It's actually worse than reddit now in terms of the pseudo intellectual herd signalling. All the insightful posters left around 2015-2017. That said, I still read it hoping it will one day be interesting again. Kind of like IQfy..
It’s fAr FaR left on there, blue-pilled dunning krugers that do not entertain that they’re wrong in any shape or capacity.
I look for the downvoted comments, they’re usually the only ones with a semblance of intellect.
How many people "on the global scale" think a man in a dress is a woman?
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They appreciate that homosexuals are completely unrelated to let or right wing.
Only americans and other people who have been brainwashed into pointless divisions think: >I don't like gays so I can't vote for reasonable economic policy
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who do i vote for if i hate americans
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It depends. Do you prefer Mexicans and Somalis?
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Most people don't even care enough about trannies to have an opinion on them.
"Trans rights" autism is largely an American liberal (i.e. centrist) obsession
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Virtually all western lefties care about whatever flavor of the month woke is popular. Even the socalistist ones.
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so do western righties, except their "flavor of the month woke" is always defending some karen who said racist shit in public, or defending terrorists and mass shooters
Reddit has no self awareness nor any sign of intelligence
Psueds on orange site atleast can argue some point, although they're infected with the same woke mentality, thus they lose sight of reality whenever it crosses the threshold
>Cant be worse than reddit lmao
this you cannot beat them at cringe npc arrogance and passive agressivnes.They have been prerfecting that skill for years competitively.
There is still knowledge to be gained from HN, but you have to stay away from all the threads with python, go, javascript etc in the name. Use the search function to find old interesting threads.
Do you have a source to back up your claim? '
According to [1] and [2] I'm pretty sure you are a nazi and according to [3] [4] [5] nazis should be punched.
Also have you heard of rust [6] its a safe [7] [8] [9] alternative to C++ and C [10].
Man using simple languages is hard [11], don't use shell, use python [12], you will use containers [13] [14] [15], free software just can't work [16] [17] [18] [19]
loooooooooooong woooooooooords iiiiiii ammmmmmmm annnnnnnnnnnnn exxxxxxperrrt oooooon thiiiiiiis usssssssseelessssssss shiiiiiiiiiit fraaaaaaaaaaamewoooooork [20] [21] hhhhhhhheeeeeeyyy seeeeeee thiiiiiis obvioossssssssu vaaaaaapor waaaaaaaaaaare iiiiiiiiiiittttttsssss revoooooolutionaaaaaaaarrrry [22] [23]
I got banned from reddit for saying J.K. Rowling made a legitimate point. I said the same thing on HN, some guy responded calling me a names, and Dang told that guy to cut that shit out.
>IQfy on HN, 2022: >awful these days, used to be so much better >IQfy on IQfy, 2016: >awful these days, used to be so much better >IQfy on IQfy 2010: >awful these days, used to be so much better >Socrates on modern youth, 401 BC: >awful these days, used to be so much better
IQfy is also going to shit, with paid shills and (you)gays that do it for free. But at least it's still moronic (ie. /misc/cucks hating on blacks and the lgbtq, meanwhile /gif/ is full of blacked and trap porn). And we all know it's moronic and we all say what we want. And that's why I love you guys.
>people use orange site to pretend they are smart.
Yes they pretend that are smart but in reality are moronic. >people use IQfy to pretend to be moronic.
Just pretend that are moronic but in reality are very smart
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>IQfy users >but in reality are very smart
pick one
technical discussion on orangesite is better than IQfy
political discussion on orangesite is somehow way worse than IQfy
computer programmers should not be allowed to vote or have opinions on anything related to actual humans
It's my most visited site. It loads fast and every once in a while it has something you won't find anywhere else with the rest being somewhat interesting.
Sometimes good articles are posted and MAAAYBE if you're lucky some big name in whatever tech space you're into might chime in and comment, like an impromptu AmA.
Being said that I'd say their userbase is generally worse than IQfy and IQfy combined.
I know. There are a lot of mailing lists for programs, and relatively few for discussion forums for (i.e plan9fans, tuhs etc.)
But around stuff like C in general it's kinda fragmented into irc/compilers mailing lists/stack
And for something like x86-64 I'm not sure anything is active period.
Sometimes good articles are posted and MAAAYBE if you're lucky some big name in whatever tech space you're into might chime in and comment, like an impromptu AmA.
Being said that I'd say their userbase is generally worse than IQfy and IQfy combined.
I miss n-gate
>n=gate
oh shit, I just remember it was a thing. One day the rss feed stopped updating, then I switched computers and forgot to set it up again. Anyone knows what happened to him? Is he dead?
Unfortunately anon, very few places actually have protections against ex post facto legislation. It's generally avoided (for obvious reasons), but as more and more people want daddy.gov to look after them, you'll see it invoked for the children/rape victims/poor brown people more and more often.
Every now amd again you see a poster there trying to reveal their power level. Im absolutely convinced that person is trolling because that is over the top Reddit energy
I actually like it. The content and discussions i find there are more qualitative than anything in plebbit and IQfy. I mostly do read databases related threads.
I dunno, I kind of like HN, mostly because of the population on 40+ boomers who have more than 2 decades of experience and have war stories of wringing out the last cycles of performance from prehistoric hardware, and who are ready to shit on JS frameworks which repackage 40 year old concepts with shiny zoomer marketing.
None of you morons actually know how to use that site. There are filters that you can add to the url and then bookmark it so you have a perfect news feed. I check mine each morning before work and I never see clickbait articles anymore. Youre welcome. >but the comments are moronic
You are moronic if you need to read comments to form an opinion. HN is a news aggregator so the comments section is bloat. Read the articles yourself.
I check it probably twice a day. Back in 2010 I liked it a lot but over the years it's become filthy pajeets and karma prostitutes. The guys who back in the forum days would have like 100,000 posts are the kind of posters you find on hn.
Occasionally there's something interesting but I rarely click anything posted there
Victim of it's own success
The new Yorker ran a good piece on it a couple years ago
Here https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/the-lonely-work-of-moderating-hacker-news
ngate was pretty good while it lasted but I guess even mocking hners got too depressing when they continue to exhibit less and less self awareness.
I wish a tank would drive over every Indian.
pretty much every day. it has quite an eclectic selection of links along with the usual tech stuff to keep you up-to-date with the industry. yeah, the commenters can be extremely autistic and overly pedantic, but sometimes there's some pretty insightful viewpoints. more than once i've come away from them and learned something new.
it beats screeching about trannies and OS flamebait 24/7, that's for sure.
I did for a while, but I got sick of most of the news articles after awhile. There's too much stupid shilling and typical journalist bullshit. And it's not like the comments are any good either. >-b-but IQfy is bad too
At least IQfy is sometimes funny or entertaining.
Sometimes a commenter shows up claiming to be the one who made the thing that the article is about and can share their experiences, which is pretty cool and doesn't happen as often anywhere else. Otherwise, hackernews quality has dropped precipitously during the past few years. It's not much different from reddit now. At least there's less memes.
lobster's userbase is somehow even more cancerous than HN, however they do a much better job of sticking to actual technology instead of endless politics.
Yesterday I opened it first time in 2 years. And... nothing changed, same discussions, same pseudo intellectual shit. Same bullshit, so nothing of value was lost. I much prefer to read my house walls
lobster's userbase is somehow even more cancerous than HN, however they do a much better job of sticking to actual technology instead of endless politics.
I take a quick max 10 minute gander every day. Found a few useful libs/apps/methods in there.
Most of the userbase are braindead trend chasing sheep or corporate dicksuckers
but theres a small amount of tinfoil hat doomer tech enjoyers in there and their comments are usually nice.
The major problem with hacker news is that almost none of them are hackers in any real sense, sure some of them can program, but I just saw a comment from somebody who said they love (binutils) assembly since they were ten, but since it isn't used in industry they don't use it.
How much of a fricking cuck do you have to be to give up real hacking and what you love, to do DevOps when programming is a trade that isn't even suited to the indentured servitude we call employment.
If there's no job writing assembly, MAKE IT.
I've daily browsed HN for around 10 years now and I've gone from being able to spend hours reading the posts and comments to literally a 2 minute scan and rarely clicking on a link or reading the comments. It's basically become a normie tech news aggregator with low value comments. Unironcally smaller niche tech subreddits and OG individual blogs are better.
Almost never, the comments are the best part but they're a pain to browse, typically I use the search function to know what "more informed" people think on a particular subject.
One useful site I found in there is: https://yahnd.com/books/
It parses comments looking for book recommendations, ranks them and you can read the comment that recommended the book. It's good stuff.
>It parses comments looking for book recommendations
not very well, it's missing 3 or 4 recent one's that people type as 'his "book title" was less about'
>someone posts a link critical of China >1000s of chinks flock to the comment section to talk about how China isn’t bad because America is bad but they don’t want to live in China and how dare you bring up Taiwan because America won’t let Texas sucede either >someone posts a link critical of India or the pajeet culture >1000s of poos block up the comment section posting about how the caste system never existed and btw they’re actually discriminated against for being brahmins
Its_all_so_tiring.webp
It's actually heterosexuals who started the mental illness by practicing recreational sex. Sex is for procreation. Heterosexuals also invented anal sex and oral sex. They always try to pass the blame off onto homosexuals, but any intelligent person can see through their lies.
Some animal species only have sex once in their lives, it lasts less than a minute, and then they die after laying eggs. Heterosexuals will never reach that level of peak efficiency.
How many people "on the global scale" think a man in a dress is a woman?
A man in a dress is still a man. A trans woman is a woman though, no matter what clothes she's wearing.
>Move somewhere that banned abortion and rape women to get offspring then have a nice day in jail. >Peak efficiency.
If you haven't done this you are a gay and a hypocrite.
i only browse it ocassionally, at work. it's one of the few sites i'm comfortable with if somebody catches me, if i used IQfy anyone passing by would notice some anime or worse picture inmediatly. also it's the right amount of good, orange site has at most a few interesting things at any given point so i don't waste too much time in it before going back to work. when i worked from home sometimes i play videogames and it got out of hand too quickly
most every day. and I don't feel bad about it, either. 90% of the time I don't bother with the comments section. I don't like that half the subs are paywalled, though.
>seem perfectly happy with their situation so it isn't any of the government's business.
Normal people would be happy to shoot homosexuala so we should by this logic >I don't believe in forcing health care on people who don't want or need it.
Average moronic no-vaxxer is also a homosexual enabler how surprising
every work day
and never on a weekend
It's actually worse than reddit now in terms of the pseudo intellectual herd signalling. All the insightful posters left around 2015-2017. That said, I still read it hoping it will one day be interesting again. Kind of like IQfy..
>Kind of like IQfy..
Exactly like IQfy:
It’s fAr FaR left on there, blue-pilled dunning krugers that do not entertain that they’re wrong in any shape or capacity.
I look for the downvoted comments, they’re usually the only ones with a semblance of intellect.
Everything seems far left if you are far right
On the global scale of politics those silicon valley soiboiy are at best centrists
How many people "on the global scale" think a man in a dress is a woman?
They appreciate that homosexuals are completely unrelated to let or right wing.
Only americans and other people who have been brainwashed into pointless divisions think:
>I don't like gays so I can't vote for reasonable economic policy
who do i vote for if i hate americans
It depends. Do you prefer Mexicans and Somalis?
Most people don't even care enough about trannies to have an opinion on them.
"Trans rights" autism is largely an American liberal (i.e. centrist) obsession
Virtually all western lefties care about whatever flavor of the month woke is popular. Even the socalistist ones.
so do western righties, except their "flavor of the month woke" is always defending some karen who said racist shit in public, or defending terrorists and mass shooters
okay
Exactly like IQfy
Cant be worse than reddit lmao
Reddit has no self awareness nor any sign of intelligence
Psueds on orange site atleast can argue some point, although they're infected with the same woke mentality, thus they lose sight of reality whenever it crosses the threshold
true
they even used to link IQfy threads making fun of them
reddit is beyond hopeless
It makes sense when you realise that a Venn diagram of IQfytards, orangesite losers and Plebbitors has an e < 0.01.
>Cant be worse than reddit lmao
this you cannot beat them at cringe npc arrogance and passive agressivnes.They have been prerfecting that skill for years competitively.
Honestly, it's just (tech) reddit with a flatter bell curve.
Yeah there was a time when half of the articles were top tier. It was one of the most procrastinator-friendly websites.
Best post in this thread.
There is still knowledge to be gained from HN, but you have to stay away from all the threads with python, go, javascript etc in the name. Use the search function to find old interesting threads.
Do you have a source to back up your claim? '
According to [1] and [2] I'm pretty sure you are a nazi and according to [3] [4] [5] nazis should be punched.
Also have you heard of rust [6] its a safe [7] [8] [9] alternative to C++ and C [10].
Man using simple languages is hard [11], don't use shell, use python [12], you will use containers [13] [14] [15], free software just can't work [16] [17] [18] [19]
loooooooooooong woooooooooords iiiiiii ammmmmmmm annnnnnnnnnnnn exxxxxxperrrt oooooon thiiiiiiis usssssssseelessssssss shiiiiiiiiiit fraaaaaaaaaaamewoooooork [20] [21] hhhhhhhheeeeeeyyy seeeeeee thiiiiiis obvioossssssssu vaaaaaapor waaaaaaaaaaare iiiiiiiiiiittttttsssss revoooooolutionaaaaaaaarrrry [22] [23]
Like clockwork.
Also, a proprietarygay which are dime-a-dozen on "hacker" news.
I got banned from reddit for saying J.K. Rowling made a legitimate point. I said the same thing on HN, some guy responded calling me a names, and Dang told that guy to cut that shit out.
>IQfy on HN, 2022:
>awful these days, used to be so much better
>IQfy on IQfy, 2016:
>awful these days, used to be so much better
>IQfy on IQfy 2010:
>awful these days, used to be so much better
>Socrates on modern youth, 401 BC:
>awful these days, used to be so much better
All correct
>how often do you read hackernews
if it happens to come up during a search i'll read it to see if there's anything useful (usually there isn't)
>That said, I still read it hoping it will one day be interesting again
this is just the entirety of the internet at this point
IQfy is also going to shit, with paid shills and (you)gays that do it for free. But at least it's still moronic (ie. /misc/cucks hating on blacks and the lgbtq, meanwhile /gif/ is full of blacked and trap porn). And we all know it's moronic and we all say what we want. And that's why I love you guys.
people use orange site to pretend they are smart.
people use IQfy to pretend to be moronic.
welcome newfriend, have you tried using this site correctly?
>people use orange site to pretend they are smart.
Yes they pretend that are smart but in reality are moronic.
>people use IQfy to pretend to be moronic.
Just pretend that are moronic but in reality are very smart
>IQfy users
>but in reality are very smart
pick one
Pretend?
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. And the newbies don't even shitpost, they just post shit.
There are also other factors...
people who read IQfy posts literally are literally moronic.
oh no...
technical discussion on orangesite is better than IQfy
political discussion on orangesite is somehow way worse than IQfy
computer programmers should not be allowed to vote or have opinions on anything related to actual humans
Never
it's unironically way worst than Reddit.
It's my most visited site. It loads fast and every once in a while it has something you won't find anywhere else with the rest being somewhat interesting.
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Sometimes good articles are posted and MAAAYBE if you're lucky some big name in whatever tech space you're into might chime in and comment, like an impromptu AmA.
Being said that I'd say their userbase is generally worse than IQfy and IQfy combined.
I miss n-gate
n-gate had to quite because he was revealing to much about his own equally mockable beliefs and was on the verge of becoming a lolcow himself.
someone should train an ai on his posts to generate more.
I miss usenet, where you could actually see real experts talk.
there are still mailing lists which have that old school feel. in fact i wonder if usenet still has a userbase other than for piracy.
I know. There are a lot of mailing lists for programs, and relatively few for discussion forums for (i.e plan9fans, tuhs etc.)
But around stuff like C in general it's kinda fragmented into irc/compilers mailing lists/stack
And for something like x86-64 I'm not sure anything is active period.
never. I miss n-gate however
>n=gate
oh shit, I just remember it was a thing. One day the rss feed stopped updating, then I switched computers and forgot to set it up again. Anyone knows what happened to him? Is he dead?
He made a tweet a little while back saying he wasn't dead and had to "catch up", but nothing since.
I'd shit myself if this wasn't posted.
Jesus christ, what an obnoxious site.
Good lord. Just use privoxy tho.
besides the 5G shit, i don't see the problem
>i don't see the problem
literally all you can see is the problem
are you moron
it's a video, click play
truly amazing work being shown on le orange site these days
holy shit
ahahaha
the CHAD dynamic GUI slider as an afterthought to his pure js backend / frontend.
if this was serverless lambda invocations this webm probably costs someone somewhere $1
Kek. Even I'm not that moronic.
Lol
>retroactively illegal
This is literally not possible in any modern criminal law system lmao
Nullum crimen sine praevia lege, fricktard.
This literally happened after WWII to the nazis.
Unfortunately anon, very few places actually have protections against ex post facto legislation. It's generally avoided (for obvious reasons), but as more and more people want daddy.gov to look after them, you'll see it invoked for the children/rape victims/poor brown people more and more often.
>troper tales
jesus fricking christ
>Not letting us get abortions is literally rape
Oh wait Hitler.
Whatever
Every now amd again you see a poster there trying to reveal their power level. Im absolutely convinced that person is trolling because that is over the top Reddit energy
>Every now amd again you see a poster [on HN] trying to reveal their power level.
This is my hobby.
I actually like it. The content and discussions i find there are more qualitative than anything in plebbit and IQfy. I mostly do read databases related threads.
It's just arrogant pajeets humble bragging/trying to shill their own project
I dunno, I kind of like HN, mostly because of the population on 40+ boomers who have more than 2 decades of experience and have war stories of wringing out the last cycles of performance from prehistoric hardware, and who are ready to shit on JS frameworks which repackage 40 year old concepts with shiny zoomer marketing.
>reddit for tech literate people
what's the point
hear about the newest javascript frameworks to avoid quicker
None of you morons actually know how to use that site. There are filters that you can add to the url and then bookmark it so you have a perfect news feed. I check mine each morning before work and I never see clickbait articles anymore. Youre welcome.
>but the comments are moronic
You are moronic if you need to read comments to form an opinion. HN is a news aggregator so the comments section is bloat. Read the articles yourself.
I check it probably twice a day. Back in 2010 I liked it a lot but over the years it's become filthy pajeets and karma prostitutes. The guys who back in the forum days would have like 100,000 posts are the kind of posters you find on hn.
Occasionally there's something interesting but I rarely click anything posted there
Victim of it's own success
The new Yorker ran a good piece on it a couple years ago
Here https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/the-lonely-work-of-moderating-hacker-news
ngate was pretty good while it lasted but I guess even mocking hners got too depressing when they continue to exhibit less and less self awareness.
I wish a tank would drive over every Indian.
Never. I’m not gay.
>orange site bad
It's literally the place where that Voltaire quote about pretending to be a moron actually came from
and more specifically it was talking about shitposting right here
More often than I should
nah, I get my daily dose of brainlet shit on this board
Never because I never read anything tech related besides shitposting here.
When I take a shit. It has interesting stuff that is not tech related sometimes.
I've never visited
pretty much every day. it has quite an eclectic selection of links along with the usual tech stuff to keep you up-to-date with the industry. yeah, the commenters can be extremely autistic and overly pedantic, but sometimes there's some pretty insightful viewpoints. more than once i've come away from them and learned something new.
it beats screeching about trannies and OS flamebait 24/7, that's for sure.
I did for a while, but I got sick of most of the news articles after awhile. There's too much stupid shilling and typical journalist bullshit. And it's not like the comments are any good either.
>-b-but IQfy is bad too
At least IQfy is sometimes funny or entertaining.
Sometimes a commenter shows up claiming to be the one who made the thing that the article is about and can share their experiences, which is pretty cool and doesn't happen as often anywhere else. Otherwise, hackernews quality has dropped precipitously during the past few years. It's not much different from reddit now. At least there's less memes.
too often because I'm terminally bored at work
Every day to keep up with new technologies.
Why would you read cyberantifa reddit?
yeah contrarians hate that site. but its still somewhat interesting to browse and miles ahead of this shithole.
Fairly often. It's like IQfy that you should never, ever read the comments though.
you should be using the hacker newsletter. read that for 30 min a day. curates all the shit out.
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Use lobste.rs instead.
lobster's userbase is somehow even more cancerous than HN, however they do a much better job of sticking to actual technology instead of endless politics.
Yesterday I opened it first time in 2 years. And... nothing changed, same discussions, same pseudo intellectual shit. Same bullshit, so nothing of value was lost. I much prefer to read my house walls
Why are there so many fricking threads about this site lately?
I started because the name sounded cool, I stopped because it's even blander than reddit, absolutely useless information, absolutely useless comments
What about Lobsters? Is it based?
I discovered it the other day and seems like an improved reddit/HN.
I like the transparency in moderation:
> https://lobste.rs/moderations
See
.
More technical, still got taken over by lefties. Better moderation usually.
>impliying that they don't know exactly what they are doing
I can't believe this kind of signaling isn't called out for what it is.
what is this signaling for? i can superficially tell that it's about infantilizing and removing responsibility from programmers, but enlighten me
In short, political larpers.
In long
I take a quick max 10 minute gander every day. Found a few useful libs/apps/methods in there.
Most of the userbase are braindead trend chasing sheep or corporate dicksuckers
but theres a small amount of tinfoil hat doomer tech enjoyers in there and their comments are usually nice.
The major problem with hacker news is that almost none of them are hackers in any real sense, sure some of them can program, but I just saw a comment from somebody who said they love (binutils) assembly since they were ten, but since it isn't used in industry they don't use it.
How much of a fricking cuck do you have to be to give up real hacking and what you love, to do DevOps when programming is a trade that isn't even suited to the indentured servitude we call employment.
If there's no job writing assembly, MAKE IT.
I've daily browsed HN for around 10 years now and I've gone from being able to spend hours reading the posts and comments to literally a 2 minute scan and rarely clicking on a link or reading the comments. It's basically become a normie tech news aggregator with low value comments. Unironcally smaller niche tech subreddits and OG individual blogs are better.
>Unironcally smaller niche tech subreddits
Which ones? Those with less than 100k subs?
Almost never, the comments are the best part but they're a pain to browse, typically I use the search function to know what "more informed" people think on a particular subject.
One useful site I found in there is: https://yahnd.com/books/
It parses comments looking for book recommendations, ranks them and you can read the comment that recommended the book. It's good stuff.
>It parses comments looking for book recommendations
not very well, it's missing 3 or 4 recent one's that people type as 'his "book title" was less about'
i am on/off with this site. it has it's moments like IQfy, bit less raw than IQfy.
Less Angst on hackernews.
What's the alternative
there are only more pozzed alternatives, not long until it follows so for now you just have to filter the news sites and all the women blog simping.
>someone posts a link critical of China
>1000s of chinks flock to the comment section to talk about how China isn’t bad because America is bad but they don’t want to live in China and how dare you bring up Taiwan because America won’t let Texas sucede either
>someone posts a link critical of India or the pajeet culture
>1000s of poos block up the comment section posting about how the caste system never existed and btw they’re actually discriminated against for being brahmins
Its_all_so_tiring.webp
It's actually heterosexuals who started the mental illness by practicing recreational sex. Sex is for procreation. Heterosexuals also invented anal sex and oral sex. They always try to pass the blame off onto homosexuals, but any intelligent person can see through their lies.
Some animal species only have sex once in their lives, it lasts less than a minute, and then they die after laying eggs. Heterosexuals will never reach that level of peak efficiency.
A man in a dress is still a man. A trans woman is a woman though, no matter what clothes she's wearing.
>Move somewhere that banned abortion and rape women to get offspring then have a nice day in jail.
>Peak efficiency.
If you haven't done this you are a gay and a hypocrite.
Banning abortion won't help. The woman has to lay the eggs the next day after sex and then she also has to kill herself.
>The woman has to lay the eggs the next day after sex and then she also has to kill herself.
i only browse it ocassionally, at work. it's one of the few sites i'm comfortable with if somebody catches me, if i used IQfy anyone passing by would notice some anime or worse picture inmediatly. also it's the right amount of good, orange site has at most a few interesting things at any given point so i don't waste too much time in it before going back to work. when i worked from home sometimes i play videogames and it got out of hand too quickly
most every day. and I don't feel bad about it, either. 90% of the time I don't bother with the comments section. I don't like that half the subs are paywalled, though.
When it came up on search results
Every day.
I'm trans btw
>seem perfectly happy with their situation so it isn't any of the government's business.
Normal people would be happy to shoot homosexuala so we should by this logic
>I don't believe in forcing health care on people who don't want or need it.
Average moronic no-vaxxer is also a homosexual enabler how surprising
>Would be happy with mass murder and genocide
>Normal people
Literally no