This is ridiculous, stop having a victim mentality.
As an anglo, no one hates Hispanics, we just live in a time where the US (an extension of the UK) is the dominant world power in a very connected and homogenized world and therefore so is English.
In the times of the Roman Empire did people complain because "Latins hate our writing so Greek literature is never discussed"?
No. In the future a new Empire will rise, and its books will then take priority over English ones, but not because of hate.
It's not about language. It's about ethnicity and culture. There is a contempt and sometimes blatant hatred on the part of some IQfyizens. Of course not the cultured ones such as yourself but there are users who very much hate Hispanic culture (in this case literature) for /misc/-related reasons. But whatever.
>This is ridiculous, stop having a victim mentality.
Ok, im going to be shutting up,then already, just because you say so, mr Anglo.
It's ironic, that you say that what he's saying is ridiculous, while proving he's point since the first paragraph.
wrong. anglos hate hispanics because theyre incompetent, cant control their minorities, and resulted in the mestizo abominations that threaten our borders.
It's not about language. It's about ethnicity and culture. There is a contempt and sometimes blatant hatred on the part of some IQfyizens. Of course not the cultured ones such as yourself but there are users who very much hate Hispanic culture (in this case literature) for /misc/-related reasons. But whatever.
i am cultured and read don quixote in castilian and in various translations, but that only gives me more reason to hate hispanics for sinking so low.
what the frick are you even talking about? not even anglos can control their own
2 months ago
Anonymous
the usa and latam existed for roughly the same amount of time, yet latam is majority mestizo while the usa is majority white, and USAs white women overwhelmingly marry white even while constantly being bombarded with racemixing propaganda. think about that.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Mixing in the US is at higher levels than in the past. It was unthinkable to see a white woman with a black man on the street in the 60s, now it's accepted and more common than before. I don't know why you think things can change overnight, even considering blacks are a much smaller and poorer population.
2 months ago
Anonymous
please tell everyone how mixing benefits the usa. it mixes a population of blacks with an average 80 iq with whites who average 100 iq.
blacks are less moral. they dont have the integrity to support their mates and children. 70% of black mothers are unwed.
blacks even with affirmative action cannot compete in the same job market. being average 80 iq prevents them from access to the best jobs, and because they breed more children than they can support, they become tempted by crime and gangs to gain money, which makes the quality of life worse for everyone around them.
white women understand this, and the ones who ignore the warning signs usually become single mothers themselves, with 90 iq mulatto children who hate themselves because their black half marks them as too violent and irresponsible for real white society, which they desperately aspire to.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I never said it was beneficial or not. I'm telling you it's more common than in the past.
2 months ago
Anonymous
are you only capable of pointing out the obvious? mulatto behavior.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You seem to be part of an imaginary schizo discussion. Good luck.
2 months ago
Anonymous
you dont add anything, just like blacks and mulattos dont. good day to you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Like added anything of worth other than trite /misc/ talking points.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Like you*
2 months ago
Anonymous
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/iq%20mulatto%20single%20mother/
my talking points arent common, and thats because i dont use pol, and pollacks cant think. if they were trite there should be thousands of posts about the same group of topics like mine.
my talking points were on point unlike most political discussion. i described the topical problem accurately because im high iq.
all that remains to be seen is:
what do you add?
besides stating the obvious.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Generic anti-black hatred, advocacy for white supremacy, fear of mixing are all basic b***h /misc/ talking points. This isn't enlightening and you're delusional for thinking this is something new in online political discussions. Check out rw twitter or /misc/ any day.
2 months ago
Anonymous
my posts are good and better than any political discussion you could offer. all you can do is state the obvious at a 90 iq level.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Old spanish is just latin.
2 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's not. It means something specific.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Spanish
2 months ago
Anonymous
do you think it being more common than the past means it happens a lot? despite all of blackrock's esg propaganda, it is still by far the rarest couple type whereas wm/wf is still by far the most common couple type and people still find it disgusting despite being forced to pretend it's normal. meanwhile it was encouraged and sometimes even mandated by latin american governments
Hate was the wrong word, but Anglos definitely have a poor view of Hispanics. The problem is that Hispanics also have a poor view of Anglos, so a lack of cultural connection is the expected result.
As a traveller hispanics have been far more cultured and well read than Americans, they're also unambitious, so there can be no public evidence of it
It's not about language. It's about ethnicity and culture. There is a contempt and sometimes blatant hatred on the part of some IQfyizens. Of course not the cultured ones such as yourself but there are users who very much hate Hispanic culture (in this case literature) for /misc/-related reasons. But whatever.
What a cope. Nobody much cares. But latin america is a peripheral region with no relevant cultural connection. Spain itself was already the black sheep of western europe with its overly catholic moronation, and when you combine that with amerindians the resulting culture is going to be hyper-niche.
Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature.
If you consider not noticing or caring about something to be the same as contempt you're a delusional egomaniac
2 months ago
Anonymous
When someone who's European/American says something like: >Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature.
It's obviously coming from a place of contempt due to how dishonest it is.
>Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature
This is a really bad exaggeration, hispanic literature has had a much bigger influence than thai literature. How many thai authors are universally famous, how many of them have won nobel prizes? It’s true that to the current zeitgeist hispanic literature is not as relevant as American, British, French or even German, but then again neither is Italian literature but you wouldn’t call that niche would you?
For novels you would if it was anything other than Dante. Same with Don Quixote for spanish novels. But it's true Italy is more culturally relevant than latin america.
Who said anything about it sucking? Its just that its irrelevant and therefore obscure. The political influence of latin america is so laughable it doesn't extend to its own borders, so there's not even a raw force influence like with China. There's no soft power cultural exchange like with Japan or Russia. There's no historic link like with Germany or France. Like what do you fricking expect? The most influence comes from illegal immigrants in the US, and they shake their asses and make shitty fast food, not read books.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>There's no soft power cultural exchange like with Japan or Russia.
If you're American, there is. If you're English, probably not. >There's no historic link like with Germany or France.
There is, if you're American. Unless you haven't read history. >not read books.
Vast majority of people don't read books. Readers are few. A Hispanic reader is more well-read than your average American or European, and vice versa.
Gongora was known for his extremely difficult and obscure style, it’s the height of the baroque in literature, so I doubt it will help you learn any Spanish at all since even Spanish speakers can’t easily understand it.
Is there a ernest Hemingway for Spanish. Because I speak Spanish but I couldn't get past te first paragraph of don Quixote. Is there someone who uses more simple words but its still a quality good book
Try Chronicle of a Death Foretold
Spanish is also my second language and I could get through that, Quixote is written in old Spanish so it's hard to understand if you're not fluent. There are "modernized" versions of it though, and some translations are pretty good
Eh, DQ is early modern Spanish, kind of like the equivalent of 1600s English writers like Shakespeare or whatever. Old Spanish is more like El cantar del Mio Cid, which is like the equivalent to Beowulf. DQ is readable if you adjust certain aspects. Modernized versions are for high school students and the like, kind of like the "No Fear Shakespeare" series.
I know this thread didn't start out as a spanish lit thread but since it turned into one I want to recommend "Verses on the death of Don Rodrigo Manrique, his Father"
Super cozy and intriguing poem about the fleeting nature of life.
Anglos hate Hispanics so of course Hispanic lit is never discussed.
This is ridiculous, stop having a victim mentality.
As an anglo, no one hates Hispanics, we just live in a time where the US (an extension of the UK) is the dominant world power in a very connected and homogenized world and therefore so is English.
In the times of the Roman Empire did people complain because "Latins hate our writing so Greek literature is never discussed"?
No. In the future a new Empire will rise, and its books will then take priority over English ones, but not because of hate.
It's not about language. It's about ethnicity and culture. There is a contempt and sometimes blatant hatred on the part of some IQfyizens. Of course not the cultured ones such as yourself but there are users who very much hate Hispanic culture (in this case literature) for /misc/-related reasons. But whatever.
>This is ridiculous, stop having a victim mentality.
Ok, im going to be shutting up,then already, just because you say so, mr Anglo.
It's ironic, that you say that what he's saying is ridiculous, while proving he's point since the first paragraph.
wrong. anglos hate hispanics because theyre incompetent, cant control their minorities, and resulted in the mestizo abominations that threaten our borders.
i am cultured and read don quixote in castilian and in various translations, but that only gives me more reason to hate hispanics for sinking so low.
what the frick are you even talking about? not even anglos can control their own
the usa and latam existed for roughly the same amount of time, yet latam is majority mestizo while the usa is majority white, and USAs white women overwhelmingly marry white even while constantly being bombarded with racemixing propaganda. think about that.
Mixing in the US is at higher levels than in the past. It was unthinkable to see a white woman with a black man on the street in the 60s, now it's accepted and more common than before. I don't know why you think things can change overnight, even considering blacks are a much smaller and poorer population.
please tell everyone how mixing benefits the usa. it mixes a population of blacks with an average 80 iq with whites who average 100 iq.
blacks are less moral. they dont have the integrity to support their mates and children. 70% of black mothers are unwed.
blacks even with affirmative action cannot compete in the same job market. being average 80 iq prevents them from access to the best jobs, and because they breed more children than they can support, they become tempted by crime and gangs to gain money, which makes the quality of life worse for everyone around them.
white women understand this, and the ones who ignore the warning signs usually become single mothers themselves, with 90 iq mulatto children who hate themselves because their black half marks them as too violent and irresponsible for real white society, which they desperately aspire to.
I never said it was beneficial or not. I'm telling you it's more common than in the past.
are you only capable of pointing out the obvious? mulatto behavior.
You seem to be part of an imaginary schizo discussion. Good luck.
you dont add anything, just like blacks and mulattos dont. good day to you.
Like added anything of worth other than trite /misc/ talking points.
Like you*
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/iq%20mulatto%20single%20mother/
my talking points arent common, and thats because i dont use pol, and pollacks cant think. if they were trite there should be thousands of posts about the same group of topics like mine.
my talking points were on point unlike most political discussion. i described the topical problem accurately because im high iq.
all that remains to be seen is:
what do you add?
besides stating the obvious.
Generic anti-black hatred, advocacy for white supremacy, fear of mixing are all basic b***h /misc/ talking points. This isn't enlightening and you're delusional for thinking this is something new in online political discussions. Check out rw twitter or /misc/ any day.
my posts are good and better than any political discussion you could offer. all you can do is state the obvious at a 90 iq level.
Old spanish is just latin.
No, it's not. It means something specific.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Spanish
do you think it being more common than the past means it happens a lot? despite all of blackrock's esg propaganda, it is still by far the rarest couple type whereas wm/wf is still by far the most common couple type and people still find it disgusting despite being forced to pretend it's normal. meanwhile it was encouraged and sometimes even mandated by latin american governments
Hate was the wrong word, but Anglos definitely have a poor view of Hispanics. The problem is that Hispanics also have a poor view of Anglos, so a lack of cultural connection is the expected result.
As a traveller hispanics have been far more cultured and well read than Americans, they're also unambitious, so there can be no public evidence of it
I hate hispanics
What a cope. Nobody much cares. But latin america is a peripheral region with no relevant cultural connection. Spain itself was already the black sheep of western europe with its overly catholic moronation, and when you combine that with amerindians the resulting culture is going to be hyper-niche.
Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature.
See what I mean? A raging contempt of delusional proportions.
If you consider not noticing or caring about something to be the same as contempt you're a delusional egomaniac
When someone who's European/American says something like:
>Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature.
It's obviously coming from a place of contempt due to how dishonest it is.
It's accurate though. You don't matter.
>Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature
This is a really bad exaggeration, hispanic literature has had a much bigger influence than thai literature. How many thai authors are universally famous, how many of them have won nobel prizes? It’s true that to the current zeitgeist hispanic literature is not as relevant as American, British, French or even German, but then again neither is Italian literature but you wouldn’t call that niche would you?
You're wasting your time with a moron who hates anything Hispanic. See:
For novels you would if it was anything other than Dante. Same with Don Quixote for spanish novels. But it's true Italy is more culturally relevant than latin america.
>Being into hispanic literature is like being into Thai literature.
Thailand is one country. There are twenty one countries that speak spanish.
I am sure that it's because their work all sucks and not that anglos are as culturally oblivious as they're purported to be!
Who said anything about it sucking? Its just that its irrelevant and therefore obscure. The political influence of latin america is so laughable it doesn't extend to its own borders, so there's not even a raw force influence like with China. There's no soft power cultural exchange like with Japan or Russia. There's no historic link like with Germany or France. Like what do you fricking expect? The most influence comes from illegal immigrants in the US, and they shake their asses and make shitty fast food, not read books.
>There's no soft power cultural exchange like with Japan or Russia.
If you're American, there is. If you're English, probably not.
>There's no historic link like with Germany or France.
There is, if you're American. Unless you haven't read history.
>not read books.
Vast majority of people don't read books. Readers are few. A Hispanic reader is more well-read than your average American or European, and vice versa.
We hate Spaniards, but we like literature from Latin America.
Miguel de Cervantes?
I am currently reading la colmena by cela, super cozy tbh. Doña Rosa is pretty cute ngl, I can imagine her vividly.
yea years ago any hispanic lit thread would get shouted down lik
I throw anglo tourists off of their balconies. They do it themselves anyway so noone notices or cares if I do it.
Colmena is based, although I only read it in English. Pic related is my contribution to OP's prompt
44gm8
yeah but what if someone threw you off a balcony, Paco?
That would suck because I am a good person and don't deserve that.
I just don't like Hispanic culture.
I just don't like it. The language doesn't sound good. The culture isn't pleasant. I don't get the appeal.
>The culture isn't pleasant.
Wdym? When I was out of Madrid and Barcelona while working in Spain everyone was pretty nice
I have no comments on Spain so I'll just ammend it to just Hispanic.
They're so terrible I wish I could forget the language
The appeal is literature.
i feel like a good 80% of this site is just utter morons crafting the most horseshit moronic takes to bait as many people as possible into raging
Never heard of it
You're shilling it because that author is paying you for it, aren't you?
He died in the 17th century..
American website
What do Spaniards do all day anyway? Because it sure as hell isn't writing books. Fricking Moroccans or something?
Terrible b8, I r8 2/10, could get some newbie visitor
explain why it's a great read, maybe this will help me learn spanish
Gongora was known for his extremely difficult and obscure style, it’s the height of the baroque in literature, so I doubt it will help you learn any Spanish at all since even Spanish speakers can’t easily understand it.
I was really hoping in this thread people would post books they liked no one discusses, why are you all arguing about Spaniards
looks like my toilet after curry night
Hijacking this thread to ask about Lope de Vega?
Puig used to be relatively famous among angloids, he even wrote a novel in English.
It's very bad..
Post lines or a screenshot of a page so I can determine whether I'm interested or not pls, thanks
Although it somehow made the top 100 list this year but I think that's more due to another anon's constant shilling of Balzac last year.
>suck at everything
>why do they persecute me so?
Is there a ernest Hemingway for Spanish. Because I speak Spanish but I couldn't get past te first paragraph of don Quixote. Is there someone who uses more simple words but its still a quality good book
Try Chronicle of a Death Foretold
Spanish is also my second language and I could get through that, Quixote is written in old Spanish so it's hard to understand if you're not fluent. There are "modernized" versions of it though, and some translations are pretty good
Eh, DQ is early modern Spanish, kind of like the equivalent of 1600s English writers like Shakespeare or whatever. Old Spanish is more like El cantar del Mio Cid, which is like the equivalent to Beowulf. DQ is readable if you adjust certain aspects. Modernized versions are for high school students and the like, kind of like the "No Fear Shakespeare" series.
The equivalent of Beowulf is latin literature, Cid is more equivalent to Chaucer.
Borges uses fairly simple language.
I know this thread didn't start out as a spanish lit thread but since it turned into one I want to recommend "Verses on the death of Don Rodrigo Manrique, his Father"
Super cozy and intriguing poem about the fleeting nature of life.
indapandansia escolta noi
jambon andsoforth
>popularity isnt a superficial metric
im getting really tired of hispanics voicing how stupid they are
Wish you gays talked less and posted more overlooked (spanish) lit