What is the generation of numbers, again? Is it an attempt to explain why there are different quantities of number? What exactly is the metaphysical process behind it? Does it imply that numbers are real?
Plato's Generation of Number(s)
What is the generation of numbers, again? Is it an attempt to explain why there are different quantities of number? What exactly is the metaphysical process behind it? Does it imply that numbers are real?
Like, a random number generator?
As the One is the highest, every instantiation will be also a unity in the least form of manifestation. Then the process of One becoming Two and Three, is the process of multiplication of Forms and instances. The One is One. But by being and One it means it is a Dyad, etc. But it is and it isn't, so the One is above the dyadic relation that constrains into the dialectical form of identity and difference.
How many levels is necessary for a full understanding of the generation of numbers? One? Two? Three? Also, how did you develop your understanding of the generation of numbers?
Read the Parmenides (second half especially) and about the agrapha dogmata (Tübingen School). I’m sure you’ll know where to go next.
>read Plato's most gibberish dialogue and then read some speculative bs after that
op don't do this, he's wasting your time when he could have answered your question
>One becoming two and three, is the process of multiplication of forms and instances.
Did he have a copy of the daodejing, lol
道生一,一生二,二生三,三生万物
Anyway, is there a particular dialogue people draw this from? I remember it being in the pythagorean diss section of Aristotle's metaphysics.
Plato’s Parmenides
People get it primarily from Aristotle, since he seems to speak openly about something you'd have to infer otherwise from the dialogues, and then people piece it together from passages in the Parmenides, Timaeus, Sophist, Statesman, and Philebus.
Yeah, that's what I thought, thanks. I couldn't remember it being stated in numerological terms outside of Aristotle, but I can't pretend to be super into all the dialogues.
but why three? why not four?
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I said this already, don't do it. Here's your real rec:
Level 1:Magee, The Story of Philosophy
Level 2: Plato: Euthyphro > Apology > Crito > Phaedo > Meno > Republic
Book I-II Descartes: Meditations
Level 3: Fill in the gaps by learning everyone Magee covered in whatever order you'd like after that.
Level 4 (overlaps with 3): Fill in the gaps Magee did not cover, to whatever extent you want, in whatever order you want.
Level 5: (overlaps with 4): At some point, try to structure the history in your mind semi-chronologically. You should be able, on call, to write competent essays summarizing the ideas of individual philosophers and their connections of influence or reaction to each other. It's at this stage that it matters to read Copleston's history and other secondary and tertiary literature.
Level 6: IF you've made it this far, you should have a complete knowledge of most historical philosophy. But the time it takes to get here if you're dedicated is probably 10 years. I mean I feel I'm in level 5 bordering in 6 but I first took a philosophy class in 2013, majored in 2014, then did a MA, and so far four years of PhD, in philosophy. So that's ten years. But you have a lifetime ahead of you. It's not "over" if you don't do this by age 30, though I'm not 30 yet myself. It's "over" when you die. So if you die at 80, you've got some 50-60 yeears ahead of you.
Go, have fun, stay dedicated, and don't follow memes. BE YOURSELF
wrong thread
LOL why's my Magee post a copypasta now, whatever, I mean I wrote the original version of this post
It's supposed to be ratios of the Large and Small.
the what now? and then there's a mean in there too?
but isn't that a ratio that can be applied everywhere and is thus nowhere? nothing is truly large or small, it's always relative.
This is an extremely esoteric topic that very few Plato scholars have even heard of, let alone have a solid understanding of. You're going to have a hard time finding anybody who gets it on this board.
>t. moronic Plato hobbyist
To give you a serious answer, he actually gives a process of generation of numbers in Parmenides. If I remember correctly it's in the second deduction.
jk, waiting out for one effortpost before letting it slide
generation of numgers
and then it was all downhill from there