that you can't get paid for working on because finland israelites say it's illegal
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Did you tried to get paid for it or just made your assumptions because someone on twitter said this?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>someone on twitter
the xz maintainer posted OP on the xz website
you must make an org and get a loicense first (if you get approved) and maintain a whole fricking org (corporate taxes and tons of legal paperwork and reports) now otherwise it's illegal to make money off your effort
this makes sense to you? imposing all this legal bullshit on a fricking developer who does this as a hobby in his spare time? whose work is used by pretty much the whole internet?
>someone on twitter
the xz maintainer posted OP on the xz website
you must make an org and get a loicense first (if you get approved) and maintain a whole fricking org (corporate taxes and tons of legal paperwork and reports) now otherwise it's illegal to make money off your effort
this makes sense to you? imposing all this legal bullshit on a fricking developer who does this as a hobby in his spare time? whose work is used by pretty much the whole internet?
>if you maintain the backbone of the whole internet you deserve no money because you have no prooooduct or sooorvice to consooooom
>Backbone of the entire internet
where tf are you getting this shit? It's literally less popular than 7zip, p7zip, and liblzma. It just got of picked up for convenience in Debian and from there spread through the linux sphere, but it's nowhere near essential to anything web.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
xz is widely popular, but regardless, same issue applies to any open source project developer wanting to receive donations
>The Finnish law doesn’t allow a private person to request money from the general public and give nothing in return. Certain types of organizations can ask for donations but to do that even they need to get a permit first.
what the frick?
Autists lack skills to monetize their skills. If he is drawing unemployed benefits, I could be evil and report him for working even he does not see a dime. You see, work is work.
>"Jia Tan" is known to have used a Singaporean VPN at Libera Chat. There
is little reason to expect that Git server logs would show other
addresses. Connecting to a VPN and changing timezone are different
actions, and network policies could easily have been set up to block
direct access to GitHub to avoid leaks there.
> [...] > > In any of those cases, the timezone is useful information, I think, and > shouldn't be discarded easily. >
The problem is that we have no reason to believe that any of those cases
are so. While +0200/+0300 does include a country that I believe to be a
likely suspect, the fact remains that timezones can be trivially faked
and the "working hours" pattern suggests that /most/ of the day-to-day
work of maintaining the sockpuppet was done in another country, one
where the perpetrator /might/ actually face justice.
I think KRP will soon have a call to tukaani people
>give nothing in return >gives his time and effort maintaining software
You mean, your work you give doesn't count? Does support in Finlandia work for free?
I'm I misunderstanding law or are you guys moronic
I trust you're Finnlandia law expert.
Can't believe this is only way.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
"In contribute to, FOSS. Pay my coffee plox".
This is same as you would cover yourself in rags and go street begging. It's not legal. They tried to fundaraiser for a guy whose hotel burned in lapland. They did not ask permit so the fundraiser must be closed.
Making a foundation must be few paperworks away.too much for ADHD script kiddies I see. Even three people would be enough, then you wouldn't even need a foundation, just the money collection permit.
The permit would be really easy. " This group will assist humanity to tackle open source program problems". Small donations are asked.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Making a foundation must be few paperworks away.too much for ADHD script kiddies I see.
More like 2 person away, since it needs at least 3 people to start one.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lurking his site, he has like ten finnish people names there.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>3 people >me, my mom, my dad
Wow, so hard
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah if you don't mind legally involving family or friends in your online money making scheme they have nothing to do with
It is also made practically impossible to try to start a business that targets private online customers while unemployed in Finland. You will lose the right to unemployment benefit after 4 months, whether successful or not.
You never lose social security tho. If you really have a good kickstarter, try it. And daily reminder that corporations and foundations is not you personally.
Yes, but then you need to make the decision to fully aim for entrepreneurship. It's not really possible to have something on the side to first see if it can actually generate any revenue and start to take off.
Sounds good to me. If you have no service or a product, you deserve no money.
>if you maintain the backbone of the whole internet you deserve no money because you have no prooooduct or sooorvice to consooooom
Who exactly maintains backbone of the whole internet?
>who uses xz
Here's your product/service.
that you can't get paid for working on because finland israelites say it's illegal
Did you tried to get paid for it or just made your assumptions because someone on twitter said this?
>someone on twitter
the xz maintainer posted OP on the xz website
you must make an org and get a loicense first (if you get approved) and maintain a whole fricking org (corporate taxes and tons of legal paperwork and reports) now otherwise it's illegal to make money off your effort
this makes sense to you? imposing all this legal bullshit on a fricking developer who does this as a hobby in his spare time? whose work is used by pretty much the whole internet?
https://poliisi.fi/en/money-collections
dumb moron
>nooooo!!! You don't understand! Law says so!
>Backbone of the entire internet
where tf are you getting this shit? It's literally less popular than 7zip, p7zip, and liblzma. It just got of picked up for convenience in Debian and from there spread through the linux sphere, but it's nowhere near essential to anything web.
xz is widely popular, but regardless, same issue applies to any open source project developer wanting to receive donations
liblzma is literally part of xz-utils moron
>and liblzma
Turbo Black person homosexual
yep they do it for free so its not my problem, open source developers have a cuck fetish
And what if you maintain a service or product that is free? This makes it impossible to ask for voluntary donations to cover your costs.
>does something for free
>wants donations
???
Maybe you should get a job first? NEETs are so stupid
It's to better organize soliciting money from the public
https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/alkup/2019/20190863
>alkup
Shit. Meant https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/2019/20190863
>The Finnish law doesn’t allow a private person to request money from the general public and give nothing in return. Certain types of organizations can ask for donations but to do that even they need to get a permit first.
what the frick?
It's trying to prevent scams and such
Is the chink malware writer asking for donation? I don't get it.
It's the original dev asking for donations. Donations for private persons can be annoying to organize under Finnish law.
I hate my c**try.
Even Kickstarter is illegal here.
Oh noes! Not the kicksharter!!!
Finnish academics are making kickstarterd and spinoffs all the time. Maybe the layman IT morons are just too stupid to monetize.
The law is moronic in 2024
>need loicense for donations
Shit like this is why Putin has to liberate you euro-dipshits.
that's a little too zased homie!
Finns do it for free
Isn't that just an anti beggar law? we need that here
I can add my name if you need three persons. I have some coding background as well.
I don't know why Finland is israeli for having limits on who can beg and scam money
>beg and scam
this guy got tons of emails asking for ways to send him money as gratitude/support for his efforts
I'm talking about why the law is you tard. This guy isn't the problem
How is that calculated?
All nordic countries have moronic laws like that
Plus you always lose 60% or more of your income to taxes
This is the fundamental problem of open sores. That guy probably created millions if not billions of dollars in value. But he won't see a cent of it
donations work in free countries
sounds more like a fundamental finnish problem
Wallet address -> start DAO with donation proceeds -> pay himself out of the DAO funds
Autists lack skills to monetize their skills. If he is drawing unemployed benefits, I could be evil and report him for working even he does not see a dime. You see, work is work.
Daily reminder that Jia Tan used gmt+2 timezone. That is the finnish timezone (also israels). Something fishy!!!!!!!!
Daily reminder that used bj+1 timezone. That is the blowjob timezone (also bussyjob timezone). Something fricky!!!!!!!!
What the hell does "using a timezone" mean?
https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/04/12/4
>office hours
>he must be from here since of course you'd be up at certain hours
Kek. Fricking morons
I guess the judge could decide that for you. If you have nothing to do with, your knowledge of this "Jia Tan" could help interpol.
Wat
Jia Tan is actually Jani T
4am at china. But 22.00 at finland
how did they donate for Uki drones then?
it says "private person" you fricking subhuman. go back
what made you so upset? And my question stands I don't have a goldfish memory I can remember what people asked for.
Only moronic normies donate money to strangers
>"Jia Tan" is known to have used a Singaporean VPN at Libera Chat. There
is little reason to expect that Git server logs would show other
addresses. Connecting to a VPN and changing timezone are different
actions, and network policies could easily have been set up to block
direct access to GitHub to avoid leaks there.
> [...]
>
> In any of those cases, the timezone is useful information, I think, and
> shouldn't be discarded easily.
>
The problem is that we have no reason to believe that any of those cases
are so. While +0200/+0300 does include a country that I believe to be a
likely suspect, the fact remains that timezones can be trivially faked
and the "working hours" pattern suggests that /most/ of the day-to-day
work of maintaining the sockpuppet was done in another country, one
where the perpetrator /might/ actually face justice.
I think KRP will soon have a call to tukaani people
>give nothing in return
>gives his time and effort maintaining software
You mean, your work you give doesn't count? Does support in Finlandia work for free?
I'm I misunderstanding law or are you guys moronic
You should then sell it. It is that simple. Like $250/hour IT support
There are no laws about maintaining FOSS? I don't believe there are no exceptions.
Make a foundation
I trust you're Finnlandia law expert.
Can't believe this is only way.
"In contribute to, FOSS. Pay my coffee plox".
This is same as you would cover yourself in rags and go street begging. It's not legal. They tried to fundaraiser for a guy whose hotel burned in lapland. They did not ask permit so the fundraiser must be closed.
Making a foundation must be few paperworks away.too much for ADHD script kiddies I see. Even three people would be enough, then you wouldn't even need a foundation, just the money collection permit.
The permit would be really easy. " This group will assist humanity to tackle open source program problems". Small donations are asked.
>Making a foundation must be few paperworks away.too much for ADHD script kiddies I see.
More like 2 person away, since it needs at least 3 people to start one.
Lurking his site, he has like ten finnish people names there.
>3 people
>me, my mom, my dad
Wow, so hard
Yeah if you don't mind legally involving family or friends in your online money making scheme they have nothing to do with
The law is pretty outdated. It was made before the ubiquitous donate links on websites. It was made for organizations and such.
Or something like the Tukaani Foundation
OnlyFans donations are allowed though.
You're buying a subscription in that case, not donating.
The finnish IRS is now collecting hoes unpaid millions. Should have paid the toll 🙂
It is also made practically impossible to try to start a business that targets private online customers while unemployed in Finland. You will lose the right to unemployment benefit after 4 months, whether successful or not.
You never lose social security tho. If you really have a good kickstarter, try it. And daily reminder that corporations and foundations is not you personally.
Yes, but then you need to make the decision to fully aim for entrepreneurship. It's not really possible to have something on the side to first see if it can actually generate any revenue and start to take off.
The F in FOSS is for FREE. As in, 'Code jannies do it for free.'
Free as in freedom, not as in beer
Cope
I'm just saying what the free in it is supoosed to mean