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What writing instruments does IQfy use?
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Fountain pens are outdated meme trash.
>when you haven't told anyone that you are a pleb in 5 minutes...
t. consoomer
t. poorgay
correct most of them are
using any round tipped or non flexible nib is paying more to do the same job worse.
nah, a good round nib will write smoother than any ballpoint/gel-pen/rollerball
Pens in general are outdated trash. Use your phone homosexuals...
screen tappers will seethe
I was going to say digital devices suck shit for writing but then I remembered zoomers have critically impaired motor and visual-spatial skills from being raised by TVs and iPads, and writing legibly is legitimately time consuming and difficult for the same generation that thinks reading an analog clock is an over the top feat that exists so tryhards can brag about it.
I'm 35 and it's difficult for me to read an analog clock
Fountain pens are exactly like mechanical keyboards.
Completely unnecessary, but pleasant to use.
So modern mechanical keyboards offer absolutely nothing over a cheap semi-nice standard keyboard unless you spend $150 and up on a fricking keyboard and cheap vintage mech keyboards are not only more practical, but better to use?
Because that’s the case with fountain pens. A twsbi or whatever has nothing over a gel pen.
>inb4 muh shinmery sheening inks
t. Has a $20 gold nibbed pilot super from the 60s, can use it on any paper and still get line variation and character
>So modern mechanical keyboards offer absolutely nothing over a cheap semi-nice standard keyboard unless you spend $150 and up on a fricking keyboard and cheap vintage mech keyboards are not only more practical, but better to use?
Maybe not quite $150, ~$100 thereabouts, but you've pretty much got it.
just got a flex nib pen in the mail yesterday, it's taking some getting used to but i think i like it; it's too scratchy for normal writing in my opinion though
Flex nibs make no sense to me. What is the use case? If you want to write copperplate or something, you actually want an oblique nib holder, not a fountain pen. I’m an italic man, for what it’s worth. Saved my handwriting. The unfortunate thing is that there are so few options these days.
honestly I got it to test out flex nib pens and for a project that i'm working on; i would feel weird taking a nib holder and inkwell to work with me, which is where i get a lot of my writing done
Just more line variation in everyday writing if you write in cursive. Also "softer" writing, but some flex nibs take a lot of force so not all of them.
The last thread somebody said the Lamy Safari is cheaper than a Platinum Preppy.
It sure the hell isn't here, a Safari is $40 for the basic model. Must be hella cheap in Europe.
Yeah they didn't know what they were talking about
>Must be hella cheap in Europe
around $17
You can get a Platinum Preppy for $8 on Amazon
It costs less than 5 American dollars in India
You can get a pilot g2 for $1.50.
The fountain pen will be cheaper in the long run
As long as you strike gold on the ideal nib, feed and ink so you can write legibly on all papers and still have permanent ink (the entire point of using a pen). Modern needlepoints are ideal as are jap pigment inks. And expensive. Not cheaper unless you’re writing novels all day.
>fountain pens will be cheaper!
>goes through one thousand dollars of pens, inks, and paper to match the performance of a gel pen
>spends hundreds of dollars of man hours tweaking shit and doing research
>or just deals with fuzzy lines or ink that smears a full minute later
>or just shells out big bucks for a pilotinum namiki 1488 gold edition and $30 bottle of sailor boku no pico
>goes through one thousand dollars of pens, inks, and paper to match the performance of a gel pen
This is bait, do your own research first online and you can pretty much find everything you need without spending a dime first, also you only need 1 pen and 1 bottle of ink
How much have you spent? How long does it take you to empty a cheap gel pen? And whats your perfect pen and ink? Earlier people have admitted to taking years to empty a bottle of fp ink despite fountain pens going through it at a higher rate.
Cope, I've been using average paper and a platinum preppy with blue quink for 3 years now and I've gone through 7 bottles of quink btw
>7 bottles
>3 years
You either waste a lot of ink or you are trying to hard to make a book draft on ink everyday
I am a Physicist and have to write a lot more than the average 26 year old
>Physicist
So it was a lie you hoard japanese chalk and write everything on big ass chalkboards?
I think that's for the Mathematics Professors, I'm a physicist in the more conventional sense, not a uni prof or some shit
Yikes
oof
looks like watercolor
use a man's ink
Fricking autism.
Only real test: can you write something with it. Yes? It's good. No? It's shit.
Lmao cope. A pilot g2 does better.
Another autism take.
Just grab the nearest pen and start writing the shit instead of wasting everyone's time and money.
I will in fact grab a pilot g2, the nearest, most functional, cost effective pen, rather than mail ordering reddit pens.
based
>when you close the book ten seconds too early or someone spills their drink so you lose all your valuable physics notes
>meanwhile a gel pen user is immune to this and spends less per a page of text
And someone with 1:1 (or greater) diluted noodlers black is sitting similarly pretty and paid $12 for 6oz of ink.
Mate I've been in this profession for 5 years now. I'm not a moron that writes my actual presentable illustrations and docs in a non-archivable and non-waterproof pen. I have a Pencil/ Uniball 207 for that. I just use a Platinum Preppy for notes that only I'm going to read and can afford to lose.
>Mate I've been in this profession for 5 years now.
LARPing on 4chinz doesn't count. M8.
>I use regular pens I just ordered a reddit pen because I did ok
finish taking the gelpill
>someone spills their drink so you lose all your valuable physics notes
Writing near humans, that's your first problem.
>meanwhile a gel pen user is immune to this and spends less per a page of text
Since when, in time, did becoming the greater peasant amount to a boastable feat?
>Since when, in time, did becoming the greater peasant amount to a boastable feat?
Since the founding of AMERICA when we rejected all that euro-peon aristocratic homosexualry. Swiss royalty don't do shit but get paid to exist, here in the U.S. of A. we know the value of a days work and don't waste our hard earned cash on bullshit when you can do the same thing for less.
funny you should post a president. despite fountain pens being at their most usable when they are not carried around and are sure to be used on the correct paper, every paper signed in the whitehouse since ballpoints were invented was signed with a ballpoint.
This is a blatant lie
They've been rollerballs since reagan.
False.
Starting with Clinton they used rollerball bodies with felt-tip cartridges.
Sounds like Communism tbh.
Only applied to the social-sphere and not economical-sphere.
No, it's christianity.
Communism = You will not buy or own any pens. That is wasteful, stupid, and immoral. When you need one, it will be provided to you.
Capitalism = And if you call within the next 20 minutes you, yes you can buy 144, yes, one hundred and fourty four, pilot G2s for the low low price of four payments of 30.99 with FREE SHIPPING! Call now, 1-800-PEN-GOOD!
$0.86/pen for G2? That's a pretty good deal senpai, best I found on Amazon was $1.37/pen.
https://www.amazon.com/PIL84065-Pilot-Premium-Retractable-Gel/dp/B00OCPFPK4
>it's christianity.
'Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. /Honour the king/'.
- 1 Peter 2:17
>You will not buy or own any pens
That's why I said: 'Only applied to the social-sphere and not economical-sphere'.
Socially, in America, everybody is 'born equal'. The same, of course, would happen in a Communist utopia.
'Bolshevism allegedly makes a classless society its aim. The equality of whatever bears a human form, which democracy applied only to political and social life
The opposition between the democratic and the Bolshevist mentality and conception of the State are in the last resort merely theoretical'.
God encourages frugality and charity.
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal…” (Matthew 6:19)
“If riches increase, do not set your heart on them.” (Psalms 62:10)
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
Without capitalism, you can not build the wealth to be charitable. Everyone suffers. But if you are greedy and revel in lavishness and luxury, you have wasted everyones time. As the world suffers you play with your shiny toys.
>but that's communism and communism is bad because it is ok, muh satanic warlords who worship moloch said so!
No, frugality is not communism and charity is not communism. Every good christian to date has been both a capitalist and a charitable man. Missionaries could not exist without the funds of capitalism. Capitalism is not about living the most lavish lifestyle possible.
modesty is not communism. you can still earn and own property without being a vain bastard who "needs" the most luxurious and yet less functional pen.
i imagine a communist state would force fountain pen usage to maintain the cultural distinctiveness of the party (actually to save raw materials, because commies are always destitute and on the verge of economic collapse) and try and appear classier than disposable rollerball and marker pen using capitalists.
>you can still earn and own property
What part of:
>Only applied to the social-sphere and not economical-sphere.
do you not understand?
>i imagine a communist state would force fountain pen usage
You sure like to assume very stupid things, just to suit your agenda.
They most likely used dip pens rather than fountain pens because dip pens are the most economical. Or even just pencils.
>to maintain the cultural distinctiveness of the party
Culture is a division.
>and try and appear classier
Oh yes, the classless-society Communists want to appear classy.
You really need to shut the frick up. I would say read a book before speaking but I know you won't read a book.
>Culture is a division.
explain why commies try so hard to be distinct from western adversaries?
>bbbut not real communism
>communists want to appear classy?
yes, they do, they are obsessed with holding regal looking parades and state meetings while behind the curtains their people are starving.
>bbbut not real communism
Let me say it again, frugality is not communism. Lavishness is sin. Capitalism is good, but hoarding needlessly and luxury goods are a step too far towards the materialists claws of satan. A good christian is interested in being cost effective so the remainder of his wealth may be put towards spreading the word of god and uplifting the dejected pagans of the world.
True. You're not meant to give everything away, stop making money, and live like a pauper (so you would permanently lose the means to be charitable) but you are expected to avoid becoming obsessed and spergy over acts of excess and using them to feed your ego. If you are given a $500 pen be grateful, if you see a $500 pen in the store, look away if you have no need of it.
>You're not meant to give everything away, stop making money, and live like a pauper
Yes you are. You sound like you know only American Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galgano_Guidotti
'A voice then told him to renounce all material things, to which Galgano replied that it would be as hard as splitting a rock. To prove his point, Galgano drew his sword and plunged it into the rocky ground. To his surprise, the rock yielded like butter and the blade went through. Galgano got the message, and took up permanent residence on that hill as a humble hermit. He never left the hill, living in poverty, accompanied by wild animals and occasionally visited by villagers and monks'.
>explain why commies try so hard to be distinct from western adversaries?
Why would they not?
>thrift is not communism
tidied that up for you.
Starts at 16€ here
Converting that to AUD shows me around $25 so, yeah, definitely cheaper in Europe.
I guess shipping it all the way from Europe to here would raise the cost.
Inversely, the Japanese pens are a bit cheaper since I can get a Platinum Preppy for $8.
Although the Pilot Metropolitan is still more expensive, at $45, for some bloody reason. I hear yanks can get it for $15.
>that apple logo in the background
No other good answer
>Dumps a litre of ink on and through your paper, through your lab coat, on your shirt and into your desk
No
0.5 gay here, anything else feels either weak or too obtuse to be functional, might as well use a regular pencil, also Japanese tech is mind blowing, I still dont know how they perfected that anti crush system they use so if you install two rods they dont get pushed or broken
What pen do you use?
>What writing instruments does IQfy use?
Whatever writing thing finds it's way into my hands.
It could be one of the many free pens from work, a permanent marker, a paint marker, pencil, stick with blood, highlighter etc.
recently lost a muji ballpoint pen with the clicky top button thing that i loved dearly which i stole from a friend. It seemed good but is there something similar thats better or should i just get the same pen
Didn't your friend buy another one?
Just got more lead for my silver plated 1.18mm pencil.
My current lineup
you post this autistic lineup every thread
Correct, it hasn't changed, but I'll definitely take a new picture if it does
bump
Pens arent technology. Art supplies are /ic/, luxury goods are IQfy.
pens ARE technology, only a small percentage of people use pens for art, and I don't see how they could be considered luxury goods except for a very select few, but either way keep coping
>rope is technology
>rocks are technology
>i got banned from r/fountainpens for saying noodlers was based and need somewhere to go
k
Wrong board
>>>/ic/
maybe you should just learn to filter things you don't like instead of spazing out, I'm sure you post in every eceleb thread about how it's "not technology" right?
>i got banned from r/fountainpens
maybe you should head back
Noodler's is best ink USA BAYBEE
NOW BEING 1984'D
I personally use flex nibs because while I'm writing the many signatures I have to place I always make sure my signature is very distinct and consistent. I went to a nib meister to get a lamy ef to an ultra flex smooth writer.
If I can only have a deathnote and eat it too :^)
Best sketch pens of all time.
>Best pens of all time.
ftfy
Technology is the continually developing result of accumulated knowledge and application in all techniques, skills, methods, and processes used in industrial production and scientific research.
Pens are not only vital to industry and science, they are also the result of science and industrial production. They were actively developed by humans for centuries. Industry could not exist without pens, pens in their current form could not exist without industry.
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>Be walking down the street
>find a bic on the road
>it has been run over by several cars, the plastic body is destroyed.
>pick up the ink
>bring it home and put it in the body of a wasted bic.
>it writes perfect and smooth.
Now I would like to see you picky homosexuals do the same with your superior pens.
>bic
>it writes smooth
that's how you know it's a larp
limp wrist gang rise up
if you don't have carpal tunnel yet are you really a IQfy native?
I got my carpal tunnel lifting
lmao
CHRIST! It's always "r8 my set-up guiz" with a Pilot G2 or a Fisher Space Bullet. Does anybody here have interesting pens? Jesus, at least BIC crystal guy does SOMETHING different.
This was my post fren
Thank you, for doing that.
Here is a comparison from the original to the ergonomic mesquite pencils.
For my dips I also have travel inkwells
>Thank you, for doing that
Anytime, as stated in the other bred - most of the /ppg/ breds are just snobs virtue signalling about how their pens are better than the next guys.
Yours are the first I've seen that are unique and not simply shilling one brand over another.
ftr my best pen is whatever's closest at hand.
At the end of the day I know a pencil is just a pencil (unless you use those shitty paper mate pencils that feel like wax lead). It never made any kind of sense to brag about having something better than someone else. We all use our tools for different things. Though if the high snobs are bragging they have the best but their writing is ass then idk man. All bark and no bite in my book.
Function and consistency/cost is what I care about. Although the cost of these custom ones did give a slight tug I want to remind everyone that I didn't get these in one go. It's a span of two years!
Just to let the lot of you know that bic pens have the best feeling for line variation and is a literal workhorse. I'm working on a design so that I can have another custom pen using bic.
My lamy safari has gone through hell and back especially while I take hikes at big bear. She's a really keeper but I'm a Bic stan so don't get me wrong.
/edc/ > watchgays > /ppg/
Daily reminder that anything thicker than 003 is BLOAT.
Take the ultrafine liner pill.
Imagine wasting up to 30x (3000%) moar ink to write basically the same thing.
Be a real IQfyentoomen. Embrace minimalism. Reject BLOAT.
I'm not signing my checks or writing lists with that tiny ass nib
my handwriting is bad enough as it is, lines that thin make it look much worse
make it better
just posting this cool video i found
GraphGear 500 my beloved
>he fell for the metal grip meme
Mah homie
rOtring 600 ballpoint pen
Got it for my birthday. Love it, I even continued writing my diary after 2 years. Well I had only written twice in it before that in the last 4 years, not really a diary guy. But with this pen I actually want to write.
The mechanics feel great, satisfying actuation. The writing is very smooth and I can write in my best writing.
However being left handed I got reminded how tiresome writing is. I had flashbacks of my time at college during exams, desperately massaging my wrist so I can continue writing in a legible way. I hook my hand over the line but that gets triring after a while and my wrist starts hurting.
Wstched a lot of videos about writing from under the line for left handed people but no method works. Currently I am trying a hybrid of hooking, proper holding and moving the paper to make it easier. It helps but the wrist still aches after a while.
Of course forgot the picture
>But with this pen I actually want to write.
best part of getting a new pen, the constant desire to just write, even if you don't have anything important to write down.
>he fell for the rotring meme
what is the rotring meme
he doesn’t know himself, just read it somewhere
To be fair I never understood the appeal of rotring. They seem so overpriced considering the features they have. You can get pretty good pens and pencils for a quarter of their price.
graphgear 500 mogs any rotring pencil
agreed
tf is going on in /ppg/ this morning?
Can't we all just talk about cool pens and shiet?
I've just bought some pens, better one is some pilot v-ball grip. I was suprised how well it slides on paper during writing.
I also making my pocket daily notebook. I've glued stack of note-papers? (glue-less post-it note cards) and also I'm planning to glue a envelope to back of it so I could store some small papers safely.
why get a v-ball over a v5?
I've just chose pen randomly.
/ppg/gays
>the hand-mixed ink glides so smoothly out of the precision ground nib over the bespoke pulped paper while I annotate in muh journal it's almost arousing
me
>how many more signatures do you need?
>almost
/ppg/ gays
>i consoomed a lamy 2000 please pay attention to me. no, i won't sign that receipt unless it's printed on rhodia. no reason. smearing? no, no, shut up!
me
>i have a sharpie in my pooper
I have a bottle of India ink and a dip pen. MY SIGNATURE IS MY OWN
>me
>>i have a sharpie in my pooper
breddy much...
I'm a fountain pen gay with over 100 pens but is there not a better place to discuss pens than IQfy?
We should be seeing your daily set up if you have over 1hunnit. I have been wanting a real gaudy pen like the Conklin abalone pen and have a blue fire kaweco pen too.
I mostly use pic-related as my daily driver, found mine at a fleamarket disassembled and caked up with ink, the seller thought it was "broken" so got it for next to nothing. Got home, cleaned it out, put it together and it worked flawlessly.
If I'm in a shady area I use a Montblanc 221 piston filler instead.
i also own over 100 but i don't have the desire to discuss with people since most of the places online are kinda garbage these days.
>Conklin
modern conklins don't write
It's a pen dude, it writes. And with the other pens I got like Moonmans fatty pen all I need is a fine grit sandpaper and it's as smooth as room temp butter.
Sounds like a waste of opportunity if you ask me. I collect but I don't like the idea of something to collect dust. I don't have nearly as much as you but I keep a note of how often I use each pen. Nice steal on the pen tho
I need to satisfy my Autism, that's all
Don't cheat you're way outta this TELL ME WHY YOU DONT USE YOUR SHIT JOHNNY
I highly doubt that given I was gifted a few and they write well. I don't use em cos they don't appeal to the style I go for but I keep em as sentimental bits. Just saying I like what they went for in that abalone pen is all. I'd prob record myself using a gold nib and use an ottoman rose ink with it.
My bog wood is technically the oldest dip holder I have given the wood is 5.6 thousand years old
>it writes
conklins doing anything but write no matter how much nib adjustments is a well documented case. much like how pelikan caps don't stay on.
this is the best place frogposter
Guys, shill me the best italic or cursive italic pen. It’s the only kind of pen I care about anymore, and I’m on a quest to find the italic to end all italics.
What's your oldest pen/pencil?
random plastic mechanical pencil I've had since grade school
a Lamy Safari I've been using day in day out for 6 years since the 2nd year of university
LAMY abc, which they made us buy in elementary school, as well as LAMY Al-Star with I bought after elementary school in class 5
I have several vintage Parkers but I never dated them. I had a P51, one P21 and several 45s. The Parker 45 is probably my favorite pen of all time. I love the shape and how easy it is to swap nibs. And since the markings on the nib are hidden beneath the hood, sometimes you can find gold nibs on ebay for incredible prices from people that don't know what they are selling. It's kinda easy to tell just from the pictures if it is a gold nib. Pic related some of my pens, the one on the left is the gold nib and the right is stainless steel gold-plated.
>I have several vintage Parkers but I never dated them
A quick browse through https://parkerpens.net will give a rough idea.
>It's kinda easy to tell just from the pictures if it is a gold nib
yea on those parkers the easiest way to tell gold plated from gold is just looking at the tipping.
Speaking of which i recently picked up two parker 51's as part of a broken pens lot (Purchased to gambled on two other specific pens and lost). Not a big fan of Parker so they're the only ones i currently own and will probably restore them and sell.
I must admit they feel good in hand tho just not keen on the plastics from that era.
>I must admit they feel good in hand
Yeah, this is what I like the most about them. The 51 and the 45 both have great fit on the hand, perfect size and shape. I have yet to find a modern pen that is as comfortable to hold as them (looking at pictures, the Lamy 2000 seem to be close but I never held one. Also the cap knobs stopped me from ordering one online until I get the chance to manhandle one of these).
>and will probably restore them
This may sound weird but I love restoring my old pens myself. They are really simple and easy to disassembly. I had to replace the sac for my 51 and the shell of my 21. There are plenty of spare parts around and it was really fun to bring these old pens back to life.
>They are really simple and easy to disassembly
yea that's what I've been reading..
At the very least it couldn't be more difficult then the plunge fillers that i normally repair. Opening the packing unit, punching out the rubber gaskets and fiddling with the vacuum is starting to drive me a bit mad.
hopefully the 51 will be a more relaxing experience
parker jotter
i never use it bc it's so damn skinny
LAMY CP1 Black Ballpoint Pen as well as the corresponding mechanical pencil for supreme design and feeling (together ~50€)
I use one of these bad larrys. It was an impulse purchase, but I use it enough to not feel bad about spending like $150 a pen.
forgot image.
bump
whats a nice fountain pen under 30$
platinum preppy
Pilot Kakuno.
is bullet journalling a meme?
best mechanical pencil?
for me, it's BIC
same proven design for over half a century
they will call you troll for telling the truth
sorry, but bics suck no matter how you slice it
BICs are equal to fountain pen. An outdated ink tube thats only good for artists and contrarians. Everyone uses gel pens now. Even free pens are pilot g2s in different housings.
Bic (crystal 1.6mm) pens are great for writing too though. It's the only pen that makes line variation onto paper seem less (suppose if you have control of hand pressure). When I sign I use the skills I have from calligraphy. Personally I don't like using other pens for signing because it gives off a uniform look I don't like in my pens. I feel like those would be more suited for architect handwriting and cubic writers.
>gel pens
they don't last for a week and writing can be a mess.
My BICs shit on your gel pens at anytime
lmao gel pens last months
oh, I see, you barely write shit.
Yeah, gel pens are pretty nice then
for me, it's the wooden pencil
same proven design for over four centuries
Felt like dropping some info on leads for leadholders since the guide is a bit barebones: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki//ppg/_-_Pen_%26_Pencil_General#Leads_for_leadholder
-Staedtler Mars Carbon 200: The same core of the Lumograph wooden pencil series (source: https://www.staedtler.jp/products/pencil/r03.html). Excelent for writing and drawing, while featuring some nice feedback (some may call it scratchy). Available in from 4H to 4B. Also available in red and blue.
-Mitsubishi Uni lead: Couldn't find confirmation but it seems like the same core of the regular Mitsubishi Uni pencil. Feels smoother and run a darker when compared to a Staedtler of the same lead hardness. Available from 4H to 4B. Also available in red.
Did you add them?
Couldn't find an edit buttom.
Ok, maybe the anon(s) who worked on this wiki can add that.
added, Thanks a lot
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For me, it's the Parker Jotter. Fully stainless steel, unpretentious and timeless design, plus it fits a Fisher Space Cartridge with no mods. Simple as that.
>fits a Fisher Space Cartridge
Thanks for the tip, I did not know this. I thought the jotter was ok, but now it’s great.
The Fisher carts come with a small plastic adapter to use with G2 pens. It's a game changer.
with a 4H lead
machined bic
>he doesn’t know himself, just read it somewhere
0.7 2h lead in some nip mechanical pencil ftw