>open website
>looks so simple it could be done in 10kb of pure html and css
>view source code
>8mb of obscure, unformated javascript behind it
why are they like this? isn't it legitimately easier and faster to just use html and css? what are the benefits of bloatmaxxing?
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If a single tool you've ever learned is a microscope, might as well hammer nails with it.
I completely agree with you, it's incredibly exhausting
>view source code
>unformated javascript behind it
don't tell me you're referring to the source in your browser? you do realize that most websites are server rendered, right? you seriously cannot be THAT moronic
idk dued you should see the amount of json manifests they shovel at you to render jpegs in the browser these days
>you do realize that most websites are server rendered, right?
and they can't render html? look up what php stands for
I don't get it
>he doesn't get it
This anon set up camp on top of mount Dunning-Kruger
Please make your blogs using nothing heavier than liquid jekyll
Nobody cares, moron!
ofc, most websites now even the simple ones uses frameworks and are overengineered by a lot, and nobody cares to optimize the space, due the storage availability and its cheap cost! I would do the same, because it saves time and you get better developer experience!
And, as I said, nobody cares, keep seething over your autistic perfectionist optimizist mentall illness!
500 lines of code vs 80k lines of code I wonder what is the better developer experience you absolute moron
You tell him sir
> 500 lines of code vs 80k lines of code I wonder what is the better developer experience you absolute moron
Tell me you are no coder, without telling me I've never built a functional web app ever in my life.
you absolutely think, people write every single character rendered in the client side by themselves in every web app.
>people write every single character rendered in the client side by themselves in every web app.
Maybe they should. Web > 1.0 was a mistake.
Bloatmaxxed software will always be harder to maintain, especially when the person who initially made it stops working on it and then the next person needs to pick it up. it seems you never worked in a real company with real software
As I said, not my problem of what other engineers will suffer for maintaining the code, all I care about really is my own mental health and my developing experience.
Maintaining web apps that are built using modern frameworks is much more easier and cheaper than maintaining some plain Vanilla JS web app.
Anons are that dumb to reinvent the wheel to feel a little bit special over normalgays.
>all I care about is myself
obviously, bloaty
Sounds like a egotist.
>muh mental health
and a homosexual.
> Maintaining web apps that are built using modern frameworks is much more easier and cheaper than maintaining some plain Vanilla JS web app.
> Anons are that dumb to reinvent the wheel to feel a little bit special over normalgays.
you didn't refute this, anon
> why?
you don't have an answer, you just want to reinvent the wheel and not innovate
Codemonkey
making simple websites isn't reinventing the wheel you fricking moron. millions of people have done it before and you can literally just copy paste some templates together to get a simple, dynamic website. using tons of frameworks and other bloat doesn't magically make development easier unless you have a very niche case and there is a framework for exactly that niche
You don't need JS nor to reinvente the wheel for what OP is talking about, that's why. The simplest thing laid down a long time ago is enough.
thats the thing, you dont need to maintain a vanilla js web app. it just works once it starts working and never stops working because its not made by homosexualS with brain damage from engineer's dilemma stress compounding with job insecurity
webshitters have done nothing but reinvent the wheel at the expense of everyone else and their hardware for 20 years now
>he doesn't know
>we can waste resources, we have a lot of them
Climate change: "Not so fast!"
You do know that the more resource intensive a task is on a computer, the more power it uses right? Gigawatts of power are wasted each year due to inefficient computing. Eventually making computing tasks, including browsing the internet, will have to be made less wasteful whether you like it or not.
tell me one reason, why would I sacrifice my amazing great developer experience over some emission of CO2 that'll impact some humans decades after??
I simply don't care, and it does matter what source of energy people are using not what's being used with it
Educate yourself, Anon
Kicking the can down the road is the exact reason why things are getting worse
notice to them how it's "some humans" and not "my descendents" or "my community's descendents". This person is cut off from society.
Climate change is fake, and it isn't caused by emission of CO2. The Sun is getting bigger and larger, that's is getting hotter here in earth, it's over and we can't solve this problem without the intervention of some supernatural beings, so it's over! just live your life without thinkmaxxing about sustainability.
found the /misc/tard!
Read The Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion
Nothing will ever improve. It's all world wide enslavement from here on out.
>tell me one reason, why would I sacrifice my amazing great developer experience over some emission of CO2 that'll impact some humans decades after??
Because once the switch to renewables happens, the power grid will simply be unable to cope with power-hungry hardware all over the place. The future will be low-power and relatively weak ARM or RISC-V computers, usually portable ones, that will not be able to handle Javascript-heavy webpages as well as x86 can without degrading the user experience (i.e. introducing stuttering and lag or intense battery usage.) Thus you will have no choice but to optimize or else you will lose customers.
>RISC-V eats x10 more energy to be x6 faster
>low power
Could be memed
He said a plain HTML like page, not an "app". There was a guy who made a website with recipes with that mindset.
Haha look at all the indians in this thread getting mad because you pointed out their bloated slop. No way any actual human thinks that bloat is better.
The people you're talking about haven't heard of "html".
It's getting more and more ridiculous. I mean I feel bad for using WordPress for onepagers, and then I look out there only to find onepagers built with fully fleshed out webapp frameworks ...
if all I needed was one page I'd just use C preprocessor as a templating engine.
My whole website is 6.7Mb, is this good?
only if 6.7Mb of it are images.
>pure html and css
get with the times granpa, frontends need to be built with react and backends with python
>use noscript
>every website relies on resources from 30 other sites to load and function
>everything is tracked by Google and usually several other sites
why? fricking why? web 1.0 just werked
> noooo, you have to heckin optimise all your javascript, html and css and use webp to save bandwidth, make sure to you a basednode pipeline to minify, obfuscate and frickuscate all the fileronees so the goycattle can have a a have a nice fast experience even though you're paid slave wages by mr shekelberg
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