be a lot cooler if you had a source.
he's telling a half-truth to discredit the real story:
>Parks was not the first person to resist bus segregation, but the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) believed that she was the best candidate for seeing through a court challenge after her arrest for civil disobedience in violating Alabama segregation laws, and she helped inspire the Black community to boycott the Montgomery buses for over a year. The case became bogged down in the state courts, but the federal Montgomery bus lawsuit Browder v. Gayle resulted in a November 1956 decision that bus segregation is unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[3][4]
She was acting on behalf of the NAACP in order to make a case against the discriminatory policy. The other anon is trying to make it sound like she did something similar to faking breaking her leg on a bus for monetary damages, which the court case was not about. It was about the constitutionality of segregated buses.
>after her arrest
If she was working for the NAACP before her arrest it still wouldn't matter. It's not illegal to organize protests.
Pretty sure it's not a protest if your goal is to sue a business
Prove it in court, homosexual. Your opinion is irrelevant.
yes, if you break an unjust policy or law on purpose in order to create a court case to attempt to have that policy or law ruled unconstitutional, that is a protest. By arguing this in court, you are admitting you broke said law.
For this to be illegal fraud would have to be committed, like suing the bus for segregating the bus when the bus wasn't actually segregated. It was segregated.
Uh, no. breaking the law so that you get mistreated and then suing for mistreatment isn't "protesting"
She was arrested for violating segregation laws, not private business policies.
>crackers still seething
lmao
blacks will always seethe more when they're told truthfully all their "heroes" were frauds. Tell the average black rosa parks was a paid provocateur and they'll probably rob the nearest gas station
sweet headcanon. there's not a black person alive who seethes over rosa parks.
I know you people typically aren't very literate but read his post again.
Read it again. White trash seethe.
kek stay mad cleetus.
mad at what? black people's ignorance? or your own? I don't think ignorance is something you're supposed to be proud of
Why would I need to read it again? You're the one that can't even correctly comprehend a 2 sentence post, no one said blacks seethe over rosa parks, but obviously they do when people correctly point out how much of a fraud she was, hence the embarassing chimpout sperg meltdown you are having
>can't differentiate past and present tense from context
lmao. keep working on that GED cleetus.
>that GED projection
I guess I have to spell it out for the third time in a row now. I'll say it slowly. You're the one that comprehend a 2 sentence IQfy post, bright boy. And now you're trying some kind of nonsense cope lol, read the post again
You're right, most blacks have no idea who or what the civil rights movement was because they're morons
I never seethed over it, but it was such a huge redpill for me. That and the fact that blacks were more prosperous and civilized before the civil rights movement. Now I believe forced integration was wrong, and was just a ploy to further government overreach. Any integration should happen organically in communities that want it, but I think neither segregation nor integration should be enforced by law, but rather by community norms (although local law is a reflection of community desires and I believe that would be acceptable). Some will disagree, but I see that as the best solution.
>t. mutt
as soon as divorce became legal and welfare was created blacks were doomed
Unfortunately. Now the situation seems irreparable. Most blacks see all the objectively negative things they do and perpetuate as a part of their culture, and won't even listen to well-to-do blacks that tell them the hard truths about why they're a failed micro-culture. How do we fix them? Abolish welfare and no fault divorce? That doesn't seem like it will fix the crime problem because I doubt most of them will even start getting married or move to honest work in the first place. I believe they can be civilized, but only if a majority of them want it and start self policing their communities.
No? It was observed as early as the Civil War. Among the slave population were found some intelligent, ambitious individuals eager for freedom and citizenship and many who had the mental capacity of a 7 year old and barely even knew what day of the week it was.
Eugenics, then?
Why shouldn't whites take advantage of the infrastructure they created?
>they created
Blacks invented buses now according to you lmfao? This is a level of WE WUZZING I have never seen before
I took a "how to protest" class put on by activist types about to how to plan such things and do them safely and Rosa Parks was the first example given on how to do it. The idea of actually having a plan, strategy, follow-through or being part of some... god forbid... organization at all is like heresy to Americans who are used to thinking of themselves as atomized individuals.
whats the source for her being a paid provocateur? I cant find anything on this
if you're white, and riding the bus, then you're a failure.
1955 =/= 2022. In that time buses were entirely respectable and widely used by women to do their errands and shopping. What ruined it was, ironically, desegregation.
can you give me artilces on this plox
also, can you prove that lynchings were justified vigilante actions to actual rapists?
if not then, MEDS!!!!!
No it was car culture
Car culture was a product of that. In the 50s a lot of women didn't even drive; they didn't need to.
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black men were already marginal and once welfare happened there was no reason at all for them to support their women and children so they became completely useless
this was a planned NAACP stunt; they tried a few other times to do this, including with a pregnant teenager but that was bad optics so they decided a respectable middle aged officer worker like RP would work.
It was above the NAACP really, they were just the footsoldiers. The whole civil rights operation was funded into existence by various NGOs/foundations, mostly by israeli donors.
>corporations and foundations met for a fundraising breakfast at the Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan.[4] $800,000 was raised. Donations came from the Ford Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation, and 93 other businesses and foundations in addition to the Taconic Foundation.[1] Few or none of these were Black-owned.[1]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_United_Civil_Rights_Leadership
Civil rights had nothing to do with blacks, it was israelites, it just helped blacks accidentally.
The religious part of civil rights was entirely israelites as no other religious minorities cared.
>literally can’t even read evidence when it’s put in front of him
Leftism is literally just mental illness.
Preplanned stunt that she had tried before, without success.
What if I told you that the man who asked Rosa Parks for her seat was physically disabled?
Lmao that would be peak Black person behavior
>p-please, may I have that seat?? I have a physical disability which would make it difficult for me to navigate further into the bus...
>DAMN SHUT UP YOU b***h ASS CRACKA! I BE TIRED N SHIET! DON'T YOU KNOW DA BLACK KWAAANS STRUGGLE?!?!
>Mmph damn pasty ass mayo monkey, mmmhmm my feets be hurtan an shiet, this is reparashuns
https://www.revolver.news/2022/08/the-fake-history-of-the-20th-century/
>It’s one of the most famous moments in sports history, or 20th Century American history, period. Jackie Robinson, the first player to break the pro baseball color barrier, took the field for the Brooklyn Dodgers on the road against the Cincinnati Reds. A hostile racist crowd poured abuse down onto him. But then, Robinson’s teammate Harold “Pee Wee” Reese shamed and quieted the crowd by walking over to Robinson and putting his arm around him in a gesture of support. It’s a moment immortalized in film, in children’s books, and even in bronze.
>But as the Wall Street Journal revealed in a recent article, the whole episode never happened:
>No newspapers reported the event at the time. In fact, the New York Post said Robinson had been “the toast of the town” in Cincinnati. The Cincinnati Post reported the day after the game: “If anyone had any objection to Jackie’s presence on the field, he failed to make himself heard.” Writing in his weekly newspaper column, Robinson called his visit to Crosley Field “a nice experience.”
>The story of the Cincinnati embrace surfaced decades later in an interview with one of Robinson’s teammates, pitcher Rex Barney. But Barney got one of the key details wrong. He said he was warming up to pitch in the first inning of the game when Reese shut down the hecklers. The fact is, Barney didn’t pitch that day until the seventh inning.
>In interviews I conducted with Robinson’s wife, Rachel, for my book on his breakthrough season, she insisted that no such hug occurred in 1947.
The story sounds too gay to be true anyway.
/pol/troony thread
ITT: hopeless white trash
Seething bootlickers. You’re literally controlled by israeli NGOs.
/pol/troony cope
>You’re literally controlled by israeli NGOs.
But I'm not a Christian.
>Seething bootlickers
he said in a rosa parks thread.
why did she need to sit up front? Looking at OP's pic the back seats look the exact same as the front seats.
>decades later
>RP is elderly and living in poverty in a Detroit apartment with nothing but Social Security for an income
>gets robbed at gunpoint by a brudda
>all the millionaire black celebrities and athletes out there did exactly frick-all to help her
>guess who does bail her out and get her an apartment in a lower crime neighborhood? Red Wings owner Mike Illich.
>gets robbed at gunpoint by a brudda
The guy who robbed her got his ass kicked in prison and had to be put in protective custody. Attacking old ladies isn't something that's going to win you a lot of friends behind bars.
>it's okay the guy got beat up in prison
black logic is an enigma
that's a lot coming from a guy who will defend a 14 year old black kid being brutally murdered because he allegedly whistled at a white lady.
well maybe Emitt Till should have been smarter and not acted fresh in 1950s Mississippi. that's like going to Iran and public defectating on a Koran.
Imagine being such a hopeless waste of existence that Rosa Parks rustles your jimmies.
Not an argument, Tulsatroony.
>implying i'm trying to argue with you
just collecting (You)s and making ya seethe
There was also a black man with her, Robert Freeman, but he is always left out of this story for some reason
You will never have an ethnostate
ISRAEL
You know I'm getting mighty real sick of these Black folk and their demands. At first we were guillabe to buy into their demands in the 1950s for their civil rights and da demand dat weza gets our righterinos.
Well now it's over. When we finally take back this country we're gonna repeal civil rights for their kind and make it hell for them. Unlike most people here I ain't afraid of having white privilege. I'm proud of it and we're gonna show these baboons more white privilege. Africa had plenty of space for another 50 million niggles so start packing Rosa Parks, Tyrone, Lashawn, Isaiah, and Bartholomew because the airports are going to be expecting you soon. Maybe when we get the next president in he can nationalize an airline for the niggies. Sorry lolberts.
We'll call it Black person Airways and it'll be for all the blackies that we are going to be sending to Africa and if they don't leave well perhaps a little destination to a place somewhere in the middle of nowhere might be more affordable for them.
Because I am done I have snapped I have officially snapped. Civil rights is over. We tried it for 70 years and is failed. We're going to repeal the Supreme Court I know was going to repeal it because deep down they know that they fricked up.
Everything the Stone through Berger Courts did was a massive frick-up.
American history be like: A woman sat on a chair.
ITT: People whose ancestors came to America less than a century ago tell blacks who have been here since the 1500's to "go back".
this lmao. I'm a 4th generation immigrant but no one would think it because I'm white. There's people who's family's were chinese and japanese who've been here longer than my family.